The answer
Yes. The trainers treat it as one of the few things an owner can't be careless about. A word comes to mean whatever the dog reliably gets after it. If what follows 'sit' is a correction, the dog learns 'sit' is the bad thing. You then have a dog who hears a word he used to know and backs away, freezes or runs. Deuce's trainer calls this 'one of the few things' he'll repeat at every visit.
The records show five ways a word goes bad.
1. The correction lands on the word. Say sit and correct in the same breath and 'that dog is going to go, "Oh, sit's a bad word"' (Deuce). The owner lessons give the same order every time: the word first, the correction only after the dog has failed to do it (Deuce, Dutchess, Luna, Neo, Lola). One trainer describes watching owners do 'sit boom', then a dog frozen with shaking legs. He admits the first dog he ever trained bolted at 'sit' because of this (Lola). The September owner lessons (30 Sep update) give it again in almost the same words: press without the marker first and one day the dog hears 'place' and acts 'pre-shot' - 'it's like a bad word' (Boog); collar straight onto a refused command and 'you've turned it into a punisher', with the dog stepping back scared at the word (Mazi). The marker is named as the buffer between the word and the collar, and Boog's trainer puts a time on it: not at the same moment, and not long after either - within about two seconds.
2. The correction comes before the dog knows the word. Three trainers hold the collar back until the word has been taught by lure or leash. Otherwise the dog links the word with the correction and gets worried every time he hears it (Lunna, Neo, Shadow).
3. The word does the wrong job. The commonest owner version needs no equipment: shouting 'down' at a jumping dog when down means lie down, so 'the idea is not even getting to them' (Deuce). Forcing a sit or down as the punishment after a correction teaches 'I down when I get in trouble' (Max). A 'come' said while you keep walking starts to mean 'walk past me' (King, Zeus). A cue repeated over and over teaches the dog to wait for the repeats (Lola, Stormie). A real command you can't back up teaches that commands are optional. That's why the trainers use an informal 'come here' when no leash is on (Dolly, Josi, Kodak, and Kali and Kane's trainer, who calls it the way 'you can avoid poisoning the recall').
4. The thing that goes bad is bigger than the word. It can be the collar itself: one dog learned to run from it after a handling mistake (Josi). It can be the other dog: correct a nervous dog every time she sees one and she learns dogs mean pain (Luna). It can be the place: 'she thinks out here means sucky experience every time' (Luna). It can be the return: be angry when she finally comes back and she won't come next time (Roxy). And a family's own word can arrive with a history. At home 'lay down' had come before being examined, so Kane answered 'down' by rolling onto his back.
5. The word is asked too often. A trainer's early dog started running from him. What was wrong 'wasn't necessarily the command' but how often it was asked (Stormie).
A wider reading of the session notes adds twenty-three dogs. It finds the first kind at many more lessons, often as the same picture - say sit, hit the collar, and sit becomes 'a bad word' (Coco, Stormi, Titan, Thor, Baxter, Milo) - and Thor's trainer gives the safe order as a chain: 'a sit, disobeys, marker, e-collar'. It adds three details. The handler's body can carry the correction onto the word: a handler who readies the leash before saying sit teaches the dog that the word predicts the pop - 'They don't hear the note. They see you do this' (Stormy). The release can go bad too: let a retractable snap back as you say okay and the dog is popped on the release, which 'poisons the okay cue' (Drago). And the return goes bad not only through anger on arrival (Hattie, Callie) but when every recall is followed by another command, so that the dog stops wanting to come back (Bun). The protection most often named for the recall is the informal call - 'come here', a clap, 'the moomoos' - whenever the formal word can't be backed up (Akira, Kalypso, Lucy, Milo, Rocky, Stormy): 'if they don't come back to me, I don't poison the recall'.
When a trainer sees it starting, the moves on film are the same across very different dogs. Stop pushing. Don't repeat the rep that frightened the dog. Lower the criteria, 'reconcile', and change the dog's mood with a release, freedom or play (Bo, Dolce, Murphy, Shadow, Luna). For a dog that locks up, check for confusion before correcting: withdraw the word and help the dog into the position by hand (Stormie, Deuce). Chunk's trainer shows the balance a nervous dog needs in one go-home week: every marker must be followed in the first week home so the word is not 'wishy-washy', yet he worries that the down and the collar arriving together will make 'the word kind of scare him', and on go-home day, with Chunk in an avoidance phase, he tightens the down while saying 'i don't want to ruin the word for him either'.
Repair is not shown. Two trainers remark in passing that it can take about three weeks, or two and a half to four; Kelton says (23 Sep 2026) that figure has no basis he knows of and that the time changes with context, so it is a remark, not a rule. The other named option is a new word. No session shows a truly poisoned word being retrained. The trainers use 'poison' mainly for kinds 1 and 2, and for a skill pushed too hard in the wrong place.
Angier K9 is a family-owned, play-based Board & Train serving Angier, Raleigh and the Triangle, with three full owner lessons.
What to do
Say the word, give him a moment, and correct only if he doesn't do it. Never correct at the same moment as the word (watch 00:45; watch 12:06). Don't correct a word he doesn't know yet (watch 02:47). Use 'nope' for jumping, not 'down' (watch 01:51). After a correction, walk away instead of making him sit or down (watch 10:28). If you can't back up 'come' with a leash, call him informally (watch 20:24; watch 01:34). Never be cross when he comes back (watch 15:26). If a rep frightens him, stop and end on something easy (watch 10:48).
What the trainers say
so that's that's the main thing. It's just like knowing what you're doing, right? So, it's just important that it goes in that order. And I'll probably mention that. I probably won't mention it again today, but I'm going to mention it to you probably next session and then the go home day, too, because I That's one of the few things I'm like, "This is really important."
Cuz if you say sit and you hit the e-collar, I know, bro, you're good. If I I say sit and then you hit the e-collar, that dog is going to go, "Oh, sit's a bad word."
You're going to be walking and Deuce is going to be like trotting and you're going to say sit and he's going to be like, "Huh?" And he's just going to back up and be like, "Huh? What did I do wrong?" And that's one of the worst things
then you either have to use a new word, which is kind of like awkward, or you have to like untrain that sit is a bad thing and then like retrain it to be what it's supposed to be
it can take like three to four weeks. I'm going to say maybe two and a half to three weeks sometimes just to like unpoison the word.
But, uh just talking about like on the topic of communicating with the dogs, it's it's important that you use the right word. So, like some people their dogs will jump and they're like, "Down, down." And I'm like, "Down is like when you lay down."
it's just not the idea is not even getting to them, right? So, if he jumps, like the nope is really important to use.
the e-collar always comes after a word. So, how does the dog know if it's a reinforcement or a punishment if you don't specify? So, that is why we have two words.
I get rottweilers are interesting because they're tough They have a lot of like push put it but you can I find with like rottweilers just due to their temperament If you're not careful you can hand poison a command thinking that they're being tough because they have this like kind of look and they're very confident so when you see them like lock up sometimes you're like oh he's just being stubborn but genuinely they can be kind of confused
Yeah, but it's always afterwards, because if you do the e-collar before, there's no context, and what can happen is, like, let's say you put her to a down, right, you say down, and then she doesn't want to say you just did the e-collar. What happens is she could learn that down means the e-collar, and then every time you say down, she's like, and she does that, and then you poison the command, and it can take three weeks to unpoison the command.
with it. So, nothing wrong with that. We just have to make sure that number one, I don't make her scared of the e-collar, so I got to be a little more gentle. And number two, make it really clear.
minute here. We're not getting into bad territory yet. If I get if I keep hitting that e-collar. Hey, Duchess.
But that's the two. and then you say the word and then the e-collar always comes after because if you say sit and you hit the e-collar after she doesn't listen what Luna's brain is going to go is oh man every time he says sit I get shocked which means sit is a punisher
you don't want to hit the e-collar every time they see a dog because what does the dog learn
especially if they have nervous like slight nervous tendencies like her they can build an aversion and they in their mind they go all dogs are bad they're dangerous every time i see a dog i feel e-collar it's bad i don't like dogs
their tail's a little low right now so we need to wind down because she thinks out here means sucky experience every time it's not good
this is a careful stage with the down you have to make sure the dog knows the word because if If you e-collar before the dog knows the word, they can associate the e-collar to the word.
If the dog doesn't know the word and you e-collar, they might be like, does that, is sit, like, I guess that means a sit. So each time you say sit, they're going to, like, get worried.
When I first started training, I did a little mistake on that, but.
happening there i think uh tried to go a little too early with him on the down i think frankly he probably just doesn't know the word yet so jumped the gun a little bit on that
He'll know what the word means, and then I can actually start using the e-collar to reinforce it.
if you just e-collar with no context he doesn't know why he's being why he feels anything he's just gonna freak out and not like he's gonna get confused and be like what did i do
you don't want that, right? That's a lot of times how people who don't know what they're doing, they can like make the dog become scared of the word sit or like weird stuff like that.
