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The lessons distinguish returning to the handler and remaining until release from a directional cue to move along.
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Answer
In the cue system described in these lessons, come asks for a return to the handler; let’s go asks the dog to move along or change direction. The trainer explains the distinction in King’s lesson and describes the problem with a recall that becomes a fly-by (3bqg175QFSA, 38:44–38:55).
The arrival is only part of the taught recall. The handler also explains what the dog should do near the person and which signal ends the request. In another King recording, the trainer uses a change of direction to explain when he would choose let’s go instead (vxn1_xHg6VM, 11:00–11:33). Watch the complete sequence: where the dog starts, which cue is given, where the dog goes and what follows the arrival.
Some owner lessons also distinguish an informal invitation from a formal cue. Roxy and Ramsey’s first owner lesson discusses that choice (z5Wm7r2lSCI, 28:20). The distinction belongs to the vocabulary and expectations being taught in that household. It does not mean every owner should adopt two similar-sounding cues without instruction.
The useful principle is to make the request and its ending understandable. A dog’s name, praise word or movement cue may have a particular meaning in an individual program. Ask how those words work together in your own lesson rather than assuming the word alone tells you what has been taught. The recordings illustrate the trainers’ explanations; they do not establish that one confused repetition permanently determines a dog’s future response.
Owner takeaway
Write down the cue for returning, the cue for moving along, and the release signal taught for your dog. Ask your trainer to show what counts as completing each request. When you watch an example, keep the return, the pause near the handler and the release together in your observation.
Across the cases
King
King's file carries the longest single teaching block on this anywhere in the corpus, and it is the command his trainers call his best. The distinction is defined, demonstrated both ways, and justified by the moment it will matter: you are usually saying come because you want him not to be over there, so a recall that has blurred into a movement cue is gone exactly when you need it. The same sessions add two things no other dog's file states so plainly. First, his name is a recall - caught live when somebody says it just to get him to look up, which is a handler error demonstrated at the instant it happened. Second, how far he may range is handed to the family as a dial they set rather than a standard the program installs: an invisible bubble, as big as they like, with a recall every time he crosses it. And it is paired with a warning about the opposite mistake, heeling the whole walk, which the same handler calls a boring walk for the dog.
people will use come like it's let's go and that messes up the recall right
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Okay, King come, and then he comes, but his come is, he goes by me. Right? Like a let's go.
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we're walking and then i change direction i go this way now king let's go that's when you use let's go right you don't use come then
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so the important thing is to not mix the two
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Louie
Louie's park session is the clearest statement in the corpus of what the recall is actually for, and it works by naming the failure owners accept without noticing: the dog comes, gets praised, and immediately goes back to what he was doing. The handler says outright that this negates the purpose of the recall, because the situations the command exists for are precisely the ones where you needed the dog away from something. So the recall is defined to include staying with you, and a separate command carries the other meaning - and he gives a positional rule for choosing between them: behind you, let's go, so he catches up; in front of you, the recall, unless you are turning back, in which case let's go again. He also names the check-in radius that sits around both, at fifteen to twenty feet.
so if they're behind me I'm gonna use a let's go so they catch up if they're in front of me unless I'm changing direction and turning back I'm not gonna use let's go I'm just gonna use the recall
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so about 15 to 20 feet at most they kind of stop and like check in and they might go sniff something but they kind of stay within that radius whether they're behind me or in front of me
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Lola
Lola's file is where the ending of the recall is specified. The fault is described as a behaviour dogs do when they are almost trained: they come up, keep going, wrap around and come back - and the line where it becomes a problem is when they pass the handler's side. What is wanted is a recall that stops in front and finishes with a sit, and the house rule stated in another session is blunt about it: the come always ends in a sit. Her go-home lesson keeps the formal and informal recalls apart by name, and the same week's lesson makes the most consequential technical distinction in this whole family of ideas - whether the collar is a penalty for a behaviour or a reinforcement for an ignored command, which depends entirely on whether a let's go came first.
and I don't care if it's like in the front or to the side it's mainly like once they pass the side that's typically where it's a problem
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So, that's what Kelton was talking about. There's like the informal recall, which is just like, "Hey, come here." And then there's like RG come, which is like that has to be reinforced.
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don't punish because she didn't do anything to get punished for instead you just go like oh come on let's go if she then continues to fixate the last thing and go harder then you and punish
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Sage
Sage's sessions hold the most precise version of the recall's ending and the cleanest statement of the formal-versus-informal rule. On come, she comes all the way in; no particular position is required, but she stays in the small area by the handler - even forty-five seconds later - until the release, and if she drifts she is told and brought back. On 'okay' the handler actively encourages her out, because clarity runs both ways: a dog can be left standing there not daring to leave. The go-home lesson gives the other half as an owner rule: he will not say her formal name-and-come unless he is prepared to make it happen, so he uses an informal 'come here' with encouragement instead - and the cost of getting it wrong is put in three words, then it becomes optional.
normally what i'll do is like again it's all about clarity so if i say you know like say come or Ramsey come and then they get here and they stay there for a second and then I say okay and they just they they don't leave I go okay and I go go go I'll encourage them I'm like get out of here like you're free
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And this is an informal recall because I don't want to have to reinforce it.
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If you're going to say a formal command like calm down, say whatever it is, you got to reinforce it afterwards. So like if she doesn't do it, you got to like make sure she does it somehow, right?
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What is that? Want to go check it out? Let's go. Sage, come on. Let's go see what's making all that noise.
