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Josi & Milo

Two dogs from the same household, trained in the same program. Each has its own section below, so nothing one dog did is read onto the other.

Angier K9 is a family-owned, play-based Board & Train serving Angier, Raleigh and the Triangle, with three full owner lessons.

Josi

Who Josi is

As the trainers and owner describe her

A dachshund, said many times by trainers, and a littermate of Milo. The Astro trainer calls them twins. He came out short-haired and she came out long-haired.
On film

I love these little dachshunds.

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yep he came out short she came out long-haired

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i actually just had that happen i had uh that little dachshund and she has a twin brother um named milo josie milo

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Tiny, short-legged and long-bodied, with a coat that needs work.
On film

nice slow walking for her because she's not the fastest doggy because she got these little legs

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yeah yeah you can say hi she's headlocking her she's got a long body she's like a hot dog

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Well, her bottom end has just started growing out in the last four months.

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Openly friendly with people. Strangers pick her up and kiss her, and she lets them. In November she is the 'more temperate' of the two dogs.
On film

Hi baby. Good girl Josie. Friendly or no? Oh super friendly. Can I pet? Oh yeah. Josie say hi.

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Some of the two I always found Josie to be the the more temperate temperate.

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that face well everybody loves her initially and then she starts kissing them and they're like

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lovers she's a little bitey bite they love hugs they love hugs

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Her response to pressure she does not understand is to disengage: stand still, freeze, hide or leave. Three different handlers name a version of this. It is the thread that runs through her whole case.
On film

milo's like i'm sitting okay so what she's doing there is she's freezing up a little bit

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of just like because like josie does that to you where she just stands there and it looks like she just doesn't care

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getting caught good girl come on good girl so there she just kind of suppressed and decided she didn't want to come with me

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okay when Josie as an example felt the e collar she ran the opposite direction

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Scent pulls her away. Handlers put that down to breed. In the March stay the opposite problem appears: she and Milo will not leave the trainer at all. Neither handler reconciles the two.
On film

Sometimes on distractions a little bit more even if it's just sniffing stuff for her Her and Milo, they're breeds. They get on the trail of something.

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My goal is that they walk away from me a few times.

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see josie do it too she doesn't go as far most of the time in my experience so far

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Treats do little for her with the March trainer. People and petting do the most. She plays, but not hard: she mouths a rope where Milo pulls on it.
On film

that honestly right now for them the biggest reinforcer for them is to just interact with somebody and get petted

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get Milo to play with me separately like without too much issue but I couldn't get Josie to play with me separately very much

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good so like getting her to play easy right getting josie to play hard hard

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The program, stage by stage

An earlier program

Before November 2025. Date unknown.

The owner says so, the staff greet her in November as a returning dog, and a trainer credits her release word to 'we worked with her on it'. She arrives at the November lesson already wearing an e-collar. Nothing else is known about that program: not its length, its trainer, what it taught or how the collar was introduced.

On film

Long time no see.

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before I sent her to you guys

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November 2025: her brother's lesson, and Josi as the easy one

14-15 November 2025. One lesson, uploaded as three parts. Josi is on camera only in part 3.

The lesson is about Milo, who had reacted to a small dog. Josi appears in the owner's stories in parts 1 and 2: rough play between the siblings that the owner calls normal, an episode in which Josi clamped Milo and he pinned her, and a walk on which Josi barked and went after a child. In part 3 she is fetched from the car. She has a prong fitted above her e-collar and works a stay with the owner, which the owner says is 'about the same'. The trainer says she is responding well to the release. The trainer describes her as the more temperate of the two, and less likely to need the correction Milo got.

On film

You'll probably get a chance to practice it with Josie if she does anything stupid, but she's less likely to do that.

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but he flung Josie and like it stood on top of her and everybody was still

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Would it be okay to grab Josie and see how she does with the pearl?

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December 2025: the down in public, and a collar that was not touching her

In care by 1 December; uploads 1, 3 and 10 December 2025

A staff handler takes Josi into public places: a Sheetz while waiting for an order, and a Home Depot, the latter on the same trip as Milo. The current project, in his own words, is the down. It takes several cues and 'nope' marks per rep, one physical nudge, and he calls it 'doing good'. The heel needs many 'nope's, and twice he asks 'What's going on?' and does not say what she did. Once, during a recall in the store, he asks 'What's wrong?' and picks her up. On a late-night off-leash walk in downtown Angier, a missed recall leads him to turn the collar up. Then he finds the contact points are not touching her, tightens it, turns it back down, and tells the camera why fit matters. She then needs several stimulations, which he says she felt, before she comes. That is the first on-camera sign of the problem the March trainer will call poisoning. In December nobody frames it that way.

On film

how's your hand oh it's doing fine it's a little scratch yeah yeah we've been working with josie on down she's doing good

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What's going on?

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e-collar up just slightly because she did not respond to that. Josie, here. Here. Nope. Either that or it's not making contact. Yep, it's not making contact.

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something it's just a reminder that it's important to make sure that your e-collar is on tight enough for the contact points to make contact because if they don't you can press it on any level you want and the dog feels nothing if it's not touching them

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All right, I know she felt that one.

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The December go-home lesson: hiding as learned escapeTurning point

Uploaded 15, 16 and 19 December 2025. One lesson in three parts, in a public place.

The handover. The trainer corrects Josi's attention-barking at passers-by until, in his words, she is 'done with it'. He tells the owner that a correction she does not care about is not a correction. On recall he says Josi is more likely than Milo to ignore it, and puts the tapped recall at 80 to 90 percent reliable for him. Then the owner describes the problem that defines this stage: at home, asked to sit, Josi walks under a covered chair and hides. The trainer says she has done the same to him under his truck. His diagnosis is about 90 percent learned escape and 10 percent confusion or fear: hiding worked, because the pressure stopped, so it became a habit. His prescription is to turn the pressure up, pull her out and have her finish. If something else is going on, he says, go back to the relationship and play first. In the last part he tells the owner to say 'nope' once, not repeatedly, because Josi will either ignore it or start to worry. And he tells her not to drill downs: drilled, Josi drops 'too fast' because 'she just thinks oh crap', which he takes as a sign of general suppression rather than learning. This is the point at which the two readings of her - stubborn or confused - are first set out, and the trainer chooses 'stubborn, mostly'.

On film

had to do until i saw that she cared right because that's all it is is if if you see she doesn't care well then you didn't correct her

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way, which Josie is more likely to ignore it than Milo is, if they don't start coming

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me and then walked underneath my chair and like it's covered um so you know but she can get under and you can't see her and so it's like i'd give her command and she'd run and go hide under the chair

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Um, so here's the way that I kind of think about that, that scenario most of the time, and it's true of Josie. I happen to know that because of work, uh, is, um, there's two potential problems there and it can be like a kind of hybrid, uh, for her, it's about 90% one thing and about 10% the other thing.

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the only reason that that would turn into a habit is if it worked

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happened with her i don't think it's a lot of like a like a problem i think she has clarity but like in the wrong direction she has clarity that that works

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trying to like when we're demonstrating stuff is then they she starts to go into that mode where she goes into it too fast right because she just thinks oh crap right so don't like drill like a whole bunch of them in a row

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December to March

About mid-December 2025 to about 10 March 2026

The only trace of this period is a line from the March trainer to the owner: something 'that you had happen once', when Josi fled on feeling the e-collar. So at least once at home, the collar produced flight.

