The answer
No. On film, the trainers say it more than once: a dog can do things that are really not good, and none of it is spite. There is always something else driving the behaviour, and finding it is the work.
The most useful version comes in the middle of a session. A dog who jumps up, bolts or grabs the leash when he is corrected is not defying you. 'He wasn't trying to be mean to me or hurt me or do anything ... he was just trying to get out of the pressure' (Kodak). The instruction that follows is about the handler, not the dog: 'there's no reason to get upset about that just kind of like move them around and be calm ... keep it super neutral and non-personal and just show them the right thing to do.'
The same refusal to assign a motive covers other readings. Kelton won't call a dog's guarding of the other dog 'jealousy', 'because I think that's putting an emotion on the dog that probably isn't the one that's happening. It's more of a space issue' (Murphy). A dog who snaps at a child poking his face isn't mean; he 'doesn't know how to deal with that', and that is how dogs get 'labeled as mean and dangerous' (Poseidon). A dog who arrived with an aggression reputation turns out, months later, to have been 'just insecure' (Zeus). In a staff exchange, 'stubborn' is rejected as a label: '98% of dogs are not stubborn' (Daisy). At a first evaluation of a young dog who keeps fighting the household's older dogs, the evaluator says he starts the fights but 'thinks he's doing the right thing': the other dogs' nervousness sets him off and he is trying to make it stop (Chaparro).
The absolution extends to the people as well. Of a dog with a bite history and a street of frightened neighbours, a trainer says it isn't the dog's fault, isn't the neighbour's, and in that case isn't the owner's either, because he inherited the problem (Reaper). To a family whose nervous dog has no event in his past to explain it: 'I don't think that you guys did anything to be very frank nor do I think any traumatic events caused this' (Finn). To an owner who thinks she did something wrong: 'no you did everything right and he chose to do something something wrong' (Major). Trainers apply it to themselves too ('I have overestimated how bad it was', Dutchess; 'never blame the dog ... it's always you', said by Kelton after a setback in Penny's heel) and to a previous trainer whose rule is about to be taken apart ('I'm not demeaning your trainer, but...', Finn).
This doesn't mean nothing has to change. Each of these conversations ends in a demand: correct every single time, proof the dog around people, crate him when nobody is watching, don't give in. Major's owner hears both halves in one sentence: she did everything right, 'except he chose to not he chose to act out and you gave in.' The trainers keep the demand and drop the grievance. Their stated reason is practical: anger is what makes a handler escalate. Our inference, not said on film: no trainer explains how the handler's neutrality changes the dog, only that getting upset has no point.
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What to do
Stop asking why he did it to you and ask what he was trying to get. If he fights a correction, he is looking for the way out of the pressure: stay calm, move him, and show him the right answer ('keep it super neutral and non-personal', watch 10:37). Not being at fault for the past doesn't excuse you from the fix: correct the behaviour every time and don't give in (watch 22:14). If he destroys things while nobody is home, crate him; that is management, not training (watch 14:52).
What the trainers say
in this case like it doesn't have to be personal like he didn't do anything horrifying he didn't do anything bad he wasn't trying to be mean to me or hurt me or do anything he should he was just trying to get out of the pressure
so there's no reason to get upset about that just kind of like move them around and be calm it's not like he mouthed me or did anything bad um so you can just keep it super neutral and non-personal and just show them the
it's so hard with dogs too because like i think that they're like they can exhibit bad behaviors like they can do things
Wiley in his area while he was trying to interact with you, right? I don't call that jealousy because I think that's putting an emotion on the dog that probably isn't the one that's happening. It's more of a space issue, right?
that right yeah um the only difference is that that the dog doesn't know how to deal with that like if they don't like it and so then like that leads to problems
look whose fault is that right sure ain't the dog's fault right and it's not the neighbor's fault and in in many ways in this case I don't think it's the owners fault either because you know so often people just don't know what they're getting into with this kind of stuff
I don't think that you guys did anything to be very frank nor do I think any traumatic events caused this I think this is very likely his genetic makeup this is just something in most cases that I've worked with it's not nobody did anything they just kind of came out that way
no you did everything right and he chose to do something something wrong he chose to avoid and
you did everything right except he chose to not he chose to act out and you gave in that's what happened
happen but it's like 98% of dogs are not stubborn it's a real statistic look it up
He was just insecure, bro. I actually think that he was very insecure. Because the times when he first came to us, when he was kind of flipping around with me and stuff like that, he didn't seem like he was aggressive.
the dude did engage with him of course so i'm not like gonna make that like a punishment because the dude did like actively engage with him was like here you buddy so like i'm not gonna punish that per se but it definitely could use some more proofing
Yeah, so I have overestimated how bad it was.