I'm not doing that yet because the word is not like really in there yet and she doesn't really know what it means and I do use the e-collar she'll start to associate the word with the e-collar and it turns into like a negative word possibly
start doing it where it's like hey every time I force a command right well then sometimes the dog doesn't understand why you force the command right because he's like well we were playing and we were all excited right but then all of a sudden you got upset because I was excited
we associate like oh i down when i get in trouble right or i sit when i get in trouble where what we want is that we just leave it alone when we get in trouble
so again that's something that happens in dog training sometimes the dogs just like ooh not happy about something or maybe has a little bit of a like a little bit of a poisoned cue or something like that like Murphy might not like the heel very much right now I had to change strategies
might have something where you kind of need to like change their emotional state give them a release give them some freedom get them happy do some personal
And so anytime you ask her to do something, you always need a way to reinforce it, like to obligate it. Because if you ask her to do stuff and you have no way of making her do it, then it becomes optional in her mind because she might just blow you off and not do it.
but if she doesn't come i don't have to make her come because it's not a command
and then the e-collar problem with the recall right to me it looked like the e-collar got poisoned a little bit right that can happen um if they're not entirely clear on why it's happening and it doesn't um it doesn't get done right i think that one of my trainers did it by accident
yeah yeah yeah and then if they kind of like flee to escape then that can make them think that's what turns it off
Josie and I'm just giving her an informal recall there so I don't have to reinforce if she doesn't come because I'm not trying to do a recall rep right now
right there, I'm a little careful because I'm really scared to poison any command with him, especially. Because he does seem to build, like, aversive behavior very quickly. which is like not great for training I mean it's not necessarily a bad thing but it doesn't mean you really can't allow for any sort of mistake
some people still were like I just like I was like show me how you do and they're like sit boom and I'm like yeah you just taught the dog the sit means you're getting punished which that's a really bad thing
anytime you see a dog and you're like sit and they're like they go into like this thing of like I don't know what to do and like their their legs are shaking yeah it's not good
first dog I ever trained actually when I was learning how to train I had a little dachshund and I I said sit and he like bolted away cuz I had like trained it the wrong way and I felt really really bad
what level of reaction you got, right? If you just okay so like if the dog like sees right and is like starting to fixate you just hit the e-collar with no like nothing you can like a negative association to just people whereas if it's like a let's go and then you hit the e-collar and then it's a punishment for not listening right they're two very different worlds.
case if I do that all the time what will happen is she'll start to need to hear the word over and over and the implied stay essentially becomes like void right it just doesn't work anymore
Come on. Alright, I might have poisoned that a little bit.
I might have been a little bit too high on the criteria end there.
He'll get over it. I won't press on that command again to prove to you that it's perfect, but he is doing well to sit.
people will use come like it's let's go and that messes up the recall right
so it starts to change what the command means in his mind come starts to become oh I can just like walk fire you don't want that right because if he sees another dog over there and you say come and he kind of like runs back towards you a little bit it and then loop back over there because you've been doing all the other stuff where it's like come could mean like walk by me
um so that's what can happen is a dog can become collar wise here's how it happens you're in here he's running around he doesn't have the collar on you guys are having a good time and then he doesn't listen to you and you go all right fine then i'm gonna go get your collar
And the reason that you might not give the actual command sometimes is because if you give the actual command, you must reinforce it. You must negatively reinforce it. It is not optional. You can never let commands become optional, right? Because whatever thing they did to avoid doing the command, they will repeat in the future right they will do it again and again and again and again because it works
I'm not going to go for any more A-T-E-L because I'm going to start recapping that and pushing that again in another play session, not here on the walk. That'll probably just poison it for him.
you, you cannot be mad at her when she gets to you ever. Um because if you are mad at her when she finally does come to you Yeah. she will remember that. She'll think I won't come back next time.
i will say that was kind of like a negative experience for him a little bit there i didn't know he was going to be so sensitive i'm sorry ramsay um so i have it turned down we're not going to use the e-collar for you know just a little bit during the session just just let him cool down and have some fun
The big problem with heel is that it's kind of gray, and so you have to reinforce something something that's as clear as possible from the dog. And using negative reinforcement in the heel, if it's unclear, can cause a real problem.
and again if you say ant verse e-collar and then nope verse e-collar it looks exactly the same except minus like one word to the outside but to her brain she's taking the info as two very different things
there was a lab I was working with like when I was first learning how to train dogs and he did really good and then I kept drilling commands all of a sudden he was like running away from me and like not listening and his whole body language changed and I found out that yeah it was like wasn't necessarily the command that was bad it was the frequency of it that was encouraging him to like repress himself
Um I try not to assume that the dog is just like actively avoiding doing what I want him to do. So, what I'll do is I stop saying the word and I just start doing the position with the leash. And what that does for me is that if there was some kind of confusion, some kind of problem with the clarity, then that'll fix it right then and there.
now if you move from escape to avoidance too quickly that can become a major issue right because now you've put a a lot of pressure on the dog to do something that they are unclear on what it is that they're supposed to do. And so then they don't know how to escape a much higher level of pressure and you can start to create panic and confusion and suspicious associations.
oh no, oh no, you fell, mama, come here, come here, that's okay, that's okay, that was hard, good girl, I know it's hot, I thought you could do it, is this too slippery for you
So we're going to be trying to implement some things to help her. to maybe not you know maybe trying to combine it with something enjoyable like a tug toy see if she can come around and uh start to associate it with something more positive
biggest thing is just making sure to save the marker before because if not you'll kind of get like you could get this thing where like maybe he gets in a pattern of like not listening to place you say place he doesn't listen and he hit the e-collar and then one day you're like boot place and he's like and he's like oh no he's pre-shot yeah it's like a bad word
So if you did have a moment like that where you did say the command and you hit the e-collar at the same time, you could quickly, the dog might be like, wait, maybe this word means I'm getting punished. Heal is a bad word.
if you give the command dog doesn't want them and you you use the E collar, the dog can associate the command with the E collar, and now you've taken a command and you've turned it into a punisher.
that's kind of like that's what i was a little worried about is that over time he might like associate down and add together and then like the word kind kind of scares him.
but i don't want to ruin the word for him either
so that's the way you can avoid poisoning the recall by making it not yeah just don't use that at that moment because you can't back it up
And if you want to really destroy training There's like two quick ways you can do it if you wake up one morning and you're like I really want to destroy all the training that he learned Confuse them or poison the command, you know
build associations like negative associations really fast you can poison a command really easily with a nervous dog
They don't hear the note. They see you do this
I use what's called an informal recall very frequently.
they get a pop and then that poisons the okay cue
he doesn't sit and then you hit the e-collar you teach the dog to sit means he's getting punished
How it looks, dog by dog
Deuce
A young Rottweiler whose owner had just bought her first e-collar. The rule comes first: the word, then the collar, never the collar on the word. The trainer marks it as one of the few things he'll repeat at every remaining visit. Then the scene the owner will recognise if she gets it wrong: Deuce trotting along, hearing 'sit', backing up as if to ask what he did wrong. Then the price: a new word, which he calls awkward, or weeks of un-training. In the same breath he gives the version with no equipment in it. 'Down' already means lie down, so shouting it at a jumping dog sends nothing the owner meant, and that is what 'nope' is for. An earlier in-house session adds the breed-specific route to the same damage. A Rottweiler's confident look reads as stubbornness when he is often confused, and pushing on that wrong reading is how 'you can hand poison a command'.
On film
Cuz if you say sit and you hit the e-collar, I know, bro, you're good. If I I say sit and then you hit the e-collar, that dog is going to go, "Oh, sit's a bad word."
it can take like three to four weeks. I'm going to say maybe two and a half to three weeks sometimes just to like unpoison the word.
it's just not the idea is not even getting to them, right? So, if he jumps, like the nope is really important to use.
I get rottweilers are interesting because they're tough They have a lot of like push put it but you can I find with like rottweilers just due to their temperament If you're not careful you can hand poison a command thinking that they're being tough because they have this like kind of look and they're very confident so when you see them like lock up sometimes you're like oh he's just being stubborn but genuinely they can be kind of confused
Luna
A nervous shepherd-husky whose treatment was being taken places. Her file holds the rule, its price, and the two biggest ways the idea grows. The first way it grows is that the unit at risk isn't always the word. A down attempt cost her badly and her tail dropped. The trainer's stated worry was not the word but the place: 'she thinks out here means sucky experience every time'. He stopped, walked her, let her sniff, praised her, and checked that the tail was back before doing anything else. The down was put off 'a little bit later'. The second way it grows is about triggers. Correct her every time she sees a dog and a dog with nervous tendencies learns 'all dogs are bad'. The alternative is to give her a 'let's go' and correct only the failure to follow it. That teaches her to predict the sequence, until she looks like a dog who doesn't care.