On film

it flipped her she's she's flipped her response to it successfully so instead of doing that thing that you had happen once where she fled when she felt the e-collar she just responds to the come

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March 2026, week one: place, and a checkpoint standard she is measured against

About 10-11 March 2026 (watch, uploaded 03-11, the same day as Milo's 'Training Session 1')

A different trainer runs her. He says he did the same session with Milo earlier that day, and states the plan for later days: fix the distinction between sit and down 'again', then recall. The session runs play, then loose-leash walking in named phases, slowed for her legs; at one point she 'suppressed' and he talks her out of it. Then place. First comes a run of short, happy repetitions, to make sure the cot is a place she likes and the release word is good. Then a few small taps of pressure until she is on, with the pressure off the instant she is. Then a 15-minute timed hold in a quiet yard. She breaks once, before the timer starts, and no correction is reported during the 15 minutes. While the timer runs, he explains a document he is writing for the in-care dogs: weekly checkpoints, each of which counts only if it is recorded. By the end of week two a dog must hold place for 15 minutes on a cot in a park beside a walking trail, with people passing with their dogs and no more than one correction; otherwise it is a fail. That is the standard Josi's own record should be measured against. See outcomes.

On film

just like we did with Milo good girl and then and then on another day we'll get started on doing a little bit of the position work again you see where she's at with that we're gonna fix the distinction between the set and the down

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So, the important thing about teaching the place is that you might have a little bit of pressure until they get on and that pressure increases as they know the behavior better and then the pressure must turn off immediately as soon as they're on the place got

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good come on come on please good place so I'm gonna have her stay up there a little bit longer we're gonna see if she can do 15 minutes and see how many mistakes she makes

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or walking out of sight or doing other things like that and then by the end of week two they should be able to do it on a cot at the park next to a walking trail during a time of day where people are walking by with their dogs and the standard is that you can't do more than like one correction during the 15 minutes otherwise it's void

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This is a weekly video checkpoint, so you can't just say, oh, yeah, I did that. It needs to be recorded for it to count, and then I'll review it at the end of every week.

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The backyard session: a helper to leave, and a collar she stops running fromTurning point

Uploaded 15 March 2026 (watch), at the trainer's mother's house by his own later account

The turn in her case. The trainer's problem all month is that both dogs stay glued to him, so there is nothing to recall them from. He refuses to give Josi a formal recall while she has no collar or line on, because he could not enforce it. Then a helper holds each dog in turn, so the dog has somewhere it does not want to leave, and he recalls the dog away from her. He frames both dogs as choosing flight: running from the collar worked, because the pressure stopped and nobody could make them come. The fix he describes is to teach them how to escape the pressure, so they can later avoid it altogether by coming on the word. Josi vocalises on one recall ('you sound like we're torturing you'). On the last recall she comes without any stimulation at all, and the collar comes off. Every later upload refers back to this session. The trainer credits it with most of the recall improvement - 80 percent in one lesson, 60 percent in another.

On film

prong collar Josie what you doing and then very importantly here I'm not doing a formal recall because I don't have a way to obligate her I don't have a long line on her I don't have any collar on her

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is they have to have a clear understanding of how to escape the pressure and get the pleasure

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that leg is so muscular he does have muscly legs otherwise in this case both of them have a tendency they choose flight right so they'll run instead of obeying the command

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come oh that's so dramatic that's so dramatic you sound like we're torturing you

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oh that was so good and josie did not have to feel anything she got she avoided everything

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quickly like to be honest with you probably 80% of the recall improvement that you see now with the two of them came from that one session

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Proofing: the response flips, place holds with cars passing, and a recall away from a person

Outings built around getting the dogs away from the trainer. In a wet dog park Josi wears the only micro educator. For the first reps it turns out to be switched off. At the end the trainer says her response to the collar is now to come, not to run. A play session with no formal recall at all is, by his own account, meant to make them wander off. In a new neighbourhood she holds place on a cot in a parking area while he walks off with Milo to search the truck and cars pass. Christian then makes himself interesting, and she is recalled away from him: 'That's a nice recall ... Dachshunds are trainable.' In the Major session she may be the second dachshund used as a distraction; the audio does not say.

On film

Josie come Josie Josie come Josie come oh I never turned it on

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Josie come come that's a much better response than before to the e-collar her response now instead of to run is to come good girl that's what we need

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We got a few reps in of the recall. call and Josie responded properly to the pressure this time

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there. We're gonna be able to walk away with Milo while Josie's on the place cat.

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Josie has stayed.

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That's a nice recall.

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The owner lessons and the off-leash claim

Uploaded 31 March, 1 April and 2 April 2026 (watch with watch; watch; watch). The order of the last two is uncertain.

Lesson one teaches the owner the trainer's framework, demonstrated mostly on Milo. Josi's turn covers place, the sit-down distinction and the recall. Her sit problem is the December problem under another name: she downs when asked to sit. It has been fixed, he says, by calmly showing her the mistake, because she is plainly trying to comply. He explains her earlier flight as a poisoned collar, probably an accident by one of his trainers. With the owner watching, a tap at about 18 makes Josi speed up and come, and the owner's next call needs no tap. At home, the second lesson tightens both collars a notch, because they were sliding, and teaches a property boundary. Josi stops at the line on her own, then gets one collar correction the trainer says was more than needed, and then actively avoids that spot. He says that making a place aversive is normally wrong and justifies it as life or death. In a busy park, with leashes and lines off and collars on, both dogs are recalled away from the owner, people, kids and a football game. No stimulation on Josi is reported. She does a 'fake sit'. Separately, on 1 April, the trainer tells another client they are 'fully off leash now'.

On film

right because she was downing sometimes when you're asking her to sit right

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because it's just a mistake right um she's obviously trying to comply why did she down

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You'll see it later on the camera. Hopefully but I tapped the collar on like an 18 And she sped up and came to me right so it clarifies it

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yeah so like one thing to remember is i think both of their e-collars they're about one notch too loose okay yeah just because they were sliding around and they're not going to make consistent contact

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but let's see how it goes i'll turn it down a little bit from it was on like a 12.

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Sit. Oh, she is sitting. Okay. Oops. She's not doing her normal sit. She's doing his fake sit.

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she has a twin brother um named milo josie milo they're fully off leash now

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Skills

Recall, and her response to the e-collar

At the startDecember: good on the flexi and long line; off leash, ignored until stimulated, once while the collar was not touching her; 'more likely to ignore it than Milo'. Between the stays: she fled from the collar at least once with the owner. March trainer: when she felt the collar, 'she ran the opposite direction'.
By the endRecalls away from a helper with no stimulation (03-15). Response 'now instead of to run is to come' (03-19). Recalled away from Christian (03-24). A single tap at about 18 speeds her up in front of the owner, and the owner's next call needs none (03-31). Recalls off leash, collar on, in a busy park, with no stimulation reported on her (04-02). Claimed 'fully off leash' to another client (04-01). Never shown recalling with no collar on.
How it was taught

Two stays, two frames. December: say 'here'; if she does not start back, tap the collar and pop the leash together, using the leash for direction. The fault found on camera is fit, not level. March: no formal recall unless it can be enforced. Create something she wants to leave: a helper, Christian, the owner. Cue, give her a chance, then light taps with a line for direction, off the instant she heads in, then cheerlead and let her go back. The explicit aim is escape first, then avoidance. The March trainer checks the collar is on and making contact, and adds informal calls for when he does not want to enforce.

On film

they seem to confused because they normally know like it's about 80 to 90 percent reliable for me right now that I can see that if I tap the e-collar

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This is where the e-collar comes in and she recalls great on the flexi on the long line and she normally recalls perfectly well, but

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right and that can happen when to be very frank with you it's not made clear to the dog what turns it off

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if i go josie come good job and see she avoids the e-collar entirely

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there they go milo josie come yeah beautiful that's good all right

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Down, and the sit it keeps replacing

At the startDecember: the handler's current project, several cues per rep in the stores, at least once finished with a nudge; the trainer says she prefers down to sit.
By the endMarch: a down on the cot after a few collar taps, and a trainer's statement that she is 'doing really great on her duration for everything'. The sit-for-down confusion is said to be fixed, but in the park on 04-02 she still offers a 'fake sit'. Never graded.
How it was taught

December: repeated cue with 'nope' for non-compliance, a leash pop down and forward for the owner, 'nope' once before any pop so that 'down' never comes to mean a pop, and few repetitions spread over an outing. March: for the sit, a calm 'uh-uh, not quite', help into position, pressure off, release. The explicit reason is that her error is a mistake, not a refusal.