I'm not demeaning your trainer, but...
And he is the initiator of the fight, but it's coming from behaviors that they're doing. And he thinks he's doing the right thing.
dog it's not the dog it's you it's always you you're the one with
And this is not your fault, by the way. You did not cause her to have fear of any kind.
How it looks, dog by dog
Kodak
The in-the-moment version. Kodak is a flight risk who resists pressure by running, jumping up and grabbing the leash, and the trainer classifies it out loud while it happens: nothing horrifying, nothing bad, no attempt to hurt him, just a dog trying to get out of the pressure. The instruction is about behaviour, not feelings: move him around, stay calm, stay neutral, show him the right thing. This isn't softness. In the same file the trainer argues that refusing to use pressure at all is what makes a dog's life 'uber small'.
On film
in this case like it doesn't have to be personal like he didn't do anything horrifying he didn't do anything bad he wasn't trying to be mean to me or hurt me or do anything he should he was just trying to get out of the pressure
so there's no reason to get upset about that just kind of like move them around and be calm it's not like he mouthed me or did anything bad um so you can just keep it super neutral and non-personal and just show them the
you make their life uber small you can't trust them to do anything and so you're constantly restraining them managing them putting them in a tiny box
Rocko
The case where the cause is a dated event, and the owner already knows it. At drop-off she traces Rocko's reactivity to dogs from next door coming into the yard and fighting, after a time when he had lived happily with four dogs, five cats and some birds. On a walk months later she puts it in one sentence: it was when he got bit. The trainer doesn't assign blame; he gives a prognosis: he'll be fine, he's already on the way.
On film
the family that we were nannying for had four dogs, five cats and three birds or something like that. And he was okay with all of it, but then there was these two bijons that lived next door and the bijons had coming into the yard and fighting the dogs.
It was when he got bit that he stopped making good dog friends.
He'll be fine. Cause he's already on the way because we already got
Dolce
The general statement comes out in conversation with a household while Dolce works. The practical corollary is clean. Asked about a dog who chews things up when left alone, he says to crate him: that is management, not training, and training it out would take more punishment than he thinks is ethical. The dog would be just as happy asleep.
On film
it's so hard with dogs too because like i think that they're like they can exhibit bad behaviors like they can do things
something that's like not a training thing it's just management because like you can't train them
I don't want to punish them that much. Yeah, I think it would be unethical.
Murphy
At the go-home lesson, Murphy guards the household's other dog, Wiley, near the people. Kelton declines the word the family might reach for: it isn't jealousy, which puts an emotion on the dog that probably isn't there. It's a space issue. That reading sets the intervention threshold: act on the smallest instance of Murphy going at Wiley over space, and leave anything smaller alone.
On film
Wiley in his area while he was trying to interact with you, right? I don't call that jealousy because I think that's putting an emotion on the dog that probably isn't the one that's happening. It's more of a space issue, right?
So it's the same thing there's a there's a tension guarding and then there's also guarding of areas
Poseidon
The family reports that Poseidon dislikes the child getting in his face and has corrected the child. The trainer calls his dislike fair. The problem is that he has no way to deal with it, and that is how dogs end up with horror stories and a label of mean and dangerous. His answer is management and an alternative behaviour, not teaching the dog to accept being poked: never leave them unattended, stop it early, and teach a recall to redirect him.
On film
that right yeah um the only difference is that that the dog doesn't know how to deal with that
horror stories or they end up with like just like some kind of general problem and then the dog is
that's more of a management thing just like don't because you i can't train him to be like okay with
Major
After go-home, Major's owner says she thought she had done something wrong. The trainer answers: no, she did everything right and the dog chose to do something wrong. A few days later, the same absolution comes with the other half attached: she did everything right, 'except he chose to not he chose to act out and you gave in.' Not being at fault for the behaviour still leaves her in charge of the fix: nope, then the correction, every time.
On film
no you did everything right and he chose to do something something wrong he chose to avoid and
you did everything right except he chose to not he chose to act out and you gave in that's what happened
Reaper
The case where blame is refused in every direction at once. Reaper has a bite history and a street of frightened neighbours. The trainer asks whose fault it is and answers three times: not the dog's, not the neighbour's, and in this case not the owner's, because he is the second owner and inherited the problem 'already in full swing'. He goes straight on to what makes this serious: dogs like this get locked up until their lives shrink, or do something bad enough to be put down.