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Kodak
Kodak's file supplies the mechanism the rest of the corpus assumes. Two recalls, and the difference is an obligation rather than a word: 'come here' moves the dog and costs nothing, 'come' obliges you to enforce it the moment it leaves your mouth. The reason to keep the weak one available is stated in full - a command you give and fail to enforce becomes optional, whatever the dog did to avoid it becomes his permanent answer to pressure, and he will come to believe that evasion is the solution to pressure itself. The handler then does it on camera, choosing the weaker cue because he did not want another repetition of the recall at that moment but did want the dog to give a stranger space. The same passage is repeated almost word for word in a second, viewer-facing session.
and they will think that is the solution to the pressure and you cannot allow that
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if you don't want to have to reinforce it which i didn't right there i didn't want to do another rep of the recall because i didn't think it would be beneficial at that point to do it but i did want him to give this guy plenty of space
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now an example of a formal recall would be kodak come and see now that i've said that i'm obligated to reinforce it if he doesn't come all the way to me
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And the reason that you might not give the actual command sometimes is because if you give the actual command, you must reinforce it. You must negatively reinforce it. It is not optional. you can never let commands become optional right
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Deuce
Deuce's file is where the two commands get their most practical workout and their loosest criterion. 'Come' fails against a retriever he has fixated on; 'let's go' is what breaks the fixation, and from then on the cue is the people tool - repeated dozens of times across a crowded stretch while almost no other command is used. The criterion is then relaxed explicitly, which owners routinely get wrong: he does not have to run in the handler's direction, he only has to stop fixating. The warning to the family is the one the handler says he gives everybody - do not use the two interchangeably - with the failure named concretely: say come while you are walking away and the dog gets confused. And his recall is never allowed to end loose: a sit is chained onto every repetition until his brain equates the two, which is checkable three weeks later when he drops into it by himself.
horrible deuce hey you're fixated okay there we go sounds like we're gonna have to work on some fixation issues deuce let's go let's go deuce let's go yeah there we go good let's go let's go
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interchangeably use let's go and come i haven't seen you do that a ton but it's just something
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with the dogs if every single time he sees a person you say let's go he starts to be like okay
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So, what we're doing there is every time I give him that recall, I tell him to sit right after.
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Stormie
Stormie's first in-program lesson teaches the pair side by side to her owner and then explains what the finished behaviour in the published videos actually is. Come means stop in front of me and stand there; let's go means unfixate and move along in my general direction. Then the part worth copying: the cue is given every single time they walk past a dog, so that the dog begins predicting it - which is why the result looks like a dog who does not care about other dogs, when what it is is a dog who has learned what happens next. Her go-home lesson uses the same cue as the answer to another animal instead of a correction, with the order of operations spelled out and the reason attached: a collar that arrives while she is running towards the animal teaches her the animal is bad news.
and i don't like her recall it's kind of hard to it's hard to train a recall in the room so that's again what i'm doing but a recall kind of looks like this if i go stormy come right and again she doesn't know it but she has to stop right here and stand in front of me
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go and then she immediately unfixates and follows along and it's the same thing with the dogs if i say let's go every single time we walk by a dog her brain starts to go well every time we walk by a dog he says let's go i'm going to predict it this time and so it just looks like a seamless i don't care about the dog okay right
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so I didn't like a recall when you say come right she actually has to come up and plop in front of you whereas the let's go is like a directional thing
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i tell people the dogs probably will test you when they see like other animals right so what you do to reinforce that is you give them the let's go and you don't want to hit the e-collar just when they start running the reason for that is if they if you hit the e-collar while they're running towards another animal what you can accidentally do is build a version so they learn that that thing's bad it's dangerous
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Roxy
Roxy's household is the one where the failure is diagnosed from the outside. Both trainers explain the pair independently at the first in-program lesson, the full command list is given as six words plus the release, and the informal 'come here' is marked as deliberately unenforced while 'Roxy, come' is enforced hard. Then the diagnostic story: on follow-up visits owners tell him the dog is not listening, he watches them, and they are using the commands interchangeably. Her own sessions supply the criterion in one line - the whole point of coming is that you come and you stay in my circle - reported about a repetition where she did not.
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sit down place heel come let's go
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she went, like, all the way over there, and I wasn't done, like, commanding her, and I said, eh, come, and she, like, looked back i was like come and she slowly came up and then she like she didn't stop by my area which you know the whole point of coming is like you come and you stay in my circle
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Bullet
Bullet's file demonstrates the formal-informal switch twice in one session, minutes apart, and names each one as it happens - which is the cheapest possible teaching of it. In a second session the informal cue is used to call him off another dog without spending the command at all. His walk session explains what the pair is for in practical terms: with a taught let's go and a taught recall the leash becomes a legal formality you never have to lock, which is the argument for the whole vocabulary in one sentence. And the two are swapped on purpose for reasons that have nothing to do with obedience - out of a heel into a let's go, because the handler did not want the leash caught under a tyre.
All right, I'm gonna actually do a formal recall
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Leave Savage alone. Bullet. Good boy. That's not a recall. It's informal, right? Good boy. Cuz I don't want to do a command right now.
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legal purposes you can have it on and never lock it so it's just an attachment bullet let's go
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so I switched him into a let's go out of the heel because I didn't want to get his leash stuck under a tire
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Dutchess
Dutchess's is the version taught to owners on their own question, and it is the most compact definition in the corpus: one word means come to me and sit right by me, the other means we are walking this way, move in my general direction without coming in. Her sessions use both throughout and keep them distinct, with let's go doing a specific diagnostic job - the first line of one session gives it to test whether she is fixating. Her file also holds the release rule that makes the recall's ending enforceable at all: get up before the release word and the command is broken, not finished.
Looks like it's fixating. So, let's see what happens if I give her Let's go.
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We're just going to be testing out all the commands and trying to basically communicate with her like she's a train dog. Let's go.