On film

how that goes instead down down nope nope down nope nope josie down down down okay good girl

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Okay down we'll work with the down she likes it better down down what

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nope then if they don't then you can start yeah yeah say nope once you don't have to keep saying

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right so i just go uh-uh not quite and then i just help her and she gets into the sit

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I also tapped the e-collar a few times.

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Place

At the startNothing on place is filmed in November or December.
By the endA 15-minute timed hold in a quiet yard (03-11). Holding while cars pass and the handler walks away with Milo (03-24). With the owner (03-31) she still needs help getting on.
How it was taught

Positive first: short, happy repetitions with a quick release to check the release word. Then small taps of pressure until she is on, with the pressure off the instant she is on, so the cot never becomes a bad place. Then duration in low distraction. Then distraction and distance, which the trainer calls more important than duration once 15 minutes is reached.

On film

good, good, good, good. Come on. Come on. Good job, mama. You did good. I'm just making sure that her release word, her release marker is good and that she actually enjoys going

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up. Nope. Place. So one mistake there. Place. Good. No pressure on the play scott.

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the funny thing is that like increasing duration in this setting is like it's fine and all but it's like if they can do 15 minutes they can do an hour right so what's more important is that I increased the other two D's

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And so the video that we did, I did one with Josie and one with Milo. um with a pretty good deal of distractions around um for I think it was like 15 minutes each

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Loose leash and heel

At the startDecember: heel in a store needs many 'nope's and stalls, and she is 'a little sticky on the turn'.
By the endMarch: follows through every turn in a quiet yard; the pulling phase is deferred to the park because she will not pull here. Walks beside the owner when free. No heel work is filmed in March despite the titles.
How it was taught

Named phases: U-turns with a tiny pop when she lags, sporadic changes of direction, then straight walking with pulling punished. Pace slowed for her legs.

On film

girl you did it you did a good job you got a little sticky on the turn there

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good girl come on good girl a plus so she's just following me on all these turns now she's not really trying to get away from me

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So with her, we're going to have to do that at the park because I have a feeling she's just going to walk with me just fine here.

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they just default to walking beside beside you which is or at most like the other thing i noticed is like josie will walk like right here

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Boundaries: the yard line

At the startNot trained. The owner reports that a neighbour's German Shepherd came into the yard and lured one of the dogs away; by the pronoun, Josi.
By the endStops at the line on her own at more than one entry point. After one collar correction she avoids the spot 'actively'. Milo does the road-surface rule; Josi is not shown on it.
How it was taught

A treat thrown over the line as temptation, blocked with body language, a walk back and praise, repeated at three or four entry points. The criterion: she walks on with the handler without needing a release. Then a collar correction at the line, so the rule is attached to the ground and not the handler and holds when nobody is there.

On film

so there's so they have a German Shepherd that dog that's walking around that's the one that came in the yard and lured her that way

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it's right there yeah good girl come on good job she did that one on her own

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they're listening to me i want it to be like a thing where it's like associated with the ground

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Public manners: barking and greeting

At the startBarks for attention and at passing dogs, and the owner says she once went after a child while barking. Greets everyone.
By the endDecember: stops after a correction continued until she 'was done with it'. March: greets strangers in the park calmly; the owner is told to down or heel both dogs when people approach. Nothing shows whether the barking stayed stopped.
How it was taught

Excitement allowed and greetings nearly always permitted; inappropriate expression marked with 'nope' and corrected until the dog shows she cares, then 'okay' and move on.

On film

And the reason that I did a little bit more very great there at the end is because all I wanted was I wanted for

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off leash right she she barks really loud at the dogs that have passed by um but she wasn't trying to like engage them in a negative way which is always him doing that

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just feel like if i can have them like if i see people approaching like go hit them down yeah you can yeah or you can just put them in heel and walk by

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Recall, and her response to the e-collar
Update. Off leash, beside other dogs, with the e-collar worn. The handler says the response to the collar is 'much more active off the leash', which is what he wants. No stimulation on either dog is narrated, and no recall is shown on its own; 'come' is named in the list of what they know.
On film

You know the proper response to the e-collars much more active off the leash

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Down, and the sit it keeps replacing
On film

test a little bit of duration Josie Milo down Josie and all the way down Milo

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Loose leash and heel
Update. Heel is cued off leash here ('Josie Milo heel').
On film

Josie Milo heel good dogs

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From the Shorts

Short clips posted from Josi's training. They are undated, so they sit beside the program rather than inside it.

Off leash with her brother, past other dogs

A handler takes Josi and Milo off leash together and walks them past an area with lots of dogs as a test. He cues both by name to sit, down, heel and 'let's go', and lists what they know: come, heel, sit, down, let's go, 'okay' to release, 'nope' to mean no, and place. He then puts them in a down and walks away to test how long they hold it; Josi needs a second prompt to go all the way down. He ends by saying they do really well and he is very happy.

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On film

They're looking good. I'm just going to test them

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I'm gonna walk by an area with lots of dogs

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Josie Milo heel good dogs so you can see they know come they

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know heel they know sit they know down Josie Milo let's go

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test a little bit of duration Josie Milo down Josie and all the way down Milo

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so I can create some distance and for some duration good job guys and they do really well

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Free time with Milo and Major

Josi and her brother Milo are let loose with another dog in the program, Major. The handler says Josi and Milo are running all around while Major would rather sniff. In two companion clips the same three dogs come out together in the morning and explore a room with a cat tree; there the handler names only Milo and Major.

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On film

josie and milo are running all around i love the way these doctors run

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they are having the time of their lives

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their paws are all wet from the the dew of the grass

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How the method adapted

Most of the adaptations are made for her size, and are shared with Milo. The ones that are hers alone are about the leaving: what to do when she freezes, hides or runs. On that, the two stays adapted in opposite directions.

Hiding was answered with more pressure, not less (December).

The December trainer judged it about 90 percent learned escape: she hid because hiding had ended the pressure before. The only way to reverse that, he said, was for hiding to stop working. He made an explicit exception if something else was going on, in which case relationship and play come first.

On film

i actually turn pressure up when they hide uh from me like that unless there's something else going on but in this case there's not

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right so then i'm gonna uh kind of be like nope nope nope you're not gonna do that that's not gonna work mister or that's not gonna work little girl like that and then i'm gonna like pull them them out of there and then make, make sure they still do it.

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Running was answered with clarity, not pressure (March): a helper to leave, a line for direction, and relief the moment she turned.

The March trainer judged that she did not know what turned the collar off, so she tried fleeing, and fleeing worked. The fix was to make escape obvious and quick, so she could learn to avoid it. His stated limit is 'a little stressful', not 'extremely stressful'.

On film

good good dogs good job guys yeah and so if you teach this very clearly from the beginning it does not have to be extremely stressful just a little stressful

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to the dog what turns it off right and so then they try other things because they have options what are their options to try to turn it off well they could come to you or they could flee or they could freeze and hunker down

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Her wrong position was treated as a mistake, in a quiet voice.

Offering a down for a sit reads, to the March trainer, as trying to comply. So the correction is 'uh-uh, not quite' and help into position, not authority. In December the same default was met with firmer delivery and a 'cracked out' release to lift her out of looking suppressed.