On film
look whose fault is that right sure ain't the dog's fault right and it's not the neighbor's fault and in in many ways in this case I don't think it's the owners fault either because you know so often people just don't know what they're getting into with this kind of stuff
in this particular case the owner who saw training was the second owner right so he inherited this issue already in full swing he did not allow it to fester or be created right um this is something that was already present when he got the dog
one day they just accept it and they lock that dog up and the dog gets worse and worse and the dogs life gets smaller and smaller
Finn
The absolution given to a family's face, unprompted, as a finding. Finn is frightened of everything, and the family have been looking for the event that caused it. The trainer tells them there wasn't one: most likely his genetic makeup, and in most comparable cases nobody did anything. In the next breath he gives the honest ceiling: genetics can be largely overcome, but he'll probably always be a little odd in extreme situations. At the go-home lesson Kelton extends the same courtesy to the previous trainer whose leash rule he is about to take apart.
On film
I don't think that you guys did anything to be very frank nor do I think any traumatic events caused this I think this is very likely his genetic makeup this is just something in most cases that I've worked with it's not nobody did anything they just kind of came out that way
so it's probably just genetic thing yeah very that makes it even more likely to just be a genetic thing and so genetics can be overcome to a large extent but he'll always probably be a little weird and really like crazy situations
I'm not demeaning your trainer, but...
Zeus
Zeus arrived with an aggression reputation. Months later, in front of the household, the trainer reads it as insecurity and gives his evidence: at the start the dog flipped around at him in a way that never read as aggressive. The same visit shows how far the no-blame stance goes. The household volunteers that it introduced Zeus to the other dog after being told not to, and what happened. Nobody reproaches them; the conversation moves on to what the dog does now.
On film
He was just insecure, bro. I actually think that he was very insecure. Because the times when he first came to us, when he was kind of flipping around with me and stuff like that, he didn't seem like he was aggressive.
do not introduce them and i tried to immediately lunge straight on the neck jumped on
Deuce
The principle applied to a single rep. A stranger actively greets Deuce and he gets excited. The trainer doesn't correct it and says why: the man engaged him, so punishing it would be unfair. He logs it as proofing still owed. The rep fell short of the standard, and the dog was not at fault for it; both are true.
On film
and then of course he got really excited when dude came around nothing bad about that
the dude did engage with him of course so i'm not like gonna make that like a punishment because the dude did like actively engage with him was like here you buddy so like i'm not gonna punish that per se but it definitely could use some more proofing
Dutchess
The stance turned on the trainer himself. After hearing what the jumping actually amounted to, he revises his own assessment in front of the owners. He then explains the behaviour mechanically: it worked once in a while, so the dog came to treat it as available. That becomes a demand on the owners: the rule has to hold every single time.
On film
Yeah, so I have overestimated how bad it was.
happened is like it happened once in a while and then it kind of got labeled in her mind it's like
Daisy
A staff exchange during a place session, caught by two cameras. One staff member asks another what 'we say about that word', and 'stubborn' is rejected as a label: nearly every dog has some other explanation, and it comes last after everything else. The '98%' is the speaker's rhetoric, not a measured figure.
On film
happen but it's like 98% of dogs are not stubborn it's a real statistic look it up
It's a statistic by the way. 98% of dogs are not stubborn.
Bo
A borderline case, included for how carefully it is handled. The trainer thinks part of Bo's ignoring comes from how his owner sounds: a calm, level delivery that lacks the extra signals the dog reads alongside the word. He introduces the diagnosis by saying it isn't a dig, calling it a personality question and contrasting it with his own amped-up style. Where the handler is part of the cause, the trainers still say so; they change the framing, not the finding.
On film
that's one thing I'm noticing is, and this is not like a uh like a dig because I'm, this is just a personality question sometimes, right? Cuz like I'm all amped up a lot of the time.
Louie
The only place a non-trainer gives this reading. Over a meal, the man taking on Louie, who has a bite on his record, says in Spanish that if the dog bit someone, something happened that shouldn't have; the dog doesn't like being cornered. His conclusion is that this dog doesn't bite, except when he's scared. He locates the bite in the circumstance, not in the dog.
On film
yo pienso que ese perro yo pienso que ese perro si mordió alguien es porque algo pasó
es que esto solo muerde cuando tiene miedo yo de ver este perro yo digo ese
Chaparro
A young, large dog filmed at a first home evaluation (18 Sep 2026) after fights with the household's older dogs, which are the family's reports, not observed. The evaluator's reading assigns no malice: the older dogs' nervousness makes him tense, he tries to stop them being nervous, and when they do not leave a fight starts - he is the initiator, but he thinks he is doing the right thing. A second line, 'No, this would have happened no matter what', may be the same absolution offered to the family, but the question it answers is inaudible, so that part of the fit is tentative. All of this is the evaluator's first-visit diagnosis.