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Zeus
Zeus's go-home lesson gives the distinction with the mechanism by which misuse destroys the recall, and demonstrates both. The rule is absolute in one direction: never say come while you continue walking, because come means he comes to you and he is there. His sessions also show the cue doing its non-punitive job - when he stalls on the line, the answer is let's go first, before any correction, and only a brace-and-pull earns the marker. And one session catches the words getting crossed between two handlers, which is the everyday version of the whole problem: one of them says let's go where the other would have said okay, and the dog answers the other one.
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Let's go handsome dog. Hi Judy-chan, there you go, Zeus, Zeus, let's go, good boy, let's go, Zeus, eh eh, let's go, eh eh, let's go, come on, good boy, let's go
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Finn
Finn's file holds the line the existing site page is built on, and the reason it mattered for this particular dog: he is already in a unique state of mind and does not need to be confused. It is taught to the owner as a demonstration rather than a definition, and in the sessions the two cues are used distinctly without being explained - let's go to move off after a release, come for the recall repetitions. The same lesson adds the rule that protects the word for a nervous dog: one cue, a beat, and no stim stacked on each repetition.
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bo
Bo's handover separates the two by function - let's go as the redirection cue, come as come to you and ideally finish in a sit - and pairs it with a named, deliberate omission from the whole command set: they never use 'stay', because an implied stay removes the repetition that confuses dogs. That is what makes the release word carry the recall's ending in this method. Both cues are in the inventory given to bystanders in a second session, where the recall is worked with the collar being introduced as reinforcement and the level is announced out loud.
And then he'll sit because ideally he comes straight to you and sets
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You don't have to say stay ever. I don't know if you noticed that, but we don't use stay.
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Yeah, I turned it up slightly there because I thought he would probably ignore me. So that was on like a 35 or 40. I'll probably leave it on about a 35 right now just to, since there's a lot of distractions around, maybe a 40
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Luna
Luna's first in-program lesson names and demonstrates the pair for her owner, defines each against the other, and gives the same warning the Deuce lesson gives - that people accidentally interchange them and the dog gets confused. Her sessions then show let's go used as the redirect on a live distraction, which is exactly the use her go-home lesson recommends in place of a heel or a correction: a child on a bike arrives, the cue goes in, and the outcome is allowed to be the last thing that happens in the session.
All right. So, right here, I'll show off a command we've been working on. So, it's a let's go. So, a recall is like when she runs up to me and then stops, whereas a let's go is directional.
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a directional thing. Um, and I say that because it's important to know the difference because people can accidentally uh interchange them and then not use them, right? And the dog gets confused, right?
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So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna give her the, let's go. She was interested, but I got another person coming through.
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It's actually really good to end the session out with. I know you see people with them, but she can't act on it, right?
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Dolce
Dolce's contribution is the cleanest instance of the informal ask in the corpus, and it is declared afterwards rather than before: she did not disobey a command, because he did an informal recall on purpose - he knew she probably did not want to go that way and did not feel like making her, having just asked her for a lot. The rule behind it is stated as an argument about currency: if you are not prepared to back it, do not command it. Her whole command set is German, and 'let's go' runs alongside it in English as the informal move-on, which is why the two categories are visibly separate in her sessions.
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Yeah because I I just did the conditioned punisher before I just did uh uh before when the other guy was passing and she did that but this time Um, this time I got her for it because she needed, um, she needed to get a little bit more reinforcement there.
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Source excerpts
so i'll kind of like i'll demonstrate how the let's go works okay um there's let's go and there's come right and those are two commands and a lot of people don't use them right and they mix them up and then they confuse the dog and he doesn't need to be confused right at all he's already in a a unique state of mind he doesn't need to be confused
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people will use come like it's let's go and that messes up the recall right
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whereas the let's go is a directional thing where it's like stormy let's go and we're just going to kind of move in this like general direction it's more of just like a hey you're fixated on something
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the recall is often misused by owners because they accept something that kind of negates the purpose of the recall. The purpose of the recall is that now they're back and they're with you.
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the issue is that very often they will let the dog come to them and then go back to what they were doing. So like the dog came, but they didn't come and stay with you, which is problematic because if the dog is off leash and you're recalling them because you need them away from a certain thing, you need them come to you and kind of stay with you.
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So there's a different command if you just want them to move along with you or go in the direction you're going and they can fly right by you afterwards. and that's let's go
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she's doing this thing where like when I'm training a recall when they're almost done this is one thing they do and it's where they'll come up to you and you'll be like recall right and they keep going and they keep going and then they like wrap around and come back right what you want is like a recall that they come up to you and then it stops there and then like a sit is at the end of it
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at worst they have to come to you and just wait for further instruction and then like if you said come even if they like 45 seconds later you're still standing there they should stay there yeah they shouldn't like leave the area they should be right in here yeah they should be right in this area and then you use the release command so you say okay and then they're ready they're they're good to go they know they can leave
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which you know the whole point of coming is like you come and you stay in my circle
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if you give the actual command, you must reinforce it. You must negatively reinforce it. It is not optional. You can never let commands become optional, right? Because whatever thing they did to avoid doing the command, they will repeat in the future right they will do it again and again and again and again because it works
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This is an informal recall, so I'm not reinforcing it.
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So I'm not going to say save com because then I'd have to make sure she came, right? Because otherwise she might be like, well, so I don't always have to come if he says no, you know what I mean? Right. Um, then it becomes optional.
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He doesn't have to, like, freaking run in my direction as long as he stops fixating.
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i stress to everybody because if you say come while you're going this way the dog get confused
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You're mixing yours up today. So the come always ends in a sit.
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And eventually after I give him that recall over and over, okay, and I tell him to sit, what happens is his brain like equates the two together.