On film

And you notice that like my tone is not like, like really authoritative and like, no, you did the wrong thing.

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Right. Right. But the important part is is making the release command like as as like cracked out as possible.

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No drilling. A few downs spread over an outing, not a run of them.

Drilled, she drops into the down fast out of worry. The December trainer reads that as learning to be suppressed in general, not learning the cue.

On film

just doesn't care um what will happen is if you keep doing keep doing keep doing it then she's going to start to go she's going to start to kind of like freak out a little bit like what's going on

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Equipment and pace scaled to a tiny dog: micro educator, micro or mini prong, slower walking, collar fit checked twice.

Her body. A standard collar's contact points sit too far apart on a dog this small, and a loose collar slides off contact. The December fit failure and the April 'one notch too loose' are the same fault.

On film

gonna i think they thrive on a mini prong collar yeah the mini prong collar fits them a lot better and the micro educator is a lot better for them

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nice slow walking for her because she's not the fastest doggy because she got these little legs

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Never recalled formally when the recall could not be enforced.

An unenforceable 'come' that she ignores teaches her she can ignore it. When she wore nothing she was not called, and informal calls were used whenever the trainer did not intend to follow through.

On film

Josie and I'm just giving her an informal recall there so I don't have to reinforce if she doesn't come because I'm not trying to do a recall rep right now

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Kept away from large dogs, and the owner told to think about the other dog's safety first.

Size. A meeting that would be harmless for a large dog could kill a small one.

On film

know like a situation that um I would encourage you to think more about the other dog yeah and whether or not they're safe for them than the reverse

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I mean, even generally, you got dachshunds, I don't let dachshunds play with large dogs typically.

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Reward chosen from what she actually wanted - people and petting - while play was built in parallel. The owner was told to get her excited in her own way.

She ignored treats, and she would not tug.

On film

the training yeah i can't just be like all right i played with your dogs for four weeks now they know how to play now we have to finish the training

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No, yeah, get her amped up however you can and then play with her.

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What the family was told

When she hides or leaves

i actually turn pressure up when they hide uh from me like that unless there's something else going on but in this case there's not

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where like they're like yeah then i'm like okay we need to like change direction here and try some other things and get you more engaged with me and improve the relationship and play with you

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Corrections have to land

had to do until i saw that she cared right because that's all it is is if if you see she doesn't care well then you didn't correct her

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it most of the time and and for something like this it's just obedience i don't keep saying nope nope nope nope

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The recall and the collar

So all that would mean is that you would say like here, and then if they didn't start coming back to you right away,

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Yeah, just tell her eh eh again. Tell her to come.

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yeah so like one thing to remember is i think both of their e-collars they're about one notch too loose

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Yeah, put it up above the e-collar.

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Place and the release

And come on place good. So then you see how that's negative reinforcement There was pressure, and the pressure went away as soon as she got up there.

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Yeah, and so if they don't get off right away, I normally just encourage them. I'll just cheerlead for them.

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Other dogs, people and children

know like a situation that um I would encourage you to think more about the other dog yeah and whether or not they're safe for them than the reverse

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just feel like if i can have them like if i see people approaching like go hit them down yeah you can yeah or you can just put them in heel and walk by

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Boundaries

so like think of it like this so if you walk that way and they stop and they go and then you walk back and you walk by them and they get up without you saying okay then that means they're seeing that as a border that they're not supposed to cross over

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actively right she doesn't want anything to do with that area um and normally it's like hey we don't want that that's a bad thing you don't want to train dog that way right but in this case it's one of the few cases where it's like no

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Play

No, yeah, get her amped up however you can and then play with her. And then just like ask her for obedience while you guys

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Film your practice

why i like taking videos and i also recommend that

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In the family's own words
The owner's account of Josi at home is the only evidence of the hiding, and she is candid about her own part in it.
On film

under the chair yeah and she would just like man i'm not doing this and then walk away

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like you know reaching out to you like i don't know what she's like zero percent yeah and maybe she wasn't zero percent i was just user error

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She tried to call Josi out of an excited state in public and could not. That was her question at the go-home lesson.
On film

played with them and walked off and i was like okay here josie here they were still in that mode

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then i had to really like correct and she just did not care

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In April her worry about off-leash freedom is not running away but losing sight of a dog this small.
On film

oh there you are they freak me out though when i'm when i have them off leash um not because i'm worried they're going to run off but because they're so small i can't tell where they're at

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At home Josi plays best in her own way, and gives way to Milo over toys.
On film

Um, when Josie even would play at home, um. She's slightly more docile with it.

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play fighting yeah i'll kind of get on my knees and make her noise and she will just come at me

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Outcomes

What the trainers reported

The down was going well in December.

The December handler, to a shopper, Home Depot

On film

how's your hand oh it's doing fine it's a little scratch yeah yeah we've been working with josie on down she's doing good

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The tapped recall was 80 to 90 percent reliable for the trainer, at the December handover - for both dogs, with Josi the more likely of the two to ignore it.

The December go-home trainer

On film

they seem to confused because they normally know like it's about 80 to 90 percent reliable for me right now

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Her response to the collar has flipped from running to coming.

The March trainer, 03-19 and again to the owner on 03-31

On film

Josie come come that's a much better response than before to the e-collar her response now instead of to run is to come

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it flipped her she's she's flipped her response to it successfully

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Most of the recall improvement came from the one backyard session - 80 percent in one telling, 60 percent in another.

The March trainer, 03-31 and 04-01

On film

quickly like to be honest with you probably 80% of the recall improvement

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was done in that session you saw in that in my mom's backyard like that was like probably 60 of the learning for the recall happened like in that session

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Good duration on everything; close to being trusted off leash.

The March trainer, 03-31

On film

doing really great on her duration for everything

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let's go find it yeah but she also is getting pretty close to the point where i'm gonna be okay having her off

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Fully off leash.

The trainer, to another client in the Astro update evaluation, uploaded 2026-04-01

On film

she has a twin brother um named milo josie milo they're fully off leash now and i was off leash with them we were walking around

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They recall about 95 percent of the time without the collar.
On film

of the time even 95% of time without the collar it's just the 5% that I worry

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What the footage shows

A recall away from a helper, completed without any stimulation, after which the collar was taken off.
On film

oh that was so good and josie did not have to feel anything she got she avoided everything

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A 15-minute place hold in a quiet yard, timed, with one break before the timer and none reported during it. Long stretches of the timed hold have no speech, so a silent break cannot be ruled out.
On film

She's been good. She's been up there for five and a half minutes

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A place hold on a cot on pavement while the handler walks away with Milo and a car passes.
On film

A car cometh, a car goeth. Josie has stayed.

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One tap at about 18 speeds up a slow recall in front of the owner; the owner's next call needs none.
On film

now yeah good girl good okay so go ahead and call her okay i didn't have to do it at all

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Recalls with leashes and lines off and collars on, in a busy spring park. No stimulation on Josi is reported. A 'fake sit' near a football game.
On film

there they go milo josie come yeah beautiful that's good all right

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She stops at the yard boundary on her own, at more than one entry point, before the collar is used there.
On film

walk across that whole area good and so you see there she stopped on her own

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How it ended. Josi went home. Josi came out well in the end.

The ideas Josi's case runs on

Milo

Who Milo is

As the trainers describe him

Small, and treated as small in every decision - equipment, leash length, walking pace and which dogs he may meet.
On film

he's he's a little guy so like say you got a big dog like that yeah you might want to you know tell

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make sure there's not any tension on leash because he's just a little guy

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So it's a micro educator. It's made for little tiny doggies

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On normal cues the same trainer says he does not expect Milo to go at a dog.