On film
nothing less from a breed that is like you know shepherd husky right so if you look at the tail there that experience with the down she did not like that at all so we just need to walk around open her up a little bit
we'll come back to the down a little bit later maybe she needs to open up a little more
you see the tail is a lot more like she her tail kind of flops down but for a second it was like lower than usual so i wanted to make sure we open her back up
one more thing I want to go over is so I say, "Let's go." Each time she sees a dog and we condition eventually to the point where she sees a dog, she goes, "Oh, he's going to say, "Let's go." And if I don't listen, I get the e-collar. So, it looks like she just doesn't care about the dog. But in reality, she's actually predicting what's going to happen and just says it's not worth it.
Lunna
A Belgian judged sensitive to pressure. Lunna's file gives the timing rule in its plainest form: no collar on a word until the dog knows it. On her last day the trainer moves her down to a stage of steady pressure until she lies down. He is careful to call it a stage that is only fair because she now knows the word. If the dog doesn't know the word, 'each time you say sit, they're going to, like, get worried'. He adds that he made that mistake himself when he started. The same caution shapes the equipment. In an earlier staff session, the colleague explaining her remote says the boost button is off-limits for her. A big jump is only fair on a dog already taught to move into the command under pressure. A first-session dog 'won't necessarily know why'. At the go-home lesson the owner is told the same thing. Kelton has ruled that 'don't hit the red button' is the instruction that stands for her.
On film
this is a careful stage with the down you have to make sure the dog knows the word because if If you e-collar before the dog knows the word, they can associate the e-collar to the word.
When I first started training, I did a little mistake on that, but.
because if you do it to a dog that you've only had for like yeah like your first session you do that they won't necessarily know why
please don't hit the red button all right just it yeah just did just this that button right there
Neo
An excitable Labrador who loves people. Neo's handler catches the mistake as he makes it, in a busy public place. A down isn't coming, and he stops to say why on camera. He 'tried to go a little too early with him on the down', and Neo probably doesn't know the word yet. So the plan changes back to luring until the word means something. Only then will the collar be used to back it up. At the second owner lesson, another trainer gives the family the order: the word, then the collar about a second later, never the collar without the word first. He also says what the careless version produces: a dog who panics because he doesn't know why he felt anything, and in time a dog 'scared of the word sit'.
On film
happening there i think uh tried to go a little too early with him on the down i think frankly he probably just doesn't know the word yet so jumped the gun a little bit on that
He'll know what the word means, and then I can actually start using the e-collar to reinforce it.
you don't want that, right? That's a lot of times how people who don't know what they're doing, they can like make the dog become scared of the word sit or like weird stuff like that.
Shadow (German Shepherd puppy)
A German Shepherd puppy with a fixation problem around other dogs. At her second owner lesson, down is still being taught with the word plus a pull down on the leash, then a point, aiming for the word alone. The trainer explains to the family why the collar stays off it: the word 'is not like really in there yet', and a collar now could turn it 'into like a negative word'. The same lesson shows the mood side. When she starts avoiding him and whining with her tail low, he stops drilling and plays with her until her tail and ears come back up. Jumping is handled with the prohibition marker, not a down, so the down stays a position rather than a telling-off.
On film
I'm not doing that yet because the word is not like really in there yet and she doesn't really know what it means and I do use the e-collar she'll start to associate the word with the e-collar and it turns into like a negative word possibly
how to maintain a good mental state for the dog because once the mental state for the dog goes
Max
A dog who gets overexcited in the house. Max's go-home lesson gives the rule from an angle nobody else takes: don't use a position as the punishment. After correcting him for getting too excited, the owner is told to just walk away. Don't make him sit or down, because a dog made to down every time he's in trouble learns 'I down when I get in trouble'. Earlier in the program, a cued down was used as impulse control when Max wanted to jump on his owner. That was a position held while he wanted to break it, not one imposed after a correction. The two instructions fit together, but the difference between them isn't spelled out on film.
On film
we associate like oh i down when i get in trouble right or i sit when i get in trouble where what we want is that we just leave it alone when we get in trouble
It's disturbingly easy to poison a commanding officer.
he's really excited because he wants to jump on you right so making him down when he wants to jump on you is a perfect example of like impulse control
Murphy
A blue heeler near the end of his program. Murphy's one short clip is the concept as a working call rather than a lesson. A heel on a flat collar goes badly, Murphy looks unhappy, and the trainer lets it go. He tells the camera the dog 'might not like the heel very much right now', maybe 'a little bit of a poisoned cue'. The answer isn't more heel. It's a change of mood: 'give them a release give them some freedom get them happy'. The heel is simply dropped for the day and the session moves to recalls and praise.
On film
so again that's something that happens in dog training sometimes the dogs just like ooh not happy about something or maybe has a little bit of a like a little bit of a poisoned cue or something like that like Murphy might not like the heel very much right now I had to change strategies
might have something where you kind of need to like change their emotional state give them a release give them some freedom get them happy do some personal
Dolly
A husky learning her first skills at private lessons with her family. Dolly's lessons protect words by not using them too soon. When she first fights leash pressure onto the cot, the trainer holds back the word 'place' 'because she doesn't like it very much yet'. With no leash on, he calls her with 'come here' rather than 'come'. A real command has to be followed through, and without a leash he couldn't: 'if she doesn't come i don't have to make her come because it's not a command'. The owners get the rule outright at both lessons. Every ask needs a way to make it happen, or it 'becomes optional in her mind', so keep a leash on whenever you ask.
On film
and so here i'm not going to introduce the word because she doesn't like it very much yet right she's not giving to the pressure she's very upset about it
come here come here so i'm not giving the word that i'm going to use for the recall come because i can't i didn't have the leash
so essentially like 99.9% of cases if you ask her to do a thing she has to do it
which means that you should always have a way if you do ask her to do something you should always have a leash on so that you can make sure she does it
Josi
A small dog on her second program with the company, alongside the household's other dog, Milo. In Josi's case the thing that went bad was the tool, not a word. She had been running from the collar when she felt it. The March trainer's account is that the collar 'got poisoned a little bit'. He thinks one of his trainers hit the wrong button at a high setting by accident. Once running away turned the pressure off, running became the answer. He says the lesson was learned quickly and unlearned quickly: most of the recall improvement came from one clear session the owner watched. The same household shows the informal recall in use. When a 'come' won't be backed up, the trainers call her informally and say so ('don't tell him come ... we can't obligate it').
On film
and then the e-collar problem with the recall right to me it looked like the e-collar got poisoned a little bit right that can happen um if they're not entirely clear on why it's happening and it doesn't um it doesn't get done right i think that one of my trainers did it by accident
unfortunately fortunately it can also be unlearned relatively quickly like to be honest with you probably 80% of the recall improvement that you see now with the two of them came from that one session
don't call don't tell him come yeah don't give him a former recall we can't we can't obligate it
okay so have them come over to you just don't uh do the recall just do like an informal thing where like yeah just be like that way that way we don't have to reinforce it
Kane
A four-year-old AmStaff-pit mix who came into the program with a word already loaded. At the end of the first owner lesson, the owners explained what 'lay down' had meant at home. It was the word before being checked over and treated for his skin and ears, and the dogs answered it by rolling over. Kelton confirms they rolled over when first told 'down'. Nobody on film calls this poisoning. It's the same mechanism from the other side: the word meant what reliably followed it, which at home was examination, not a position.
On film
always made them like i'll say like l-a-y l-a-y-d-o-w-n and then let me see yeah so whenever y'all would tell them down yeah they'd show you their stomach i was like yeah they did i did notice they rolled over at first yeah they'll because they were preparing
Dolce
A protection-sport dog whose working words are in German. Her file adds protections for experiences rather than words. She slips and falls on an obstacle in a public park with the camera running. The exercise is dropped, she is called in and comforted, and there is no second attempt. A heel that had gone slightly sour gets a repair session of its own. The trainer pairs it with a tug, lets her win something, uses a more encouraging tone and breaks the work up. His stated reason is that a small win inside a disliked exercise changes how it feels to her. Everything else she does on a spoken cue alone; 'It's just the heels are the only thing'. And a correction is held back with his finger already on the button, because the behaviour did arrive, slowly.
On film
oh no, oh no, you fell, mama, come here, come here, that's okay, that's okay, that was hard, good girl, I know it's hot, I thought you could do it, is this too slippery for you
Honestly, even if it's just a little bit, I think it'll help just to make her feel like she's winning something.