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How the trainers explain it
The stated mechanism is about what the word predicts. A cue used for two different outcomes stops predicting either, so the dog is left guessing - 'they mix them up and then they confuse the dog' (JvNqp0YKO7M 10:11) - and the cost is paid in the one situation the recall exists for, which is when you need the dog away from something (3bqg175QFSA 39:45). The recall's ending has its own mechanism: the command is defined to include staying, because a dog who touches base and resumes has given you nothing you can use (G-c3ofWH0HA 04:12), and the release word rather than the dog's own judgement is what ends it (AJpjdMolHEI 22:36) - which is also why this method never uses 'stay' at all (Rse9I-CW35g 28:01). The formal-informal split rests on a claim about extinction and avoidance: a command you fail to enforce becomes optional, and whatever the dog did to avoid it is what he will do again, because it worked - and he will generalise it into a solution to pressure (acb6qFCsYww 16:34, 17:03). So an unenforced cue is not neutral, it is training. The last mechanism is prediction as a positive tool: given the same cue every single time a dog appears, the dog starts predicting it, and what the viewer then sees is a dog who looks indifferent (60YpxVWYv20 13:08). What is inferred rather than said: the corpus never addresses the tension between telling families that mixing two clearly different words ruins both, and then handing them two words that differ by one syllable - 'come' and 'come here' - with opposite obligations. Nor does anyone say what happens when a household member uses the name as an attention noise in a house where the name is a recall; it is caught once, apologised for, and never followed up.
Differences to review
What ends the recall - arriving, or a sit.
First perspective
A sit, every time. The recall is not allowed to end loose, so the sit is chained onto every repetition until the dog offers it uncued, and in one household the rule is stated flatly: the come always ends in a sit.
So, what we're doing there is every time I give him that recall, I tell him to sit right after.
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You're mixing yours up today. So the come always ends in a sit.
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she's doing this thing where like when I'm training a recall when they're almost done this is one thing they do and it's where they'll come up to you and you'll be like recall right and they keep going and they keep going and then they like wrap around and come back right what you want is like a recall that they come up to you and then it stops there and then like a sit is at the end of it
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Second perspective
No position is required. The dog comes all the way in and stays in the small area by the handler until the release - standing, sitting or lying down, it does not matter - and the criterion is the area and the release word, not the posture.
at worst they have to come to you and just wait for further instruction and then like if you said come even if they like 45 seconds later you're still standing there they should stay there yeah they shouldn't like leave the area they should be right in here yeah they should be right in this area and then you use the release command so you say okay and then they're ready they're they're good to go they know they can leave
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How to read this comparison
Two clear house rules, never put side by side. Bo's handover sits between them - 'ideally he comes straight to you and sets' - and Bo's own file elsewhere is the one that insists some arrivals must carry no demand at all, which is a third position again. The practical consequence for a family is whether a standing dog in front of them counts as a completed recall, and the corpus answers that both ways.
Whether the dog's name is a recall.
First perspective
It is. In one household hearing his name means come over, so saying it to get his attention is spending the recall - caught live as a handler error the moment it happened.
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Second perspective
It is an address, not a command - the prefix that tells one dog of two that the next word is for him, and, in one owner lesson, the cue for getting a dog to disengage from a person without spending anything.
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Say her name. Okay. Yeah. Just say her name. So going to she should be just like cruising along indifferent to people.
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How to read this comparison
Both practices are in use and both are coherent on their own; what does not exist anywhere is an instruction to families about which one their dog was trained on. A household that treats the name as an attention noise in a dog trained the first way is spending the recall dozens of times a day without knowing it.
What 'let's go' actually requires.
First perspective
Movement towards the handler, loosely - move in my general direction, or come to me and sit right by me on one telling, or catch up if you are behind.
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so if they're behind me I'm gonna use a let's go so they catch up if they're in front of me unless I'm changing direction and turning back I'm not gonna use let's go I'm just gonna use the recall
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Second perspective
Nothing except disengagement. The dog does not have to move towards the handler at all; the success criterion is that he stops fixating.
He doesn't have to, like, freaking run in my direction as long as he stops fixating.
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whereas the let's go is a directional thing where it's like stormy let's go and we're just going to kind of move in this like general direction it's more of just like a hey you're fixated on something
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How to read this comparison
The looser criterion is stated by a handler working a dog whose problem is fixation, and the tighter one by a handler teaching a dog with no impulse-control problem, so it may be a deliberate per-dog setting. Nobody says so. It matters because a family holding the tight criterion will correct a dog who has in fact done what the other handler asked.
What the current concept page says, against what the corpus now supports.
First perspective
The existing page text: 'Let's go' means move with me, 'Come' means come to me, they are different commands, and handlers who use them interchangeably teach the dog that neither means anything in particular. Its quote is given as 'There's "let's go" and there's "come", right? Those are two commands. And a lot of people don't use them right, and they mix them up, and then they confuse the dog. And he doesn't need to be confused at all.', sourced to Finn's JvNqp0YKO7M at 10:16 and attributed to Connor.
so i'll kind of like i'll demonstrate how the let's go works okay um there's let's go and there's come right and those are two commands and a lot of people don't use them right and they mix them up and then they confuse the dog and he doesn't need to be confused right at all he's already in a a unique state of mind he doesn't need to be confused
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Second perspective
Right as far as it goes, and it stops at the vocabulary. Four things are superseded. First, the page's headline quote is tidied - punctuated, capitalised and trimmed - and the verbatim line runs on past where the page ends it, with the clause that explains why it mattered for this dog. Second, the page says nothing about the recall having an ending, which is the half owners actually break: the dog who arrives, is praised and resumes, and the specific fault of passing the handler's side. Third, it says nothing about formal versus informal, which is the corpus's own answer to the problem the page names - a handler who decides before calling whether he will enforce it does not wear the word out. Fourth, the criterion for 'let's go' is narrower on the page than on film: in two dogs' files it requires nothing but disengagement. The attribution to Connor is consistent with the Finn synthesis, which reaches it by third-party evidence rather than by the transcript naming him.
the issue is that very often they will let the dog come to them and then go back to what they were doing. So like the dog came, but they didn't come and stay with you, which is problematic because if the dog is off leash and you're recalling them because you need them away from a certain thing, you need them come to you and kind of stay with you.