On film

hard enough for it to be a problem he's got that big dog attitude that's a beautiful dog

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then punish that i don't think he'll do it right to be honest i don't think he'll do it um but it's

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Milo is okay. He makes friends

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Fine with people - said in November, shown in December stores, and repeated in 2026.
On film

i wouldn't let them meet each other yet i'm not sure if he's ready for it he's fine with people

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Oh yeah, he loves the pets.

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lovers she's a little bitey bite they love hugs they love hugs yeah that's

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Somewhat nervous and physically sensitive: 'a little nervous' at the first 2026 session, shaking in a cold store, a panic at a low e-collar level, and 'very dramatic' at another. One speaker calls him fear reactive and is answered with 'A little bit. Maybe.'

On film

little nervous good boy come on so i think i'm just gonna play with him a little bit milo

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You are just shaking.

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I can tell he's fear reactive. Fear reactive? Yeah. A little bit. Maybe.

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low down okay good boy good job very dramatic on this tiny micro educator

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Velcro. In 2026 his defining training problem is that he will not leave the trainer, which makes recall practice impossible until something is found that he wants to leave.
On film

as an opportunity to use a recall on Milo. Because if I was just out here by myself with

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him and we didn't have Josie or Major, he wouldn't go anywhere.

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sometimes gets a little stuck on me when I recall him

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Not food-driven; affection, face contact and later play are what work. Food is refused twice on camera.
On film

Milo here good boy come on yeah yes good good boy and giving him access to my

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that honestly right now for them the biggest reinforcer for them is to just

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interact with somebody and get petted and like jump up on somebody and be like

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Changed by the second period in ways the trainer remarks on unprompted: bigger, and more open on walks.
On film

He grew a foot.

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fortunately I've got him he's opened up a lot on the walks you can see he's got it like a happy

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As his family describe him

The dog who goes after small dogs - Toby at a friend's apartment for 'the whole 20 minutes' - and who, when Josie clamped on him, pinned her and stopped. The owner's accounts are the source of the whole November lesson.
On film

down i was like short leash um hold on to him and he it did not matter where toby went walked

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whatever um he it was like that the whole 20 minutes

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He pinned her and said, don't ever do that again.

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At the go-home lesson: the one of the pair who engages passing dogs negatively; and, at a later meeting with a new dog, the one who reacted, was corrected and then let the dog approach.
On film

to like engage them in a negative way which is always him doing that

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yeah the smaller dog um but this time milo reacted a lot better right well or initially he reacted

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bad but we corrected and then um and then after about like five or ten minutes he let him approach

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In 2026: so small off leash that the owner loses sight of him.
On film

oh there you are they freak me out though when i'm when i have them off leash um not because

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i'm worried they're going to run off but because they're so small i can't tell where they're at

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The program, stage by stage

Before the program: at home with Josie

Up to 2025-11-14.

A dachshund living with an older-trained sister, Josie, a cat and a family. Josie had already been through the company's program; the owner says so in November. By the owner's accounts, Milo pinned Josie when she clamped on him during play, and then went after a small dog, Toby, on a short leash in a friend's apartment for twenty minutes - the first time she had seen it. That incident is the reason for the November lesson.

On film

whatever um he it was like that the whole 20 minutes

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but he flung Josie and like it stood on top of her and everybody was still you know you know

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The behaviour-modification lesson - one visit in three uploadsTurning point

Published 2025-11-14 and 2025-11-15.

The owner's own story of Milo pinning Josie becomes the model: stop, still, release, relationship intact. Part 2 moves to the walk (do not stop for passing dogs; say 'let's go') and to the implied stay the owner asks about, with Milo creeping forward 'red light green light' and taken back to his spot each time. Part 3 brings Josie in, fits her prong, recaps, advises against meeting Toby yet, and sets homework: don't pause for barking dogs, don't repeat commands, film practice on a tripod.

On film

how it goes cuz I kind of want to like have a little bit of pressure I want an

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opportunity for him to kind of react to it

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supposed to nope nope nope no now he stopped yeah yeah okay and so then you

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another choice point and you saw in that choice point he made the right decision right he decided

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start back there and now he's over here it's kind of like red light green light

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i wouldn't let them meet each other yet i'm not sure if he's ready for it he's fine with people

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The correction becomes a teaching video

On film

every dog she sees right so she came up and sold oxen Milo's his name was like

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and then immediately launched trying to try to bite her right so what I do in

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The down, built from zero

Up to 2025-12-10 (dated uploads 2025-12-07 to 2025-12-10; watch and watch placed here by content).

The down is built from zero: first shaped with help and no word, then cued with small pops and 'nope', with a recurring problem - he curves his back and will not flatten - and a handler who says he is not hard on Milo while he is trying. The same day the handler recalls him off leash without the e-collar, saying he would not usually do so. In two stores he walks, heels, downs and is petted by shoppers; his e-collar is too big for him and comes off, and the handler says a Micro Educator would suit him better. Josi is on the same trips.

On film

job good job okay good boy success of approximations we're getting there with

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But he's been putting the front paws down a lot better.

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That's a nice greeting.

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okay down Milo down you go nope down okay it's gotten significantly easier

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on right now but his recall has been really good so far um typically i wouldn't do this but

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good job Milo you know what we're gonna take that off because it's so loose on you

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The December go-home lesson - one visit in three uploadsTurning point

A public place, both dogs, one owner. The owner's worries are excitement, darting, pulling toward people and dogs, and two leashes tangling. The trainer's rule: excitement is fine, inappropriate expression is corrected until the dog visibly cares, then 'okay' and everything is good; he almost always lets people greet. On dogs he turns the owner's worry around: judge the other dog, because these dogs are small; keep the leash slack; if a pushy dog pesters Milo, move it off rather than punish Milo, and punish Milo only if he goes. The owner reports a recent meeting where Milo reacted, was corrected and then let the dog approach. The down is coached on both dogs (pop forward and down, not up; 'nope' once before any pop; a handful of reps spread over an outing), with the trainer letting Milo's not-quite-flat down stand because he is trying. The recall is put at 80 to 90 percent in the trainer's hands. It ends with the discharge paperwork.

On film

had to do until i saw that she cared right because that's all it is is if if you see she doesn't care

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know like a situation that um I would encourage you to think more about the other dog yeah and

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right so um uh with that greeting the most important thing is not to pressurize it

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come on yeah give him some space yeah and that's all that needs to happen if milo goes

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What you don't want to end up having is that down means getting popped

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they seem to confused because they normally know like it's about 80 to 90

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The gap

Mid-December 2025 to early March 2026.

The 2026 footage opens with recall and off-leash work.

Session 1 of the 2026 run

A trainer assesses Milo from scratch in a quiet setting: three loose-leash phases with a longer leash and slower pace for his short legs; a duck toy from home he will not hunt, so running together instead; place introduced with help, on a long line to keep tension off a little dog; and a first duration hold with a 15-minute cap and a stated goal of full relaxation. Milo is 'a little nervous', refuses food, and prefers the trainer's chair to the cot. He sits at about 21 minutes into the file and is released from the chair near the 15-minute mark of the hold.

On film

So he's following me on the u-turns no problem. So that's phase one just the u-turns he passed

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all right well he's not really doing the duck hunting right now so we're just going to do a

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And so what I'm looking for is full relaxation. I'd like to see him actually fully lay down.

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March: the velcro problem and the backyard recall sessionTurning point

Every March session is shaped by one problem: the dogs will not leave the trainer, so there is nothing to recall them from. He lets them roam with other dogs as distraction, makes himself boring, pesters them until they go, walks them on flexis in a new neighbourhood, and substitutes place-cot stays on pavement when they still will not leave. The breakthrough is the backyard session: a helper, Hema, holds Milo in her lap as the spot he does not want to leave. On one recall Milo panics at a level the trainer says was a quarter of what he had taken before; the trainer names it sensitisation, turns the level down further, waits for him to return to baseline so he does not 'turn into velcro', and explains the escape-then-avoid logic and the need for the leash to give direction. The next recall is faster and he is finished for the day 'because he figured it out'. Four days later the trainer says that one session 'clarified things in their head a lot'; a colleague walking Callie hears that Milo's recall is 'getting a lot better'. In the same fortnight Milo is used as a distraction dog for Major and is told to 'be nice'.