Everything else is pretty much verbal. She'll do a place, she'll do a sit, she'll do pretty much anything else with verbal. It's just the heels are the only thing.
so X I almost punished there you look kind of long to do it I didn't punish because you did it like the last I got like my finger was over the button I was like all right cool
Dutchess
Dutchess's owners get the rule with a down as the worked example. Correct before the word and 'she could learn that down means the e-collar', and 'it can take three weeks to unpoison the command'. Her trainer also watches the collar itself. She has a habit of running from collar pressure, which he says isn't a sign it hurts. So he holds two limits at once: gentle enough that she doesn't become scared of the collar, and clear enough that the way out is easy to find. He keeps count as he goes: 'we're not getting into bad territory yet'. In the same session he declines to correct a slow response because 'I don't think she knew'.
On film
Yeah, but it's always afterwards, because if you do the e-collar before, there's no context, and what can happen is, like, let's say you put her to a down, right, you say down, and then she doesn't want to say you just did the e-collar. What happens is she could learn that down means the e-collar, and then every time you say down, she's like, and she does that, and then you poison the command, and it can take three weeks to unpoison the command.
of has a tendency where she'll just kind of try to blow me off or run away from the e-collar pressure, right? Um It does not mean that the e-collar pressure is hurting her, but her reaction to it is that I can get out of it if I run away. So, we're teaching her that it's not really a viable option.
Yeah. Okay. So, why don't I eat car there? Well, she gave me a face. She was looking around. I don't think she knew, honestly.
Finn
The published concept page was built on Finn, because with him the risk is the rule that governs everything. His trainer says he is 'really scared to poison any command with him' because Finn 'does seem to build, like, aversive behavior very quickly'. Then he qualifies it: not necessarily a bad thing, but it leaves no room for mistakes. The markers are said deliberately softly so the words themselves don't add to his nerves. Pushing his rear down into a sit is turned down as a way to teach it: 'That won't teach you anything', and he 'does not like to be in that position at all'.
On film
right there, I'm a little careful because I'm really scared to poison any command with him, especially. Because he does seem to build, like, aversive behavior very quickly. which is like not great for training I mean it's not necessarily a bad thing but it doesn't mean you really can't allow for any sort of mistake
What I'm doing is I'm not doing the butt push to teach the command. That won't teach you anything. What it does is that he does not like to be in that position at all.
right now i'm just marking a couple things here i'm marking the okay i'm marking the nope sorry part something oh yeah i'm marking the okay the any of our reinforcements the punisher markers right okay uh okay nope i don't want to say those two that and freak him out because it's not like he has enough nerves already
Lola
A dog from a nervous start. Lola's lessons give the concept its clearest failure picture and the trainer's own admission. At the go-home he describes asking owners to show him how they correct and seeing 'sit boom'. Then he describes the dog it makes, frozen and shaking at the word. Then he says he did it himself: the first dog he ever trained, a dachshund, bolted at 'sit'. The second lesson draws the line that matters for reactive dogs. A collar fired at a dog who is only starting to fixate, with no command, attaches to 'just people'. A 'let's go' followed by the collar is a punishment for not listening. 'They're two very different worlds.' A third session applies the idea to repeating a cue. If he keeps saying the word, the implied stay 'just doesn't work anymore'.
On film
some people still were like I just like I was like show me how you do and they're like sit boom and I'm like yeah you just taught the dog the sit means you're getting punished which that's a really bad thing
first dog I ever trained actually when I was learning how to train I had a little dachshund and I I said sit and he like bolted away cuz I had like trained it the wrong way and I felt really really bad
don't punish because she didn't do anything to get punished for instead you just go like oh come on let's go if she then continues to fixate the last thing and go harder then you and punish
so right there I made a little mistake there okay what was my mistake well I kept saying the word over and over
Bo
Bo gives the only case of a trainer catching the damage as it happens and running the whole repair on camera. It's a busy store, and too many failed heels in a row. He says 'I might have poisoned that a little bit', and names the cause as his own criteria being too high. Then comes a break, a step he calls 'reconciliation', the criteria lowered, and clean heels again. In another session a sit comes out badly and unhappily. He won't run it again to prove it for the camera ('He'll get over it'). The only explanation he offers is that dogs 'can just feel a little strange' sometimes.
On film
Come on. Alright, I might have poisoned that a little bit.
Come here, dude. Yes. Reconciliation. Reconciliation.
Okay, good boy. Good heel. Good job. Lower the criteria a little bit. Let's go. Come on, Bo.
Sometimes they can just feel a little strange.
King
King's file shows the version nobody calls poisoning that works the same way: a word worn out by misuse. Say 'come' when you mean 'let's go' and it 'messes up the recall'. The trainer ties this to the moment it will matter. Another dog appears, you say come, and he runs towards you and 'circles right back around' because come now means 'go along'. The reason you say come is usually that you need him not to be over there.
On film
people will use come like it's let's go and that messes up the recall right
somebody else is walking their dog king's like king runs towards them you don't want you to say come and then he thinks okay come is the same as let's go now and he comes to you and then circles right back around leaves
so it's important that you don't mess up the recall because very often the reason that you're telling him come is because you want him to not be over there
Zeus
Zeus's handover makes the same point about the recall with the everyday scene spelled out. You're walking to the door, you say 'come' and keep walking, and he walks past you inside. At that point come has started to mean 'walk by me', and it won't work when another dog appears. Two more protections belong to him. The collar must never become the thing that predicts trouble. Fetching it when he stops listening, or showing him the remote, is banned in unusually strong words, because that is how a dog becomes 'collar wise'. And the recall is kept from always meaning work: he's called in, fussed, and released again from that spot.
On film
it's very important that you keep those two commands separate because this is what happens all the time people do this we're walking up close the door Zeus is over there right Zeus is over there walking up to the door says Zeus come and you're still walking and then he walks by you into the door and he didn't follow come at all
go like hey and they show them never I ban you from doing it please if I see you doing that or I hear of you doing that or you tell me you did that I'll be mad right I'll get on you for that because that will cause you problems
and see this time i'm making sure that he comes back to me and then i'm just going to release him from here after some loving oh boy right so that way he doesn't think that every single time i call him back he's going to get a command like heel or sit or down or something else
Kodak
Kodak's file gives the rule that stops a command being wasted, and a skill stopped for the day for this reason. If you give the actual command you must back it up; 'It is not optional'. Otherwise whatever the dog did to avoid it becomes his answer. That's why the informal recall exists. On a walk the handler stops working the heel rather than push it, because pushing it here 'will probably just poison it'. He'll pick it up again in a play session, and he spells the cue aloud letter by letter so the dog doesn't hear it.
On film
And the reason that you might not give the actual command sometimes is because if you give the actual command, you must reinforce it. You must negatively reinforce it. It is not optional. You can never let commands become optional, right? Because whatever thing they did to avoid doing the command, they will repeat in the future right they will do it again and again and again and again because it works
I'm not going to go for any more A-T-E-L because I'm going to start recapping that and pushing that again in another play session, not here on the walk. That'll probably just poison it for him.
Roxy
A two-dog household, Roxy and Ramsey. It gives the most humane instance and the most important rule for owners. The instance: a correction lands much harder on Ramsey than the handler expected. Within seconds he calls it 'a negative experience', apologises to the dog by name, and puts the collar away for a stretch so Ramsey can 'cool down and have some fun'. Later he wonders whether Ramsey was confused rather than hurt, and retests carefully. The rule is about the recall and has no exceptions: 'you cannot be mad at her when she gets to you ever'. If you punish her when she comes back, you're 'punishing her for doing the right thing'. A third session names a limit on the method itself. Pressure on an unclear heel 'can cause a real problem'.
On film
i will say that was kind of like a negative experience for him a little bit there i didn't know he was going to be so sensitive i'm sorry ramsay um so i have it turned down we're not going to use the e-collar for you know just a little bit during the session just just let him cool down and have some fun
Right. Um so if you punish her when she gets back, think of it as you are punishing her for doing the right thing. She finally came back.
The big problem with heel is that it's kind of gray, and so you have to reinforce something something that's as clear as possible from the dog. And using negative reinforcement in the heel, if it's unclear, can cause a real problem.
Stormie
Stormie's trainer, Connor, adds the marker argument, the frequency argument and the clarity test. The marker argument: the soft marker with the collar and 'nope' with the collar look the same from outside, one word apart. To the dog they are two different instructions: go back into what you were doing, or never do that again. The frequency argument is his own early failure. He kept drilling a lab until the dog started running from him. 'It wasn't necessarily the command that was bad', it was how often he asked. The clarity test guards against poisoning by mistaking confusion for refusal. When a command has gone backwards, he stops saying the word and helps the dog into the position with the leash. If the problem was confusion, that fixes it on the spot. He also warns her family against repeating a cue until it lands.