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if you give the actual command, you must reinforce it. You must negatively reinforce it. It is not optional. You can never let commands become optional, right? Because whatever thing they did to avoid doing the command, they will repeat in the future right they will do it again and again and again and again because it works
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He doesn't have to, like, freaking run in my direction as long as he stops fixating.
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How to read this comparison
Recorded rather than resolved; rewriting the page is the owner's decision and the id and URL are kept either way. The tidied quote is the one item that should be corrected regardless of what else changes, because the shape it is in now is not on the track.
Questions and answers
What exactly does each word mean?
The recurring distinction is destination versus direction. In King’s lesson, come means returning to the handler’s area and remaining there (vxn1_xHg6VM, 11:15). Let’s go asks the dog to move along with the handler rather than necessarily finish at that close destination. Louie’s trainer illustrates choosing between the cues according to the dog’s position and the handler’s direction (G-c3ofWH0HA, 06:04). Exact finishing positions and release words should come from the dog’s own lesson; not every example asks for the same posture.
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so if they're behind me I'm gonna use a let's go so they catch up if they're in front of me unless I'm changing direction and turning back I'm not gonna use let's go I'm just gonna use the recall
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Does it really matter if I mix them up?
Consistent meanings help the dog distinguish the two requests. King’s trainer explains that a recall may be needed to bring the dog away from somewhere it should not remain (3bqg175QFSA, 39:45). Roxy’s trainer reports seeing owners use the cues interchangeably on follow-up visits (z5Wm7r2lSCI, 28:57). Those accounts explain why the distinction matters in this program. If a response changes, compare the words, movement and expected finish rather than assuming cue confusion is the only possible cause.
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i stress to everybody because if you say come while you're going this way the dog get confused
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My dog comes when I call but then wanders off. Is that a recall?
No, and this is the half most owners have never been told. The recall is defined to include staying: the dog stops in front of you and stays in the small area by you - even forty-five seconds later, if you are still standing there - until the release word, and if he drifts he is told and brought back. The specific fault to watch for is the dog who comes up, keeps going, wraps around and comes back, and the line where it becomes a fault is when he passes your side. One household's rule is that the come always ends in a sit; another requires no position at all, only the area and the release. Either way, the thing that ends the recall is your word rather than his decision - and when you release him, tell him to go, because a dog who was once told off for leaving early will stand there waiting.
and I don't care if it's like in the front or to the side it's mainly like once they pass the side that's typically where it's a problem
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at worst they have to come to you and just wait for further instruction and then like if you said come even if they like 45 seconds later you're still standing there they should stay there yeah they shouldn't like leave the area they should be right in here yeah they should be right in this area and then you use the release command so you say okay and then they're ready they're they're good to go they know they can leave
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normally what i'll do is like again it's all about clarity so if i say you know like say come or Ramsey come and then they get here and they stay there for a second and then I say okay and they just they they don't leave I go okay and I go go go I'll encourage them I'm like get out of here like you're free
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What is the difference between 'come' and 'come here'?
An obligation. 'Come here' is an invitation that costs nothing if it is ignored; 'come' is a command, and the moment it leaves your mouth you owe the dog enforcement. The reason to keep the weak one available is spelled out: a command you do not enforce becomes optional, whatever the dog did to avoid it is what he will do again because it worked, and he will come to treat that evasion as the answer to pressure in general. So a handler who does not want to spend a repetition uses the informal form on purpose - one says out loud afterwards that the dog did not disobey a command, because he never gave one. The practical version for an owner is to decide before you open your mouth: if you are not going to go and make it happen, say 'come here'.
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now an example of a formal recall would be kodak come and see now that i've said that i'm obligated to reinforce it if he doesn't come all the way to me
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So I'm not going to say save com because then I'd have to make sure she came, right? Because otherwise she might be like, well, so I don't always have to come if he says no, you know what I mean? Right. Um, then it becomes optional.
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My dog stares at other dogs on walks. Which word do I use, and when does the collar come in?
The cue first, and this order is the most consequential technical point in the corpus for a nervous dog. If you correct while he is fixating on the dog, with no command given, the pressure attaches to the dog he was looking at, and what he learns is that other dogs are dangerous. If you say let's go and then correct, the pressure attaches to not listening. Those are, in one handler's words, two very different worlds - and another puts the timescale on the damage: he does not want the dog coming back in a year as a nervous case. The instruction owners are given is to say let's go every single time they pass a dog, so the dog starts predicting the cue, and only to back it if she ignores it.
So like there's what he's describing is a difference between negative reinforcement and a penalty. Right? So one is pressure to do a command. The other one is a penalty for a bad thing they did.
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You don't want to build, like, unnecessary nervousness and fear because I don't want Stormy to come back a year from now and be a nervous case.
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go and then she immediately unfixates and follows along and it's the same thing with the dogs if i say let's go every single time we walk by a dog her brain starts to go well every time we walk by a dog he says let's go i'm going to predict it this time and so it just looks like a seamless i don't care about the dog okay right
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Shouldn't I just keep him in a heel so he can't get into trouble?