On film

good so the important thing is that the lesson i don't want them to get is that they just have to

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So it's a sensitization thing, you know?

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return to normal before i can run another trial like another repetition because i don't want him

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but this is a spot that he does not want to leave which is ideal for this

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we're finished with Milo today because he figured it out he did it because he's

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i think that session just that one session i think it clarified things in their head a lot

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We're going on a walk. Let's go guys! Let's go! My goal is that they walk away from me a few times.

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jesse and milo's recall is getting a lot better

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The 2026-03-31 owner lesson - 'handler skills'Turning point

2026-03-31; published as parts 1 (watch) and 2 (watch).

A long, structured lesson whose stated aim is an owner confident enough not to make mistakes. Micro educator and micro prongs, a light 50-foot line, the four behavioural levers, markers ('nope' as punishment, 'ah-ah' as a prompt), and the rule 'always verbal first'. Then Milo in a busy park: threshold manners, a loose-leash warm-up he passes easily, and recall on a long line, with the rule that only 'come' is the recall word and that you do not recall from every distraction or you get a velcro dog. The trainer says Milo's recall 'looks a lot more reliable' and that he is very close to trusting him off the line. With the owner cueing, Milo's down 'looks a lot better'; the trainer explains he counts Milo's lowest squat as a sit and is weighing whether a flatter down is worth pursuing. Part 2 is Josi's, and records only an anecdote about Milo: a perfect recall rep accidentally punished when Christian stepped on the line.

On film

good yeah because see that's not a recall right that's not a recall what you just did right

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and then recall them away from them but i try not to recall them away from every distraction

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so that's starting to get to the point where I'm I'm really close right now to

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into the down and it looks a little milo-ish like how much do i care i don't know like um

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that looks a lot better actually that looks like what i want yeah that's a nice down

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yeah and and he was less likely to do after that and then he left major alone

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one of the videos recently where christian accidentally stepped on it when i had recalled

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Off-leash proofing with the owner

2026-04-02.

'Off leash' here means leashes and lines removed one dog at a time while both micro educators stay on; the trainer checks Milo's collar works before taking his line off. In a spring park with people, children and a football game, Milo recalls away from the owner, from kids running and from the football without the collar. Once he looks back at 'come' and turns away; the trainer taps at 25 - 'a little Yelp and then he ran back' - calls that the response he wants, and asks the owner to rewatch the moment. He also gives her the radius idea: she can decide how far they range, by voice, backed by the collar.

On film

So Milo's off now.

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see it yeah and I didn't have to use e-collar for it oh there he goes

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okay yeah so he recalled off the football

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but he was like this and then turned his head back he heard me right so then I

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on 25 right and that's why you got a little Yelp and then he ran back right

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Private Lesson #2 at home: borders and the road

Undated; after 2026-03-31. Order relative to 2026-04-02 unsettled.

At the family's house the trainer tightens both collars a notch and teaches the yard border with Milo first: throw a treat across the line, block, walk back, praise, until he stops on his own and walks off without a release. Then, stated as an exception to normal practice, the e-collar is used so the ground itself becomes the thing to avoid, because leaving the property is life or death. At the front, where the dogs must cross the drive to walk, a different rule: no road-like surface without 'okay', for life, while taking care that Milo still fetches treats elsewhere so he does not learn the wrong lesson. The owner takes Milo on the road rule at the end with the collar at 20.

On film

figuring out like oh like even if there's something i want over there i don't go over there

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did you see he was like he stopped on his own so let's see if he did it again come on buddy let's

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they're listening to me i want it to be like a thing where it's like associated with the ground

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go get it go go go right because what i don't want him to learn is don't go get the treats that he

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but that's okay that's kind of the point is they need to wait and get permission

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Skills

Behaviour around other dogs (the presenting problem)

At the startBy the owner's account, a sustained reaction to a small dog, Toby, and a pin of Josie when she hurt him.
By the endNot settled. Toby is never re-met on camera.
How it was taught

A deliberately arranged meeting with a neutral helper dog, a correction ('nope' and prong pops) continued until he stops and is still, then warmth, decompression and a fresh unforced meeting as the test. Afterwards, management of size risk (no big dogs, judge the other dog, slack leash, move a pesky dog off) rather than further correction of Milo, and habituation walks with other dogs in 2026.

On film

Nope! Nope! Nope!

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another choice point and you saw in that choice point he made the right decision right he decided

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Milo is okay. He makes friends

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bad but we corrected and then um and then after about like five or ten minutes he let him approach

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yeah and and he was less likely to do after that and then he left major alone

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cute good job he's just a cute little baby and he's letting callie sniff him that's good milo

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Down

At the startThe earliest footage shapes it with help before any word is attached.
By the endDone without leash pressure and held while a dog walks by (spring 2026), released on the full fold of both front legs; still not flat every time, and the trainer openly weighs whether a flatter down is worth the cost for this dog.
How it was taught

Successive approximations with physical help, the word added once the position was forming; then leash pops and 'nope' for misses; position prompts ('all the way', 'flatten the legs', 'get the leg'); release the instant the second paw folds. The owner is taught to pop forward and down, not up, and to say 'nope' once before any pop so 'down' never predicts a pop. In 2026 the micro educator level for the down is dropped from about 15 to about 5 after a 'very dramatic' response.

On film

Just working on getting him to flatten out his back

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I don't know, he just curves his back a little bit sometimes.

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trying. That's why I'm not being super hard on him right now. Because he is trying. That's

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if you pop up,

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dude down that's a ghetto down yeah over here here down down

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He'll because he he'll do it without the leash pressure

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From like a it was like on like a 15. I turned it down like a five

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down and fold one paw but not the other so i'm just trying to show them as soon as he holds that

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that looks a lot better actually that looks like what i want yeah that's a nice down

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the way down down there we go all the way down like it's supposed to look good

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Recall

At the startGood enough in December for an off-leash recall without the collar, by the handler's judgement.
By the endOn 2026-04-02, lines off with e-collars on, he recalls off children, a football game and the owner; one ignored 'come' is answered with a single tap at 25 and he runs back. Never shown collar-free in a busy place.
How it was taught

December: 'here' with e-collar taps and affection. 2026: first make recall possible at all (other dogs as distraction, a boring handler, a human helper as the place he does not want to leave); then cue, a second's chance, repeat, low taps with the long line for direction, pressure off the instant he heads in, cheerleading all the way, and a return to baseline between trials. Only 'come' is a recall word; informal calls when the handler is not ready to back it up. Line dragged before it is removed, one dog at a time, collars kept on. Repeat 'come' if he did not look back; tap at once if he looked and chose not to.

On film

there you go good boy give him a couple of e-collar taps there good job come on

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So pressure was on. I said the recall. I gave him a second. I said the recall again.

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the long line so he would know where to go and then after that as soon as he started running

Watch at 26:05 ↗

come come Milo come good job oh he figured it out faster that time good boy Milo he figured it out

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um i think you can probably see that his recall looks a lot more reliable than it did

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okay yeah so he recalled off the football

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of the time even 95% of time without the collar it's just the 5% that I worry

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Sit, implied stay and place

At the startIn November he creeps out of the sit when the owner walks away.
By the endHis sit is a low squat the trainer accepts if he holds it until release.
How it was taught

Implied stay: one 'nope', small prong pops, no repeated 'sit', back to the same spot each time, release only on 'okay'/'break', practised at every door and the car. Place: introduced with help on a long line, a duration hold with a cap and full relaxation as the goal, later cots on pavement with the handler walking off.