On film
It's either a, Oh, I need to go back into this. Like I messed up. Let me go back into this behavior or it means, Oh, that's a bad behavior. I can't do it ever again.
there was a lab I was working with like when I was first learning how to train dogs and he did really good and then I kept drilling commands all of a sudden he was like running away from me and like not listening and his whole body language changed and I found out that yeah it was like wasn't necessarily the command that was bad it was the frequency of it that was encouraging him to like repress himself
the way it is you say sit the window is active and the window is closed once you give the release if you keep saying sit over and over you can train the dog that it's like they learn that oh i need to hear the word over and over and then that defeats everything that i taught them and makes your life harder
Louie
Louie's file explains the collar side of the idea in phases. Moving to a level that makes non-compliance costly before the dog knows what the level is asking for can 'create panic and confusion and suspicious associations'. The same handler softens his own correction on the very next rep: 'I think that was a little harsh', so next time it's the marker only. He's also the one trainer who says on camera that he's 'not a huge fan of' the punisher word, while he keeps conditioning it.
On film
now if you move from escape to avoidance too quickly that can become a major issue right because now you've put a a lot of pressure on the dog to do something that they are unclear on what it is that they're supposed to do. And so then they don't know how to escape a much higher level of pressure and you can start to create panic and confusion and suspicious associations.
all right that's the first time he's responded to that so I'm only gonna do the actual like marker next time and if he backs off then we'll do it because I think that was a little harsh
his head doesn't quite turn there he doesn't get a little scared when I say that does the our ant word but you know the punisher word which i'm not a huge fan of and the reason for that is because he's actually not really nervous of the word yet it means that the word doesn't have it's not reached its like full power yet so we're gonna keep conditioning him
Boog
At the handover, the version with a slip in it: if you repeat a command and press at the same moment, the dog may decide 'Heal is a bad word'.
On film
biggest thing is just making sure to save the marker before because if not you'll kind of get like you could get this thing where like maybe he gets in a pattern of like not listening to place you say place he doesn't listen and he hit the e-collar and then one day you're like boot place and he's like and he's like oh no he's pre-shot yeah it's like a bad word
want it to be within like two seconds after okay uh because the longer the time goes on the more window the dog has to like maybe associate it to something else
it just can't be at the same time but it can't be too long after
So if you did have a moment like that where you did say the command and you hit the e-collar at the same time, you could quickly, the dog might be like, wait, maybe this word means I'm getting punished. Heal is a bad word.
Mazi
At the first owner lesson the trainer explains the marker as the thing that tells the dog what the collar was for - without it, 'the dog's like i don't know what happened' - and then gives kind 1 directly: a collar straight onto a refused command turns the command into a punisher, and the dog steps back scared at the word. 'So if you had a buffer, like a marker... you avoid the problem.'
On film
then you use eco so because that we use our marker then the eco is followed up after it and the dog understands what happened okay and that way it's not just like boom right it's just like the dog's like i don't know what happened
if you give the command dog doesn't want them and you you use the E collar, the dog can associate the command with the E collar, and now you've taken a command and you've turned it into a punisher.
they're like step back and they're all scared because they've associated that word, the E collar. So if you had a buffer, like a marker, and then you avoid the problem.
Chunk
A nervous young bully, so the trainer works both edges of the rule. At the in-program lesson he tells the owners that every marker must be followed in the first week home, 'powering up the word', or it becomes 'wishy-washy'; and in the same lesson he worries that the down and the collar arriving together could make 'the word kind of scare him'. On go-home day Chunk is in an avoidance phase on the down; the trainer tightens it but says 'i don't want to ruin the word for him either', because a nervous bully cannot be pressed like a confident one without scaring him. His message for the owners: he knows the word; you need to know how to correct it to get him back.
On film
but i say for the first week the dogs come home it needs to just because like you're kind of powering up the word and if the dog thinks like it's a wishy-washy word like sometimes she does it sometimes she doesn't then it can make the authority you have over the dog a lot less effective
that's kind of like that's what i was a little worried about is that over time he might like associate down and add together and then like the word kind kind of scares him.
he knows the word you just have to kind of know what to do to correct it to get him back into that zone again
but i don't want to ruin the word for him either
with chunk he's got a little bit of nerves so whenever you have a nervous bully it's interesting because they do really want to avoid but also you can't go like you would with maybe just your average american bully that's kind of confident it because you'll end up scaring them
Kali
Their trainer gives the formal-versus-informal rule from kind 3: a command should be given only when you are ready to make sure it is followed; otherwise call them in informally, coaxing rather than commanding, so a dog who does not come 'doesn't mess up the recall' - 'that's the way you can avoid poisoning the recall'.
On film
if you are going to give a command you should be ready to make sure that that command is followed right so it should be not an option
like an informal recall right because i'm just coaxing them back right it's very informal and so even if they didn't come back right away i don't have to it doesn't mess up the recall right
so that's the way you can avoid poisoning the recall by making it not yeah just don't use that at that moment because you can't back it up
Akira
Not a map member; added from the session notes. At the evaluation the trainer names the commonest owner version of kind 3: saying 'come' when a 'let's go' is meant poisons the come, because she learns come means she can blow past you.
On film
it poisons the come that was a let's go right because then she starts thinking come means i can just blow by
Baxter
Not a map member; added from the session notes. In a private lesson the owner goes from a second 'come' straight to the collar, and the trainer points out the missing marker: hearing come should just mean come, not the collar.
On film
the reason that's important is you don't want him to think that hearing come means e-collar right hearing come just means come
Bernie
Not a map member; added from the session notes. At the go-home lesson the trainer explains that the spoken word 'has a battery': if twenty times in a row the dog ignores it and nothing happens, it comes to mean nothing. On an outing he lets an unintended 'come' go uncorrected and calls it 'not really an official' come.
On film
if if 20 times in a row they didn't do it and nothing happened they would start to think that you telling them they shouldn't do it doesn't matter it means nothing
Bun
Not a map member; added from the session notes. The trainer warns that if every recall is followed by another command, the two get cemented together - a 'poisoned recall' where the dog stops wanting to come back, or one that always brings the other behaviour with it.
On film
you don't end up cementing those things together because it can cause either a poisoned recall where they don't want to come back anymore
Callie
Not a map member; added from the session notes. In an early session the trainer tells the family never to punish Callie for coming slowly once she has come, because next time she is likely not to come at all.
On film
you never want to punish your dog for not coming after they already came because next time they're most likely not to come if you punish them
Clark Kent
Not a map member; added from the session notes. At the go-home lesson the family is told that unless a behaviour can be corrected in the moment, let it go: correcting a command over and over can make the word itself mean punishment.
On film
Because otherwise you might accidentally poison a command where he thinks that when you say a command and he doesn't do it and you just keep correcting him, that it's the, that that word, that command is supposed to mean punishment
Coco
Not a map member; added from the session notes. At Coco's first owner lesson the trainer says a nervous dog builds negative associations fast, so a command is poisoned easily; the usual way is collar straight after a refused sit, and the marker is what keeps the word clean.
On film
then the dog doesn't sit and like they hit the collar and what that teaches the dog is that sit is a bad word it's a punishment word
Daisy
Not a map member; added from the session notes. On a store outing the trainer says the word once, helps Daisy into the down, and explains the one-word rule: don't condition a dog to need a punisher word first, a leash pull, or the word twice.
On film
And it's really important that we do that and that we don't condition our dogs to, like, need to hear a Punisher word first or condition them to where you have to pull the leash or condition them to where they need to hear the word two times
Drago
Not a map member; added from the session notes. Two of Drago's Shorts guard other words. Letting a retractable snap back as you say 'okay' pops the dog on the release and poisons it, so the trainer releases with the tension held. And near the end of a walk he does not recall Drago when he is already close, so as not to make coming back predict trouble.
On film
number two is that when you do that and then you like let the flexi go they get a pop and then that poisons the okay cue so then instead of thinking okay means yay find your own fun time
because I don't want to poison the recall and make him think that coming back to me causes problems.
Hattie
Not a map member; added from the session notes. At the handover to her new home the trainer gives the adopters one way to poison 'come': be irritated that she took her time and get mad when she finally arrives.
On film
simple one is don't poison it there's a few ways to poison it one way is say
if you then get mad at her when she does get to you yeah she thinks coming back to that thing
Kalypso
Not a map member; added from the session notes. In a private lesson the owner asks whether she can just say come; the trainer says to call informally, because a formal 'come' with no way to reinforce it teaches that come is optional.
On film
because if you go calypso come and you don't have any way to reinforce it right then she might not come and then all of a sudden she thinks okay come is optional when I hear come
Levi
Not a map member; added from the session notes. At the evaluation Connor tells the family not to use the collar's beep or vibration as the warning, because a signal that is never followed through loses its power, like a parent's count to three. At the follow-up he reads Levi's slide the same way: 'eh' with nothing after it taught him he could go back to old habits.
On film
by using the the beep or like the vibration you can effectively take the power of that word away
Yeah, probably what happened is he probably noticed that when you said, like, eh, that all, like, nothing happened, and now he probably thinks he can get away with, like, what he did before.
Lucy
Not a map member; added from the session notes. At the evaluation the family is told to call Lucy with 'the moomoos' when the recall can't be enforced, so a refusal does not hurt it; and to keep 'out' free of consequences, so that only 'nope' predicts the collar.