The trainers argue against it, and the argument is about the dog's day rather than about obedience: hold him in a heel for the whole walk and you have given him a boring walk. The heel has a job - temporarily keeping him close while something specific is happening, a crowd, a passing cyclist, a narrow pavement - and outside that the pair of cues is what does the work, with the dog free to sniff and explore in between. One handler puts the same point as a practical consequence: with a taught let's go and a taught recall, the leash stops being a steering wheel and becomes a formality you never lock.
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but if you use it for things right um heel is very useful it's useful in my opinion for temporarily keeping him close to you while something else is happening that you need him close to you for right so like crowded area
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legal purposes you can have it on and never lock it so it's just an attachment bullet let's go
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Teaching outline
The handler can use two movement cues and two recalls without spending either: declaring before each call whether it is formal, holding the recall until the release, and choosing let's go rather than come whenever the dog is only required to move along.
11:02
Both cues defined and demonstrated for an owner, ending on 'do not mix the two'.
03:42
The recall's purpose and the fly-by failure named, with the positional rule for choosing between the cues.
07:21
The formal-informal switch demonstrated twice in one session, each one named as it happens.
22:36
The recall's ending specified, including the forty-five-second version and the active release.
37:14
Why the cue must precede the correction: penalty against negative reinforcement, in one passage.
Walk a route with distractions on a long line. Every time the dog needs to move and nothing more - past a person, off a smell, when you change direction - use let's go, and accept disengagement as success. Reserve come for the moments you actually need him with you, and before each one say aloud whether it is formal; if you are not going to make it happen, use 'come here' and let it go. On a formal recall, wait until he has stopped in front of you and hold him there with nothing but the implied stay - do not say stay - then release him with your word and tell him to go. When he fixates, give the cue before any correction, every time, until he predicts the cue. Count, at the end, how many formal recalls you gave and how many you enforced. (King vxn1_xHg6VM and 3bqg175QFSA; Louie G-c3ofWH0HA; Sage AJpjdMolHEI and _dxIVlI-YCM; Bullet KbhHM97mFdg; Kodak acb6qFCsYww.)
Saying come while walking away from the dog (5K5ivI_ocfg 26:27; FIORySoF90o 09:39).
Letting the arrival end the recall instead of the release word (G-c3ofWH0HA 04:12).
Giving a formal recall you were not prepared to enforce (_dxIVlI-YCM 39:34).
Correcting the fixation before the cue, which attaches the pressure to the trigger (biFPNDgXsQY 37:14).
Using the dog's name to get a look, in a household where the name is a recall (bQYBSs7lRYM 34:04).
Skipping the cue sometimes, which is what stops the dog predicting it (60YpxVWYv20 13:08).
Saying 'stay' at all, which adds a word the method deliberately does not use (Rse9I-CW35g 28:01).
Your dog is thirty feet ahead, sniffing a post, and you want to carry on walking the way you were already going. Which cue, and why not the other one? (Let's go. He is in front of you and you are not changing direction, and nothing about the situation requires him with you - so a recall here spends the word you will need when something is actually wrong.)
Common mistakes
Saying come when they mean let's go, which teaches the dog that come allows a fly-by.
Okay, King come, and then he comes, but his come is, he goes by me. Right? Like a let's go.
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Saying come while walking away from the dog.
i stress to everybody because if you say come while you're going this way the dog get confused
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Counting the recall as finished when the dog arrives, and letting him resume what he was doing.
the recall is often misused by owners because they accept something that kind of negates the purpose of the recall. The purpose of the recall is that now they're back and they're with you.
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which you know the whole point of coming is like you come and you stay in my circle
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Calling the dog casually all day and enforcing none of it, so the word becomes optional.
This is an informal recall, so I'm not reinforcing it.
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then it becomes optional
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Using the dog's name as an attention noise in a household where the name is a recall.
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Correcting the dog for fixating before giving him the cue - which attaches the collar to the thing he was looking at instead of to a disobeyed command.
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So if she's in her fear cycle and she sees, like, some geese or something, like a dog you're walking by, and you just hit that e-collar and you don't, like, say let's go or anything, she'll just learn that those animals are bad news.
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Holding the dog in a heel for the whole walk, instead of using the two cues and letting him be a dog in between.
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Releasing the dog with one word while somebody else in the household uses a different one.
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What to notice
He comes when you call and then walks straight off again, and you had been counting that as a recall.
the issue is that very often they will let the dog come to them and then go back to what they were doing. So like the dog came, but they didn't come and stay with you, which is problematic because if the dog is off leash and you're recalling them because you need them away from a certain thing, you need them come to you and kind of stay with you.
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He runs up to you, keeps going, loops around and comes back.
she's doing this thing where like when I'm training a recall when they're almost done this is one thing they do and it's where they'll come up to you and you'll be like recall right and they keep going and they keep going and then they like wrap around and come back right what you want is like a recall that they come up to you and then it stops there and then like a sit is at the end of it
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You say his name a lot during a walk and he has stopped reacting to it.
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Your dog 'does not listen' - and you have noticed you use come and let's go for the same thing.
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He locks on to another dog or a person and you have been calling him rather than moving him along.
horrible deuce hey you're fixated okay there we go sounds like we're gonna have to work on some fixation issues deuce let's go let's go deuce let's go yeah there we go good let's go let's go
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He gets up and leaves whenever he feels like it, and you have been saying 'stay' to stop him.
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You don't have to say stay ever. I don't know if you noticed that, but we don't use stay.
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Two people in your household use different release words, and the dog answers one of them.