On film

very quickly get the idea that they can't get up until you say okay because that's all you do once

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right now he's making progress does that make sense so in his mind where did he

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we're going to wait. I'm not going to go past 15 minutes, but I'm hoping that in that 15 minutes

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come on please good place come on Josie Milo's on place now he's on the place

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if he stands fully up but if he squats like down as far as like he can then like that i'll count

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Walking, heel and passing things

At the startThe owner stops and waits when dogs pass.
By the endGives to the leash easily and does not pull (2026-03-31); heels and stops when the handler stops.
How it was taught

Keep walking and say 'let's go' rather than stop for a passing dog. Three-phase loose-leash walking adjusted for short legs. Heel taught only after pulling is gone.

On film

sense that loads him up yeah so we don't want to load him up we want him to think nothing's

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a little bit of help on this one do need to take into account that he's a little shorter so I have

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leash and so you can see he gives to it really easily he's not going to pull on it and so i'll

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heel is like this Milo heel you see he stops when I stop

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Property border and the road rule

At the startNot trained.
By the endStops at the yard border on his own after several reps; stops at the road edge and waits for 'okay'; handed to the owner. Nothing after this is filmed.
How it was taught

Temptation across the line, body block, walk back, praise; criterion is that he stops and walks off without a release; then e-collar at the border so the ground carries the lesson. Road: permission only on 'okay', and treats thrown elsewhere so he keeps fetching.

On film

we can do is um we can just give them a temptation across it basically so you give them a reason

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did you see he was like he stopped on his own so let's see if he did it again come on buddy let's

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and then I have the e-collar for you I'll trade you the e-collar and leash

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Play

At the startIgnores a toy from home at the first 2026 session.
By the endCarries a toy 'so proud', tugs hard with the trainer 'like a big dog' by April.
How it was taught

Repeated throws only when he is looking; tug where he is allowed to win; built deliberately because play would beat petting as a reinforcer.

On film

all right well he's not really doing the duck hunting right now so we're just going to do a

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you've got it he looks so proud when he carries it he looks so proud

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hug on the other end of the rope and go like a big dog you know when he's

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Down
Update. Off leash beside Josi, Milo's down needs repeated 'all the way' prompts, both the first time and when it is asked again for duration.
On film

Milo down all the way all the way down

Watch at 1:05 ↗

little bit of duration Josie Milo down Josie all the way down Milo down down all the way

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so I can create some distance and for some duration good job guys and they do really well

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Walking, heel and passing things
Update. On a night walk, his heel still draws several 'nope's and a 'right here' before it settles. The handler mentions giving a couple of taps, most likely on the collar. Off leash beside Josi, the heel and 'let's go' are asked of both dogs together. Neither clip is dated, so the night walk may come before the owner lesson.
On film

Milo, heel. Heel. Nope. Come on. Heel. Nope. Milo, heel. Right here. Good job.

Watch at 0:03 ↗

i did tap the car a couple of times there good boy

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Behaviour around other dogs (the presenting problem)
Update. A new setting: off leash, walked on purpose past an area with lots of dogs, with Josi beside him. No reaction is mentioned, and the handler ends pleased. The audio does not describe how close the other dogs were or what Milo did as he passed them.
On film

I'm gonna walk by an area with lots of dogs

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So I'm very happy.

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Sit, implied stay and place
Update. The handler's inventory says he knows place and that his duration is good. Place itself is not shown in the clip.
On film

NOPE which is the no no marker so yeah and they know place their duration is good

Watch at 1:46 ↗
Recall
Update. A trainer's comparison in a new setting (an off-site public trail): Milo's recall needed less work than Josi's, so Josi wore the e-collar on that walk. Whether Milo wore one is not said; the audio implies he did not. No recall is shown in these clips. Undated.
On film

Let's go with Josie for this time Josie's the one that needs a little bit more work on her recall than Milo does

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Behaviour around other dogs (the presenting problem)
Update. These Shorts show Milo in free time with Josi and Major, running with Josi; the handler's words are all greetings and praise, and no incident is mentioned. The audio does not describe any interaction between Milo and Major.
On film

josie and milo are running all around

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look at little baby milo little baby milo hi hi major you're so handsome you're so handsome yes you are

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From the Shorts

Short clips posted from Milo's training. They are undated, so they sit beside the program rather than inside it.

Off leash with his sister, past lots of dogs

A handler tests Milo and Josi together, off the leash and wearing e-collars, walking past an area with lots of dogs: both are asked by name to sit, lie down, heel and 'let's go', and Milo needs several 'all the way' prompts before his down is complete. They then both hold a down while the handler steps away to add distance and time. The handler lists what they know (come, heel, sit, down, let's go, 'okay' to release, 'nope' as the no-marker, and place), says 'they do really well', and ends 'very happy'.

Watch the Short at 0:08 ↗

On film

I'm gonna walk by an area with lots of dogs

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You know the proper response to the e-collars much more active off the leash

Watch at 0:14 ↗

Milo down all the way all the way down

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so you can see they know come they know heel they know sit they know down

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NOPE which is the no no marker so yeah and they know place their duration is good

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so I can create some distance and for some duration good job guys and they do really well

Watch at 2:11 ↗

So I'm very happy.

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A heel on a night walk

On a walk at night Milo is asked to sit, then to heel, and leaves the position several times; each time he hears 'nope', is called back with 'right here', and is praised when he is in place. The handler then ends the session for the night because Milo 'did real good'.

Watch the Short at 0:03 ↗

On film

Milo, heel. Heel. Nope. Come on. Heel. Nope. Milo, heel. Right here. Good job.

Watch at 0:03 ↗

i did tap the car a couple of times there good boy

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probably gonna hang on my hat with milo for tonight but he did real good

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Who wears the e-collar on a walk

Setting out on a walk away from the facility with Milo and his sister Josi, the trainer decides that Josi wears the e-collar this time, because her recall 'needs a little bit more work' than Milo's.

Watch the Short at 0:20 ↗

On film

Who is getting an e-collar for now?

Watch at 0:20 ↗

Let's go with Josie for this time Josie's the one that needs a little bit more work on her recall than Milo does

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A trail walk with his sister

Milo and Josi walk a riverside trail on retractable leads. Because it is getting hot, the trainer offers them water before setting out; at a steep, rocky drop-off by a boat launch the trainer locks both leads short 'just in case'.

Watch the Short at 0:33 ↗

On film

starting to get a little hot out here so i'll see if they want a little bit of water

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Yeah, you can see we got the river here.

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yep it's paved like you said it would be line curve ahead steep rocky drop off i see it

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make sure nobody falls off of there might lock your flexes up i'll lock those flexes up just in case

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How a training collar should fit

Before the walk, the trainer explains to camera how the collar should sit: on the left side of the neck, making contact, neither too tight nor too loose, and never choking. The collar type is not named, and the dog being fitted is a 'her', most likely Josi.

Watch the Short at 0:03 ↗

On film

Make sure it sits on the left side of her neck

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Milo, thank you. They both want the hugs. Make sure it's fitting correctly. It's making contact.

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Make sure it's not too tight or too loose. It'd be just right

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Make contact but not be choking them should be right there.

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Free time with Josi and Major

In three short clips Milo is let out with Josi and Major, another dog in training. A handler says Josi and Milo are 'running all around' and that the dogs are 'having the time of their lives'. Nothing is asked of them, and how Milo and Major got on is not described.

Watch the Short at 0:01 ↗

On film

josie and milo are running all around

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they are having the time of their lives

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what's going on major what's going on buddy what's going on hi milo hi good morning good morning

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How the method adapted

Milo is a small, sensitive dog whose real problem changed between the two periods - from a dog who went after other dogs to a dog who would not leave his handler.