On film
doesn't come to you it doesn't hurt the recall at all because you didn't use it right so you because you'll otherwise you can end up poisoning it so to speak
but the out shouldn't have that when if if your dog goes and suppresses when you say out you associate it with the with the shock and you don't want that
Major
Not a map member; added from the session notes. Major's owner reports him slipping back at home; the trainer points out she has been repeating 'place' as the telling-off. 'Nope' is the correction and 'place' the command.
On film
you're saying place and it's not place it's like nope you correct him by saying nope and then the command is place
Max (Goldendoodle)
Not a map member; added from the session notes. Kelton applies the idea to the release: once Max hears 'okay' he should go and have a great time, and that must not be poisoned into constant checking in.
On film
Um, uh, but then like once I tell him, okay, and he can run around and go do whatever he wants, that's, you know, um, we don't want to poison that where he's always like looking at me.
Milo
Not a map member; added from the session notes. At the go-home lesson for Milo and Josi the trainer puts 'nope' before the pop so that 'down' does not come to mean getting popped; on off-leash outings the families call informally when there is no way to reinforce the recall.
On film
What you don't want to end up having is that down means getting popped
okay so have them come over to you just don't uh do the recall just do like an informal thing where like yeah just be like that way that way we don't have to reinforce it
Peque (PK)
Not a map member; added from the session notes. In a public-training Short the trainer will not use 'let's go' to bring Peque (PK) back while they are standing still, because it would blur that cue, and 'come' feels wrong for it too; she uses 'easy' instead.
On film
so if we say let's go it's gonna connect kind of confuse them about the let's go cue
Rocky
Not a map member; added from the session notes. At an owner lesson the trainer explains the informal recall he uses whenever he can't make Rocky come back - so a refusal is never a rep of the real word. At a follow-up he keeps 'heel' for heel and gives running its own phrase, so the heel's standard is not blurred.
On film
Where either I can't make them come back in that scenario, and so then I don't try. I just do an informal thing, because then if they don't come back to me, I don't poison the recall.
um but instead of me telling him heal because if i tell him heal it'll confuse the other
Stormi
Not a map member; added from the session notes. At Stormi's first owner lesson the trainer gives kind 1 in the dog's words: collar straight after 'sit', and one day sit becomes the punishment word; with the marker in between, the dog ties the collar to the marker instead.
On film
She's like, every time I hear the word sit, then the e-collar hits me. that's a bad word it's a punishment word
Stormy
Not a map member; added from the session notes. Stormy's private lessons hold three versions. Don't say 'come' with no leash on - call informally - or you poison the cue. Don't attach 'place' until she is happy getting on the cot, in case it gets a bad association. And a handler who readies the leash before saying sit teaches the dog that the word predicts the pop: 'They don't hear the note. They see you do this.' The trainer tells this last one as a story about a staff trainer's dog that looked suppressed, and part of it is on uncertain audio.
On film
but don't use come right because you'll poison that queue is what it's called poisoning the queue
I'm not saying the word yet yeah right cuz I don't know how she's gonna take this right she might be scared of it and then if I say place she's looking yeah she has a bad association with that word now
They'll go sit and then they won't sit and so they get ready to correct and they'll do like this And then they'll go nope and pop it right problem is that They don't hear the note. They see you do this
Thor
Not a map member; added from the session notes. At a refresher lesson the trainer names poisoning the command as one of two quick ways to destroy training, and gives the order as a chain: command first, disobedience in the middle, marker, and the collar last.
On film
Confuse them or poison the command, you know That's where were you say a command and then hit the e-collar and they start thinking like sits a bad word
Like a chain of events the e-collar is always the last thing in the event. The disobedient behavior is is in the middle and the command is the first part. So it's like a sit, disobeys, marker, e-collar.
Thumper
Not a map member; added from the session notes. In Thumper's school sessions a correction during the 'out' came before he knew the word, and the association landed on the ground rather than the cue. A later session steps back to the learning phase on the down after he had to be manipulated too much.
On film
yep and then he associated with the out no he associated with the ground well yeah cause he didn't even know how to out yet
because he didn't quite understand it i had to manipulate him too much i noticed so like i would just take a step back go back to learning phase fix that then go back to conditioning
Titan
Not a map member; added from the session notes. At Titan's first owner lesson Connor sets out the markers and gives the warning: collar straight after a refused sit teaches that sit means he is being punished.
On film
if you say sit and then he doesn't sit and then you hit the e-collar you teach the dog to sit means he's getting punished
Why it works
As the trainers explain it, the mechanism is association plus order. A word takes on the meaning of whatever reliably follows it, so where the correction falls decides what the dog learns. If it follows the word after the dog has had the chance to comply, he learns that ignoring the word is what brings the correction ('oh, I got e-collar because I didn't sit', watch 02:59). If it lands on the word, he learns the word itself brings it ('every time he says sit I get shocked which means sit is a punisher', watch 09:10). If it comes with no word at all, there's nothing for it to attach to, and the dog 'doesn't know why ... he's just gonna freak out' (watch 17:44). Or it attaches to whatever is in view: 'a negative association to just people' (watch 37:09). The same logic says the dog has to know the word first. On a word he doesn't yet understand, a correction can't carry 'you didn't do it', only 'this word means trouble' (watch 03:05; watch 23:19; watch 06:18). Louie's phases say the same about the collar's levels: pressure the dog doesn't know how to escape produces 'panic and confusion and suspicious associations' (watch 17:36).
A second explanation covers the versions with no correction in them. A word can carry only one message. A positional word used as a telling-off either gets obeyed as the position or means nothing: 'the idea is not even getting to them' (watch 02:09). A recall said while walking on teaches that come means 'walk by me' (watch 11:39). A position forced after a correction takes on the correction's meaning (watch 10:49). A command left unenforced teaches that whatever the dog did instead is the answer (watch 16:31; watch 17:36). The markers exist so command words never have to carry a prohibition. The soft marker and 'nope' look the same from outside but tell the dog two different things (watch 10:23; watch 21:23).
A third explanation is about what the association attaches to. It sticks to whatever is present and stands out, not only the cue. So the collar itself can be what goes bad, when running away is what turns it off (watch 06:36). So can a trigger (watch 34:33) or a whole outing (watch 10:48). A fourth is about how much and how often, not what: a command damaged by being asked too often (watch 47:15), or pushed too hard in a hard place (watch 07:47; watch 28:48).
What is inferred, not stated: nobody explains why repair is so much slower than damage. Josi's trainer says the opposite for her case, that it 'can also be unlearned relatively quickly' (watch 06:58). The three-week figure has no source; Kelton (23 Sep 2026) calls it unsupported and context-dependent, so it is not a rule. The tail-and-mood readings (watch 10:48; watch 03:14; watch 36:33) are used as the early warning, but no trainer spells out how a dropped tail relates to a word going bad.
It also gives the marker's job in the dog's terms: with it, 'the dog understands what happened'; without it, 'the dog's like i don't know what happened' (Mazi watch 10:03).
Coverage pass (1 Oct 2026): Stormy's lesson extends the order to the handler's body - a visible wind-up before the word predicts the correction just as the collar would (watch 43:25). Levi's evaluation gives the same logic for a warning signal: a tone or vibration that is never followed through loses its power, like a count to three that never arrives (watch 06:22); Bernie's go-home calls the spoken word a battery that runs down when it is ignored with no consequence (watch 52:25).
Where the trainers differ
On jumping: a positional command, or the prohibition marker?
One view
Don't use a position to deal with jumping. 'Down' at a jumping dog means lie down, so the message never arrives: use 'nope'. After correcting overexcitement, walk away, and don't make the dog sit or down, or the positions come to mean trouble.
On film
it's just not the idea is not even getting to them, right? So, if he jumps, like the nope is really important to use.
we associate like oh i down when i get in trouble right or i sit when i get in trouble where what we want is that we just leave it alone when we get in trouble
Another view
A cued down held while the dog wants to jump is 'a perfect example of like impulse control'. It's used on the first visit with the same dog whose go-home lesson warns against forcing downs.
On film
he's really excited because he wants to jump on you right so making him down when he wants to jump on you is a perfect example of like impulse control
How to read it
Probably not a real contradiction. A down asked for before the jump, and held, is a trained position under temptation. A down forced after a correction is a telling-off. But nobody makes that distinction on film, and an owner hearing both lessons would get two instructions about the same moment.
Whether a soured command gets repaired, or has to be abandoned.
One view
Repair it, and quickly. Dolce's sour heel gets its own session with a tug. Bo's damaged heel is repaired in about ninety seconds with a break, 'reconciliation' and lower criteria. Murphy's heel is dropped for the day and his mood reset. Josi's trainer says most of her recall came back from a single clear session.