On film
And when this guy gets nervous and uncomfortable, it makes him tense, and so if he's trying to control the situation, he's trying to tell him, like, don't be nervous, right?
And he is the initiator of the fight, but it's coming from behaviors that they're doing. And he thinks he's doing the right thing.
No, this would have happened no matter what.
Ace (Chihuahua-terrier mix)
When Ace fails a down on a slope, the handler resets and moves to a better spot, putting the failure on his own choice of place rather than on the dog.
On film
This is not a great place for me to be doing downism anyway, so probably my fault.
Callie
In a leash-pulling clip the handler corrects Callie and reassures her in the same breath: she pulls because she doesn't know better yet, and the fix is to keep correcting it every session until she does.
On film
Good girl. You just don't know no better.
There she goes, pulling into the leash again, and we are going to fix that.
Fiona
At a lesson (published 4 Jun 2026) the trainer tells Fiona's owner that if she reacts on a loose leash, the owner did not cause it: Fiona made a choice that made no sense, and that makes it a simple thing to penalise.
On film
simple fix, because she made a dumb decision, you didn't cause it, right, she didn't, she
She made a choice that didn't make any sense.
Milo
Asked about Milo snapping at a dog that pesters him, the trainer says he could punish it but would rather make it easier and fairer for Milo by stopping the other dog, comparing it to a child punished for finally snapping at the one who was taunting him.
On film
but but uh you can also make things a lot easier for him yeah where he has to have less impulse
control with that um and where it's more fair to him it's kind of like uh if you um i always
Penny
Both halves of the rule on Penny's film. After a setback in heel the handler takes the blame aloud: 'never blame the dog', it is always the handler. A week later the trainer tells the owners her fear-based reactivity is not their fault - nothing seems to have happened to her; she is naturally set up that way.
On film
I'm dumb I messed it up not you never blame the dog good girl never blame the
dog it's not the dog it's you it's always you you're the one with
And this is not your fault, by the way. You did not cause her to have fear of any kind.
Stormy
In a lesson with Stormy's household (published 6 Mar 2026) the trainer explains how dogs who snap at handling get labeled dangerous when, to them, it was just 'get off me'; the household dog Stella's snapping is read as a strategy that worked every time, not as her nature, and the work is to change what it gets her.
On film
dogs happens all the time and then they get labeled as dangerous but to them they were like
from where she's already doing that and it's a successful strategy because I
bet you every time she did that she got what she wanted they left her alone
Why it works
The stated mechanism has two halves. The first is about dogs: a behaviour is driven by something other than intent to harm. The drivers named on film are escaping pressure (watch 27:16), boredom and being alone (watch 14:17), guarding space, not an emotion like jealousy (watch 84:55), having no other way to deal with a child in the face (watch 08:34), insecurity misread as aggression (watch 45:03), a dated history of being attacked (watch 03:28), genetics (watch 36:39), and a behaviour that paid off now and then and so became 'labeled in her mind' as available (watch 15:53). The second half is about handlers: taking it personally is what produces escalation, so stay neutral, move the dog and show him the answer (watch 10:37). The two meet in diagnosis. If the behaviour has a cause, there is something to work on; if it is spite, there is only something to resent. Major's file adds the corollary: an owner not at fault can still keep the behaviour going by giving in (watch 22:14). Inferred, not stated: why the handler's neutrality itself changes the dog. The trainers act as though it does, and none explains how.
Where the trainers differ
Nobody is at fault, against the handler being part of the mechanism
One view
Nobody did anything: the temperament came with the dog, or the history predates the family.
On film
I don't think that you guys did anything to be very frank nor do I think any traumatic events caused this
in this particular case the owner who saw training was the second owner right so he inherited this issue already in full swing
Another view
The handler is part of the mechanism and is told so: a delivery the dog can't read, giving in, a rule enforced only some of the time.
On film
you did everything right except he chose to not he chose to act out and you gave in that's what happened
happened is like it happened once in a while and then it kind of got labeled in her mind it's like
that's one thing I'm noticing is, and this is not like a uh like a dig because I'm, this is just a personality question sometimes, right?
How to read it
Probably compatible (no blame for the history, responsibility for the fix), and Major's trainer comes closest to saying both in one sentence. No one on film states the distinction in general terms.
Is unsupervised destruction a training problem at all?
One view
Management: crate him, because training it out would take more punishment than is ethical.
On film
something that's like not a training thing it's just management because like you can't train them
I don't want to punish them that much. Yeah, I think it would be unethical.
Another view
Relying on management rather than training is what makes a dog's life small.