The reaction was provoked on purpose, with a dog chosen so nobody got hurt.

The trainer needed to see the behaviour to stop it, and needed a helper who would neither be harmed nor frightened. The same logic rules out small dogs as future testers.

On film

care she's friendly and pretty neutral she she likes being around other dogs um and people so

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that's not the right dog i would use my personal dog for that that's my tester she's an anatolean

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Size became a safety rule in both directions: protect him from big dogs, and do not let him meet the wrong dog at all.

A dog this small can be killed by one bad meeting, so the owner is told to worry more about the other dog than about Milo.

On film

he's he's a little guy so like say you got a big dog like that yeah you might want to you know tell

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know like a situation that um I would encourage you to think more about the other dog yeah and

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Equipment scaled down: a Micro Educator instead of a collar too big to make contact, micro prongs, a light long line, a longer leash and slower pace for short legs.

In December his collar was so loose it 'is not gonna do anything'; in 2026 the trainer explains the micro educator is about 30% weaker and made for tiny dogs.

On film

good job Milo you know what we're gonna take that off because it's so loose on you

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And so this micro-educator is 30% less strong than the mini-educator, right?

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the leash out just slightly longer for him and then also I'm not gonna move quite as fast in

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After a panic the level went down, not up, and the next trial waited for him to settle.

The trainer read the panic at a quarter of an earlier level as sensitisation, and a stressed Milo turns 'velcro', which ends recall practice.

On film

than it was. I'm going to go down to like even half of that. All right. Now we just need him

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return to normal before i can run another trial like another repetition because i don't want him

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The collar level was set per command, not per dog.

What was fine for recall was 'too much for him for the for the down command'.

On film

On the micro educator because it also depends on like the what command it is

Watch at 16:11 ↗

I think the 15 might have just been too much for him for the for the down command

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Because he would not leave, the trainer manufactured reasons to leave - and something to leave from.

A dog who sticks to you gives you no recall reps. A helper's lap, other dogs, a colleague making himself interesting, and a deliberately boring handler all create the distance.

On film

I'm gonna be as boring as possible going to ignore you to leave must go I'll do

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but this is a spot that he does not want to leave which is ideal for this

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His imperfect positions were accepted where the cost of perfection looked too high.

He is trying, and he is built low. The squat counts as a sit; the flatter down is openly weighed and partly let go.

On film

he's obviously trying to down properly

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into the down and it looks a little milo-ish like how much do i care i don't know like um

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Food was dropped in favour of faces, petting and built-up play.

He refused treats; access to the handler's face was 'a great reward for him', and petting beat any treat tried.

On film

Milo here good boy come on yeah yes good good boy and giving him access to my

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whoo that's a much bigger reinforcer than them for any treat that I've tried

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What the family was told

Stopping the reaction to other dogs, and repairing afterwards

that's all i would do and then i would just go nope and pop it nope and pop it and i'd pop it

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you want him to recover afterwards right so now like we don't want to give him a

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where you go over to your friend's house again with toby and you put a leash and the prong on

Watch at 8:42 ↗

Walking past dogs

continues like nope and then jerk a little harder or so here's what i would do um don't stop at all

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oh, Milo, let's go.

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Dog-to-dog greetings for a small dog

right so um uh with that greeting the most important thing is not to pressurize it

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just step in but without panicking if that makes sense so don't go

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come on yeah give him some space yeah and that's all that needs to happen if milo goes

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The implied stay and the release

right I always make them sit and wait right every time or I will put them in

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start back there and now he's over here it's kind of like red light green light

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Corrections: 'nope' first, and only if the dog cares

well then you didn't correct her it's just that simple it's just like if you if you give them a

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nope then if they don't then you can start yeah yeah say nope once you don't have to keep saying

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you help them it's always verbal first at least by a little bit right by like a second or so or more

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How many reps, and how hard

So it allows for decompression and learning to happen in the gaps.

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make it worse right um and the better a dog knows something the worse you make it when they don't

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Recall

like that and i'm like oh that's a release to get away from me not to come towards me

Watch at 41:29 ↗

is almost identical is you give the recall you give them a chance to come to you and then if

Watch at 42:37 ↗

okay so have them come over to you just don't uh do the recall just do like an informal thing

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with with normally with just your voice um and then you back it up with the e-collar if you need

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Tools at home

wandering around the house or something like that because he doesn't or going to bed like

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the e-collar on them and it but then also have the front collar on them because uh little known

Watch at 20:46 ↗

yeah so like one thing to remember is i think both of their e-collars they're about one notch

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Borders and roads

but that's okay that's kind of the point is they need to wait and get permission

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not already on the gravel because if i was already on the concrete and i say come on he thinks i'm

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Filming practice

however much you work with them and then send it to me okay right because then i can be like all

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In the family's own words
The owner supplies the two stories the November lesson is built on - Toby, and Milo pinning Josie - and describes her own attempts (turning his face, a deep voice) as not changing what he did next.
On film

whatever um he it was like that the whole 20 minutes

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So, he stopped everything.

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At the go-home lesson she says the earlier owner meetings gave her too little practice, singles out one meeting at a park as helpful, and names Evan in the complaint.
On film

uh evan gets to yapping and then and then not enough dog training talk happens so we never

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and down yeah um because meeting with you guys at the the beach place at beach bluff at the park

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In 2026 her concerns are excitement with people, especially small children, and losing sight of two small dogs off leash.
On film

a little bit yeah or they might nip them a little bit yeah yeah because they're excited yeah and so

Watch at 16:31 ↗

because I know that was one of the things that you wanted to to try to have. If anybody wanted

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Outcomes

What the trainers reported

Reacted better to a new dog after the program - corrected once, then accepted him.

The owner, at the December go-home lesson

On film

yeah the smaller dog um but this time milo reacted a lot better right well or initially he reacted

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Tapped recall about 80 to 90 percent reliable in the trainer's hands.

The go-home trainer, December 2025

On film

they seem to confused because they normally know like it's about 80 to 90

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Recall much more reliable, close to being trusted off the long line; down duration now good.

The 2026 trainer to the owner, 2026-03-31

On film

um i think you can probably see that his recall looks a lot more reliable than it did

Watch at 1:01:40 ↗

he does really well with that now

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They come about 95 percent of the time without the collar.
On film

of the time even 95% of time without the collar it's just the 5% that I worry

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The border holds: he will not cross the spot.

The 2026 trainer at the home lesson

On film

now he won't go across that spot

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What the footage shows

The November reaction and its interruption are on the audio as events: the setup, the speakers' 'there it is', the 'Nope!' sequence and 'now he stopped'.
On film

opportunity for him to kind of react to it that's not what he did to tubby yeah there it is perfect

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supposed to nope nope nope no now he stopped yeah yeah okay and so then you

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Within one session the recall went from a panic to a faster response after the level was lowered and he was let settle - the clearest before-and-after in his file.
On film

come come come come good job that was so dramatic buddy you good boy why did you so dramatic you're

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come come Milo come good job oh he figured it out faster that time good boy Milo he figured it out

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Off lines in a busy park with collars on, he recalled off children and a football game without stimulation, and after one ignored cue came back on a single tap.
On film

see it yeah and I didn't have to use e-collar for it oh there he goes

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on 25 right and that's why you got a little Yelp and then he ran back right

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The down moved from a shaped position with no cue (late 2025) to a cued down without leash pressure and a nice down under the owner's cue (spring 2026), without ever being called finished.
On film

here come on milo down i'm starting to add the word to it because he's going into it way better

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that looks a lot better actually that looks like what i want yeah that's a nice down

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How it ended. Milo went home.

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