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Trainer notes
Three distinctions, not one. Cue: let's go is movement with the handler and the dog may pass and carry on; come is all the way in and stay until the release. Ending: the recall is not finished on arrival - the criterion is stopping in front and staying in the handler's area until the release word, with a drift told and brought back, and the handler actively encouraging the dog out on release so the release is not read as a trap (AJpjdMolHEI 23:01). Obligation: decide before calling whether the call is formal and say so; informal is unenforced by design, formal is enforced the instant it is disobeyed, because an unenforced command becomes optional and the evasion generalises (acb6qFCsYww 16:34). Order of operations for a fixation, which is the piece with the largest downside if it is wrong: cue first, correction only for ignoring the cue - a collar delivered at the sight of the trigger builds an aversion to the trigger (biFPNDgXsQY 37:14; VRyDgbvW1cg 36:17). Never say come while walking away (FIORySoF90o 09:39; 5K5ivI_ocfg 26:27). Never use the name as an attention noise where the name is a recall (bQYBSs7lRYM 34:12). Build prediction deliberately: the cue every single time the trigger appears, so the dog anticipates it and the result looks like indifference (60YpxVWYv20 13:08). 'Stay' is not in the command set, because the implied stay carries it and repeating 'stay' is what confuses dogs (Rse9I-CW35g 28:01). Heel is for temporarily holding the dog close while something specific happens, not for the walk (3bqg175QFSA 41:08). Unresolved and to be settled deliberately rather than by habit: whether the recall ends in a sit (Deuce, Lola) or in any position inside the handler's area (Sage, King); whether the name is a command or an address; and whether let's go requires movement towards the handler or only disengagement (Deuce's criterion is the looser one).
By trainer
Connor
Demonstrates rather than defines: shows the let's go working, then names the pair and the mistake, with the reason specific to the dog in front of him - he is already in a unique state of mind and does not need more confusion. Pairs it in the same lesson with the latency rule that protects the word, and with the caution that there is a fine line between asking enough that it is real work and asking so much that the dog shuts down.
so i'll kind of like i'll demonstrate how the let's go works okay um there's let's go and there's come right and those are two commands and a lot of people don't use them right and they mix them up and then they confuse the dog and he doesn't need to be confused right at all he's already in a a unique state of mind he doesn't need to be confused
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it's like people who are like my kids are great but i just give them whatever they want it's like well yeah i guess they probably are happy but
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Kelton
Named in the third person by two other handlers as the source of the formal-versus-informal distinction they are passing on to families - in Lola's go-home lesson it is introduced explicitly as 'what Kelton was talking about'. The rule as it reaches the owners is a pair of categories rather than a technique: 'come here', which is not a command, and the formal recall, which is enforced hard.
So, that's what Kelton was talking about. There's like the informal recall, which is just like, "Hey, come here." And then there's like RG come, which is like that has to be reinforced.
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Equipment context
E-collar
The backup for an ignored cue, with the level set for the environment and raised in advance when a failure is expected, announced out loud. Its placement is the whole technical point of this concept: it follows the cue, never the sight of the trigger, or it teaches an aversion to the trigger instead of an obligation to the word.
Yeah, I turned it up slightly there because I thought he would probably ignore me. So that was on like a 35 or 40. I'll probably leave it on about a 35 right now just to, since there's a lot of distractions around, maybe a 40
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i tell people the dogs probably will test you when they see like other animals right so what you do to reinforce that is you give them the let's go and you don't want to hit the e-collar just when they start running the reason for that is if they if you hit the e-collar while they're running towards another animal what you can accidentally do is build a version so they learn that that thing's bad it's dangerous
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Retractable lead, never locked
With a taught let's go and a taught recall, the lead stops being a steering wheel: it is left unlocked and kept on as a legal formality rather than as the thing moving the dog. One handler makes the same point as a reframe for owners - think of it as a prop, and give every instruction by word first.
way that you can move them along on the walk without having to use the leash so
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but i want you to instead think of this as just like a prop so this leash is there so that you're connected to the dog just in case and so that nobody can say nothing right but i don't want you to think of it as like the primary thing that you do to get him to do things or move places right
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The release word, in place of 'stay'
The command holds until the word, and 'stay' is deliberately absent from the whole command set, because repeating it is what confuses dogs. That is what makes the recall's ending enforceable: the dog who gets up before the word has broken a command rather than finished one.
problem, which is having to say stay a thousand times because people say, stay, stay, stay, stay,
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Settings
Deuce
a crowded stretch chosen for the density of people, where let's go did nearly all the work
10:30
Rocko
Hillsborough Street in downtown Raleigh, during a two-handler outing with Rocko and the second handler's dog; the handlers discuss crossed markers
28:29
Zeus
the stone houses, on a walk where let's go was the session's main cue
00:39
Owner accounts
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I have never seen his tail wag this much.
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Candidate clips
people will use come like it's let's go and that messes up the recall right
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the issue is that very often they will let the dog come to them and then go back to what they were doing. So like the dog came, but they didn't come and stay with you, which is problematic because if the dog is off leash and you're recalling them because you need them away from a certain thing, you need them come to you and kind of stay with you.
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she's doing this thing where like when I'm training a recall when they're almost done this is one thing they do and it's where they'll come up to you and you'll be like recall right and they keep going and they keep going and then they like wrap around and come back right what you want is like a recall that they come up to you and then it stops there and then like a sit is at the end of it
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if you give the actual command, you must reinforce it. You must negatively reinforce it. It is not optional. You can never let commands become optional, right? Because whatever thing they did to avoid doing the command, they will repeat in the future right they will do it again and again and again and again because it works
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This is an informal recall, so I'm not reinforcing it.
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go and then she immediately unfixates and follows along and it's the same thing with the dogs if i say let's go every single time we walk by a dog her brain starts to go well every time we walk by a dog he says let's go i'm going to predict it this time and so it just looks like a seamless i don't care about the dog okay right
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we're walking and then i change direction i go this way now king let's go that's when you use let's go right you don't use come then
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He doesn't have to, like, freaking run in my direction as long as he stops fixating.