On film
So we're going to be trying to implement some things to help her. to maybe not you know maybe trying to combine it with something enjoyable like a tug toy see if she can come around and uh start to associate it with something more positive
Okay, good boy. Good heel. Good job. Lower the criteria a little bit. Let's go. Come on, Bo.
unfortunately fortunately it can also be unlearned relatively quickly like to be honest with you probably 80% of the recall improvement that you see now with the two of them came from that one session
Another view
At the owner lessons the only remedies named are a new word, or weeks of un-training and retraining, priced at three weeks or 'two and a half to three weeks'.
On film
then you either have to use a new word, which is kind of like awkward, or you have to like untrain that sit is a bad thing and then like retrain it to be what it's supposed to be
Yeah, but it's always afterwards, because if you do the e-collar before, there's no context, and what can happen is, like, let's say you put her to a down, right, you say down, and then she doesn't want to say you just did the e-collar. What happens is she could learn that down means the e-collar, and then every time you say down, she's like, and she does that, and then you poison the command, and it can take three weeks to unpoison the command.
How to read it
The two may describe different depths of damage. The repairs on film are for a command that has soured a little within a session or two. The weeks-long price is for a word that has fully become the correction. No session shows the long repair being done, and the three-week figure is given without a source. Kelton, 23 Sep 2026: the figure is unsupported and changes with context; treat it as a remark, not a rule.
Whether a command word may be repeated.
One view
No. Saying it over and over teaches the dog to wait for the repeats and cancels the implied stay.
On film
case if I do that all the time what will happen is she'll start to need to hear the word over and over and the implied stay essentially becomes like void right it just doesn't work anymore
the way it is you say sit the window is active and the window is closed once you give the release if you keep saying sit over and over you can train the dog that it's like they learn that oh i need to hear the word over and over and then that defeats everything that i taught them and makes your life harder
So if you did have a moment like that where you did say the command and you hit the e-collar at the same time, you could quickly, the dog might be like, wait, maybe this word means I'm getting punished. Heal is a bad word.
Another view
In a crate-aggression session the no-repeat rule is called 'bogus' and 'all context dependent', and then qualified straight away: 'there are some rules like it should be contingent most of the time'.
On film
ask him to sit um or maybe down depending on which one we get him to do so we're gonna say it a bunch of times um they tell you not to do that but that's bogus it's all context dependent there's no rules in dog training
there's no rules in dog training um so uh well for this scenario i'm not gonna start for this random there are some rules like it should be contingent most of the time
How to read it
The two rules go to different audiences: the no-repeat rule to families at handovers, the context rule to a colleague with his arm in a crate. The speaker qualifies himself on the spot. The file records the difference and doesn't resolve it. Not resolved.
Josi: what poisoned the collar.
One view
The March trainer thinks one of his trainers used the wrong button at a high setting by accident, and that she learned running away turned it off.
On film
and then the e-collar problem with the recall right to me it looked like the e-collar got poisoned a little bit right that can happen um if they're not entirely clear on why it's happening and it doesn't um it doesn't get done right i think that one of my trainers did it by accident
How to read it
Not resolved in the case record, and not resolved here. The trainer's explanation is a belief ('i think'), naming no trainer and no date. Either the accident happened in the earlier, unfilmed program, or the fear has more than one source. Kelton, 23 Sep 2026: Josi came out well in the end.
Common owner mistakes
- Saying the command and correcting in the same instant, so the dog learns the word predicts the correction.
On film
some people still were like I just like I was like show me how you do and they're like sit boom and I'm like yeah you just taught the dog the sit means you're getting punished which that's a really bad thing
Lola · Watch at 18:55 ↗ Cuz if you say sit and you hit the e-collar, I know, bro, you're good. If I I say sit and then you hit the e-collar, that dog is going to go, "Oh, sit's a bad word."
Deuce · Watch at 0:45 ↗ So if you did have a moment like that where you did say the command and you hit the e-collar at the same time, you could quickly, the dog might be like, wait, maybe this word means I'm getting punished. Heal is a bad word.
Boog · Watch at 21:06 ↗ if you give the command dog doesn't want them and you you use the E collar, the dog can associate the command with the E collar, and now you've taken a command and you've turned it into a punisher.
Mazi · Watch at 11:10 ↗ - Correcting with no word at all, so the dog has nothing to link it to and simply panics.
On film
you don't want that, right? That's a lot of times how people who don't know what they're doing, they can like make the dog become scared of the word sit or like weird stuff like that.
Neo · Watch at 17:53 ↗ - Shouting a positional word, 'down', at a jumping dog when it already means lie down.
On film
But, uh just talking about like on the topic of communicating with the dogs, it's it's important that you use the right word. So, like some people their dogs will jump and they're like, "Down, down." And I'm like, "Down is like when you lay down."
Deuce · Watch at 1:51 ↗ - Making the dog sit or down as the punishment after a correction, so the positions come to mean trouble.
On film
we associate like oh i down when i get in trouble right or i sit when i get in trouble where what we want is that we just leave it alone when we get in trouble
Max · Watch at 10:49 ↗ - Using 'come' when you mean 'let's go', saying it while you keep walking, until come means 'walk past me'.
On film
people will use come like it's let's go and that messes up the recall right
King · Watch at 15:05 ↗ it's very important that you keep those two commands separate because this is what happens all the time people do this we're walking up close the door Zeus is over there right Zeus is over there walking up to the door says Zeus come and you're still walking and then he walks by you into the door and he didn't follow come at all
Zeus · Watch at 11:20 ↗ - Giving a real command, most often 'come', when you have no leash on and no way to follow it through.
On film
And so anytime you ask her to do something, you always need a way to reinforce it, like to obligate it. Because if you ask her to do stuff and you have no way of making her do it, then it becomes optional in her mind because she might just blow you off and not do it.
Dolly · Watch at 17:36 ↗ And the reason that you might not give the actual command sometimes is because if you give the actual command, you must reinforce it. You must negatively reinforce it. It is not optional. You can never let commands become optional, right? Because whatever thing they did to avoid doing the command, they will repeat in the future right they will do it again and again and again and again because it works
Kodak · Watch at 16:31 ↗ - Being cross with the dog when he finally comes back, which punishes the right answer.
On film
you, you cannot be mad at her when she gets to you ever. Um because if you are mad at her when she finally does come to you Yeah. she will remember that. She'll think I won't come back next time.
Roxy · Watch at 15:26 ↗ - Repeating the cue until the dog answers.
On film
the way it is you say sit the window is active and the window is closed once you give the release if you keep saying sit over and over you can train the dog that it's like they learn that oh i need to hear the word over and over and then that defeats everything that i taught them and makes your life harder
Stormie · Watch at 40:23 ↗ - Fetching the collar when the dog stops listening, or showing him the remote as a threat.
On film
um so that's what can happen is a dog can become collar wise here's how it happens you're in here he's running around he doesn't have the collar on you guys are having a good time and then he doesn't listen to you and you go all right fine then i'm gonna go get your collar
Zeus · Watch at 1:04:06 ↗ - Using a word at home for something the dog finds unpleasant, then expecting the same word to mean a trained position. This one comes from the owners' own account; no trainer names it as a mistake.
On film
always made them like i'll say like l-a-y l-a-y-d-o-w-n and then let me see yeah so whenever y'all would tell them down yeah they'd show you their stomach i was like yeah they did i did notice they rolled over at first yeah they'll because they were preparing
Kane · Watch at 1:01:32 ↗ - Reading a confused dog as a stubborn one and pushing harder, most likely with a confident-looking breed that locks up.
On film
I get rottweilers are interesting because they're tough They have a lot of like push put it but you can I find with like rottweilers just due to their temperament If you're not careful you can hand poison a command thinking that they're being tough because they have this like kind of look and they're very confident so when you see them like lock up sometimes you're like oh he's just being stubborn but genuinely they can be kind of confused
Deuce · Watch at 1:56 ↗ - Drilling: asking too often rather than too hard, until the dog's whole body language changes.
On film
there was a lab I was working with like when I was first learning how to train dogs and he did really good and then I kept drilling commands all of a sudden he was like running away from me and like not listening and his whole body language changed and I found out that yeah it was like wasn't necessarily the command that was bad it was the frequency of it that was encouraging him to like repress himself
Stormie · Watch at 47:15 ↗ - Letting the correction lag well behind the marker, so the dog links it to something else.
On film
want it to be within like two seconds after okay uh because the longer the time goes on the more window the dog has to like maybe associate it to something else
Boog · Watch at 20:52 ↗
Questions owners ask
Can a word really go bad, or is that just something trainers say?
The trainers treat it as real and describe what it looks like. Deuce's trainer pictures a dog trotting along who hears 'sit', backs up and seems to ask what he did wrong. Lola's trainer describes dogs frozen with their legs shaking, and a dachshund of his own that bolted at 'sit' because he had trained it wrong. They also say how easily it happens: 'it's disturbingly easy', said at Max's go-home. Some trainers remark that repair takes about three weeks, but Kelton says (23 Sep 2026) that figure is unsupported and the time depends on context; the other option is a new word, and no session shows the repair being done.