On film
you make their life uber small you can't trust them to do anything and so you're constantly restraining them managing them putting them in a tiny box
How to read it
Different speakers about different behaviours. The line, if there is one, is whether the handler is there to act; nobody states it in general terms. Poseidon's trainer draws a similar line for the child: management plus an alternative behaviour, and 'that doesn't mean you have to like treat them like a prisoner'.
Common owner mistakes
- Reading resistance to a correction as defiance, getting angry and escalating, when the dog is looking for the thing that ends the pressure.
On film
in this case like it doesn't have to be personal like he didn't do anything horrifying he didn't do anything bad
Watch at 27:16 ↗ - Putting a human emotion (jealousy, spite) on the dog and missing the actual cause.
On film
Wiley in his area while he was trying to interact with you, right? I don't call that jealousy
Watch at 1:24:55 ↗ - Giving in when the dog acts out, so that he learns acting out works, even though the owner did everything else right.
On film
you did everything right except he chose to not he chose to act out and you gave in that's what happened
Watch at 22:14 ↗ - Correcting a dog for reacting to a stranger who actively engaged him first.
On film
the dude did engage with him of course so i'm not like gonna make that like a punishment
Watch at 6:15 ↗ - Enforcing a rule some of the time, so the behaviour becomes 'available'.
On film
happened is like it happened once in a while and then it kind of got labeled in her mind it's like
Watch at 15:53 ↗ - Introducing the dog to the other dog in the house after being told not to.
On film
do not introduce them and i tried to immediately lunge straight on the neck jumped on
Watch at 36:36 ↗ - Accepting the label of a bad dog and letting his life shrink around it.
On film
one day they just accept it and they lock that dog up and the dog gets worse and worse and the dogs life gets smaller and smaller
Watch at 13:40 ↗
Questions owners ask
Is my dog doing this out of spite?
No. The trainers grant that dogs really do things that are not good, and then refuse the idea of spite. A dog fighting a correction is 'just trying to get out of the pressure'; a dog standing over the other dog is guarding space, not jealous. The useful question is what he was trying to get.
On film
in this case like it doesn't have to be personal like he didn't do anything horrifying he didn't do anything bad he wasn't trying to be mean to me or hurt me or do anything he should he was just trying to get out of the pressure
Wiley in his area while he was trying to interact with you, right? I don't call that jealousy because I think that's putting an emotion on the dog that probably isn't the one that's happening.
Did I cause this?
Often not, and the trainers volunteer it. For a nervous dog, the finding was that nobody did anything and it was most likely genetic. For a dog with a bite history, it was that the owner inherited the problem. For an owner who thought she'd done something wrong: 'you did everything right'.
On film
I don't think that you guys did anything to be very frank nor do I think any traumatic events caused this
no you did everything right and he chose to do something something wrong he chose to avoid and
If it isn't my fault, do I still have to do anything?
Yes. The same owner told she did everything right is told in the next lesson that she gave in when he acted out, and that is why he keeps doing it. No blame for the history; the fix still belongs to you.
On film
you did everything right except he chose to not he chose to act out and you gave in that's what happened
Is my dog just stubborn?
The staff reject the word. On film it is called 'exceedingly rare', the explanation of last resort after everything else, usually confusion, pressure or a missing step.
On film
happen but it's like 98% of dogs are not stubborn it's a real statistic look it up
My dog snaps when my child pokes him. Is he dangerous?
His trainer calls the dislike fair. The problem is that he has no way to deal with it, which is how dogs get labelled mean and dangerous. The answer given is management (never unattended, stop it early) and an alternative behaviour such as a recall, not teaching him to accept being poked.
On film
that right yeah um the only difference is that that the dog doesn't know how to deal with that
that's more of a management thing just like don't because you i can't train him to be like okay with
The lesson
The goal
Name the cause behind a behaviour before responding to it, don't correct a rep the dog wasn't responsible for, and give a no-fault finding without lowering the standard that follows.
Learn first
The drill
Three steps, out loud, before touching the leash. One: say what the dog was trying to get, in his terms (out of pressure, away from the thing, space near the people). Two: say whether he could have done otherwise; if a stranger engaged him first, the rep isn't corrected, it's logged as proofing owed (watch 06:15). Three: state the demand that follows anyway, such as every-time consistency or a crate, and don't give in (watch 22:14). Stay neutral and move the dog to the right answer (watch 10:37).
Watch out for
- Getting angry.
- Punishing a rep the dog couldn't have passed.
- Hearing 'not your fault' as 'not your job'.
- Giving in when the dog acts out.
- Putting a human emotion on the dog.
Check yourself
Your dog grabs the leash and spins when you correct him. What is he trying to get, and what do you do next?