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at worst they have to come to you and just wait for further instruction and then like if you said come even if they like 45 seconds later you're still standing there they should stay there yeah they shouldn't like leave the area they should be right in here yeah they should be right in this area and then you use the release command so you say okay and then they're ready they're they're good to go they know they can leave
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You don't have to say stay ever. I don't know if you noticed that, but we don't use stay.
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Source moments
Case story beats
King
A handler is mid-sentence teaching a family that the dog's name is itself a recall, when somebody in the group says the name to get him to look up - and apologises before he can finish the point. The rule and the violation land in the same ten seconds, with the dog in front of them.
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Roxy
A trainer explains the two words to a household, and then tells them how he knows it matters: every so often he gets called back to a follow-up because the dog has stopped listening, he watches the family for a minute, and there it is - the commands used interchangeably. Huh, he says. That's why.
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Dolce
A protection dog declines to go the way she was asked, and instead of correcting her the handler turns to the camera to say that nothing was disobeyed - he had chosen an informal ask on purpose, because he knew she did not want to and had already asked her for a great deal. A trainer refusing to spend a command he was not willing to enforce, and putting it on the record.
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Stormie
In a kennel room where a recall is almost impossible to train, a handler demonstrates both words to an owner - and then explains what the finished dogs in the videos are actually doing. Not ignoring other dogs. Predicting a cue their handler never once skipped.
and i don't like her recall it's kind of hard to it's hard to train a recall in the room so that's again what i'm doing but a recall kind of looks like this if i go stormy come right and again she doesn't know it but she has to stop right here and stand in front of me
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go and then she immediately unfixates and follows along and it's the same thing with the dogs if i say let's go every single time we walk by a dog her brain starts to go well every time we walk by a dog he says let's go i'm going to predict it this time and so it just looks like a seamless i don't care about the dog okay right
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Questions for intake
What words do you already use, and what does each one mean to you? Write them down. Roxy's lesson gives the household six commands plus a release, and the commonest failure on follow-up is a family running two of them together - which is a vocabulary problem the intake could have caught before the dog arrived.
When you call him, what do you expect him to do - come to you, or come over and carry on? Most families have never been asked to state the criterion, and the answer decides which word they have actually been training.
What do you say to release him? And does everyone in the house say the same word? One session catches two handlers crossing 'let's go' and 'okay' on the same dog; in a household it will happen daily.
Do you use his name to get his attention? In one household the name is a recall, so this question is the difference between a word that works and a word the family has spent.
When you call him and he ignores you, what do you do? If the answer is 'call again', the formal-informal rule is the first thing this family needs, and it is not on the form at all.
Does anybody say 'stay'? The method does not use the word, and a family who arrives using it has a habit to unlearn rather than a skill to add.
Which of your commands has stopped working? A cue that has gone soft is the observable for this whole concept, and the form's reliability grid records what the dog can do rather than what has decayed.
Still to establish
Does the recall end in a sit or not? Two house rules are in use - a sit on every repetition until it is automatic, and no position required so long as the dog stays in the handler's area until the release. Families are being told both, and neither handler knows the other is saying the opposite.
Is the dog's name a recall or an address? One session treats it as a command and calls out a handler for spending it; two others use it as a prefix and as an attention cue. Nothing tells a household which their dog was trained on, and it is the cue a family uses more often than any other.
What does 'let's go' actually require - movement towards the handler, or only disengagement? The looser criterion is stated about a fixating dog and the tighter one about a dog without that problem, which may be deliberate. Nobody says so.
The corpus asks families to keep two clearly different words apart, and in the same breath gives them two words that differ by one syllable with opposite obligations. Does anyone track whether households actually hold 'come' and 'come here' apart, and is there a follow-up that would show it?
Does the formal-informal split survive the handover? It is taught in at least five dogs' lessons, and the only evidence of what owners do with it is one handler's report that on follow-up visits he finds them using the commands interchangeably.
Bo's handover states that 'stay' is not used at all, which is what makes the release word carry the recall's ending. Is that house doctrine across every dog, and is it ever explained to families who arrive already using 'stay'?
Speaker attribution for the existing page's source line is Connor, reached by third-party evidence rather than by the transcript naming him. Kelton could confirm it in a minute of listening, and the page carries his name today.
Source limitations
Speaker identity is unrecoverable on most of these tracks. The one named attribution behind this concept - Connor as the speaker of Finn's JvNqp0YKO7M and 0JRh17nttVw - rests on third-party statements elsewhere in the Finn set rather than on the transcript naming him; the Finn synthesis records that he never states his own name on any track.
Roxy's z5Wm7r2lSCI 29:46 quote is the one place in this file where the speaker matters and cannot be settled: it reads as an owner comparing two forms of the cue, inside a passage the Tier 1 note files under the trainer's teaching. It is used here as evidence that the name works as an address, which holds either way, and it is not listed under owner words for that reason.
Lola's ZEciHUYwNgs 04:49 - 'You're mixing yours up today' - is addressed to somebody in the session and the track does not say who. It is quoted for the house rule in its second clause.
King's bQYBSs7lRYM and vxn1_xHg6VM carry two speakers with no turn markers, so the exchange at 34:04 reads as two people and the apology cannot be assigned with certainty.
Deuce's 5K5ivI_ocfg 26:24 and 27:41 quotes each break mid-sentence where the cue ends; the sense continues in the adjacent cue and is not stitched in.
Zeus's FIORySoF90o 09:39 opens with 'the reason I said and was because', where 'and' is the track's rendering of a cue word. Reproduced as it stands.
The existing concept page's headline quote for this id does not appear in that shape on the track it cites. The verbatim line is at JvNqp0YKO7M 10:11 and is longer, unpunctuated and unbroken.
Connected library collections
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