On film
You're going to be walking and Deuce is going to be like trotting and you're going to say sit and he's going to be like, "Huh?" And he's just going to back up and be like, "Huh? What did I do wrong?" And that's one of the worst things
first dog I ever trained actually when I was learning how to train I had a little dachshund and I I said sit and he like bolted away cuz I had like trained it the wrong way and I felt really really bad
What order do I do things in?
The word first, then give him a moment. The correction comes only after he hasn't done it, and never at the same moment as the word. That way he learns that ignoring the word brings the correction, not that the word does. And don't correct a word he doesn't know yet. The trainers teach the word first with a lure or the leash, and only use the collar once the word means something. Boog's trainer gives the timing: the press comes within about two seconds of the marker - never at the same moment, never long after.
On film
Yeah, but it's always afterwards, because if you do the e-collar before, there's no context, and what can happen is, like, let's say you put her to a down, right, you say down, and then she doesn't want to say you just did the e-collar. What happens is she could learn that down means the e-collar, and then every time you say down, she's like, and she does that, and then you poison the command, and it can take three weeks to unpoison the command.
this is a careful stage with the down you have to make sure the dog knows the word because if If you e-collar before the dog knows the word, they can associate the e-collar to the word.
He'll know what the word means, and then I can actually start using the e-collar to reinforce it.
want it to be within like two seconds after okay uh because the longer the time goes on the more window the dog has to like maybe associate it to something else
it just can't be at the same time but it can't be too long after
My dog jumps up. Why can't I just say 'down'?
Because 'down' already means lie down. If he obeys, he lies down, which isn't what you meant. If he doesn't, 'the idea is not even getting to them'. The word for 'stop that' is 'nope'. And once you've corrected him for getting too excited, one trainer says to just walk away rather than make him sit or down, or he learns 'I down when I get in trouble'. On one dog's first visit, a down asked for before the jump and held was used as impulse control. That's a trained position, not a telling-off.
On film
it's just not the idea is not even getting to them, right? So, if he jumps, like the nope is really important to use.
we associate like oh i down when i get in trouble right or i sit when i get in trouble where what we want is that we just leave it alone when we get in trouble
he's really excited because he wants to jump on you right so making him down when he wants to jump on you is a perfect example of like impulse control
Should I say 'come' when he's off leash at the park?
Only if you can follow it through. A command he's allowed to ignore teaches him commands are optional. So with no leash on, the trainers call informally with 'come here' or 'that way', and say out loud that it wasn't a command. Save 'come' for when you can make it happen, keep it for 'come all the way to me', never 'come along', and never be cross when he arrives. Kali and Kane's trainer gives the same rule: a command only when you are ready to make sure it is followed; otherwise coax them in informally, which 'doesn't mess up the recall'.
On film
but if she doesn't come i don't have to make her come because it's not a command
okay so have them come over to you just don't uh do the recall just do like an informal thing where like yeah just be like that way that way we don't have to reinforce it
people will use come like it's let's go and that messes up the recall right
you, you cannot be mad at her when she gets to you ever. Um because if you are mad at her when she finally does come to you Yeah. she will remember that. She'll think I won't come back next time.
if you are going to give a command you should be ready to make sure that that command is followed right so it should be not an option
so that's the way you can avoid poisoning the recall by making it not yeah just don't use that at that moment because you can't back it up
My dog is reactive to other dogs. Should I correct him when he sees one?
Not for looking. Every trainer on film agrees looking is allowed. After that they differ, so you should know both. Luna's trainer says correcting a nervous dog every time she sees a dog teaches her dogs mean pain. Give 'let's go' and correct only if she doesn't follow. Zeus's trainer corrects moving toward the other dog straight away, and a full charge hard. Lola's lesson does both: 'let's go' first for a look, a penalty on its own for a full lunge. Kelton's house position (23 Sep 2026): it is context- and case-dependent, because different approaches accomplish different goals. Ask your own trainer which your dog is on.
On film
you don't want to hit the e-collar every time they see a dog because what does the dog learn
However, if he starts to like go towards it, it's an immediate uh-uh attack on the e-tron,
don't punish because she didn't do anything to get punished for instead you just go like oh come on let's go if she then continues to fixate the last thing and go harder then you and punish
A rep went badly and he seemed frightened. Should I try again so he doesn't learn he can get out of it?
Not that day, on the evidence here. After a fall, Dolce's exercise was dropped and she was comforted. Luna's down was put off until she'd 'open up a little more'. Murphy's heel was swapped for release, freedom and play. Bo's trainer wouldn't re-run a bad sit for the camera. In each case the trainer finished on something easy and left the hard thing for another day.
On film
oh no, oh no, you fell, mama, come here, come here, that's okay, that's okay, that was hard, good girl, I know it's hot, I thought you could do it, is this too slippery for you
we'll come back to the down a little bit later maybe she needs to open up a little more
might have something where you kind of need to like change their emotional state give them a release give them some freedom get them happy do some personal
He'll get over it. I won't press on that command again to prove to you that it's perfect, but he is doing well to sit.
How do I tell whether he's refusing or confused before I correct him?
Stop saying the word and help him into the position with the leash. If the problem was confusion, 'that'll fix it right then and there'. Deuce's trainer warns that a confident-looking dog who locks up is often confused, not stubborn. Pushing on the wrong reading is how 'you can hand poison a command'.
On film
Um I try not to assume that the dog is just like actively avoiding doing what I want him to do. So, what I'll do is I stop saying the word and I just start doing the position with the leash. And what that does for me is that if there was some kind of confusion, some kind of problem with the clarity, then that'll fix it right then and there.
I get rottweilers are interesting because they're tough They have a lot of like push put it but you can I find with like rottweilers just due to their temperament If you're not careful you can hand poison a command thinking that they're being tough because they have this like kind of look and they're very confident so when you see them like lock up sometimes you're like oh he's just being stubborn but genuinely they can be kind of confused
The lesson
The goal
The handler can say what makes a word go bad, run every rep in the right order, keep each word for one job, and stop a session for the right reasons rather than pushing through.
Learn first
- Command, marker, collar - in that order
- Help it or press it - read which
- Meaningful release
- 'Let's go' is not 'Come' - and the recall has an ending
See it done
- The order rule, the failure scene, the repair cost and the 'down' mistake, taught to an owner in two minutes. Watch at 0:28 ↗
- Why the collar waits until the dog knows the word, and the trainer's own early mistake. Watch at 2:47 ↗
- A trainer catching his own damage in a store and running the whole repair. Watch at 7:28 ↗
- The tail read, the session wound down, and the outing made pleasant again before it ends. Watch at 10:20 ↗
- Correct and walk away: why a position must not become the punishment. Watch at 10:28 ↗
- The informal recall used live, because no leash means no command. Watch at 20:24 ↗
The drill
As run and prescribed on film. First, the order: say the word once, wait, and correct only if nothing comes. Never at the same moment as the word (watch 00:45; watch 12:06). A word the dog doesn't know yet gets no correction at all. It's taught with a lure or the leash until it means something (watch 06:18; watch 23:19). Second, the vocabulary check: 'nope' for jumping, never 'down' (watch 01:51). 'Come' only when you can follow it through, otherwise an informal call (watch 20:24; watch 01:34). 'Come' never while you keep walking (watch 11:20). After a correction, walk away rather than ask for a position (watch 10:28). Third, the clarity test when a known command goes backwards: stop saying the word and help him into the position with the leash (watch 03:39). Fourth, the stop rule: if a rep frightens or hurts him, or his tail drops, stop. Walk, sniff, praise, finish on something easy, and come back to the hard thing another day (watch 10:48; watch 13:47; watch 03:14). Inside a session, lower the criteria and 'reconcile' rather than repeat a failing rep (watch 07:39).
Watch out for
- Correcting at the same moment as the word (watch 18:55).
- Correcting a word the dog doesn't know yet (watch 03:05).
- Using 'down' to mean 'stop jumping' (watch 01:51).
- Making him sit or down as the punishment (watch 10:49).
- Saying 'come' you can't follow through, or 'come' while walking on (watch 17:36; watch 15:05).
- Being cross when he finally comes back (watch 15:26).
- Pushing a confused dog because he looks tough (watch 01:56).
- Repeating a rep that frightened him, to prove the point (watch 02:53).
- Asking too often rather than too hard (watch 47:15).
Check yourself
Your dog jumps on a visitor. You say 'down' twice and correct him on the second 'down'. What two things have gone wrong, and what should you have done? (Answer: you used a position word as a telling-off, so the message never arrived. And the correction landed on 'down', so 'down' now predicts trouble. Say 'nope', correct only if the jumping carries on, then walk away without asking for a position.)
