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Train for the pair’s actual life together while keeping each dog’s cues, rules and needs distinct.
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Answer
Roxy and Ramsey’s progress is discussed as behavior together in the home, not only two separate obedience inventories. Their household lesson asks whether indoor play is wanted and explains why a rule that changes as soon as the second dog joins can be confusing. The owners’ preference supplies the boundary; it is not a rule every two-dog home must adopt.
Individual addressing matters too. The trainer catches himself forgetting that Ramsey’s release includes the dog’s name. A loose release word can invite both dogs to move when only one was intended. Lola’s dossier contains a related plan to call one dog from a cot while the other remains, but the cited sentence is a plan for tomorrow, not a filmed completion of that progression.
The pair still contains two different learners. The Roxy/Ramsey lesson describes different household needs and later puts Roxy away for Ramsey’s individual work. Equipment and walking arrangements in those lessons are specific to their training and handler capability. This draft does not generalize shared collar levels, dropped leashes or an off-leash demonstration into a rule for other pairs.
Owner takeaway
Practice the routines you will use with both dogs, including individual names and releases, and keep a separate record of each dog’s rules, assistance and remaining challenges.
Across the cases
Roxy
The pair’s behavior is reported together, while household play preferences and the separate needs of Roxy and Ramsey are discussed explicitly.
so they have pretty much learned everything they need to learn so far and the behavior together in the house is much much calmer significantly better
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demonstrate the difference between how they were a couple weeks ago and how they are now when it comes to being together in the house and listen to commands.
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now, so another thing to make it easier for them is I'll ask, do you want them to play in the house at all? No. All right. So then like they can play with their toys on their own. So that's what I would say is if you don't want them to play in the house, it's much easier for them to separate the context.
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If they start playing with that toy, they're playing with that toy. Now they're going to be romping and they're going to be like biting each other and playing, right? So then just don't let them play with toys in the house, right?
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Because it's going to be frustrating for them if you like let them play with a toy by themselves, but then as soon as the other one joins in, then it's like
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Especially Roxy. Ramsey, up to you. He does listen pretty well in the house already.
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Roxy does too, but she needs reinforcement every once in a while, especially with you guys, she's gonna need it. So just have her, I would have her wear it throughout the day, every day for a while.
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maybe we can just try it with Ramsay. Roxy. Sure. Yeah, I can put her up and then we can do the the walk around thing with Ramsay real quick.
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ramsey okay see i keep forgetting that i trained that okay to be a ramsey okay not just okay which is good
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Lola
Calling one dog off while the other holds is named as a future exercise. Couch permission and cot work remain separate questions.
Now the thing is and I'll work with them tomorrow. And then have them settle and then call one off if the other one stays on the cot. But that's tomorrow's challenge for them.
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And they are always allowed on the couch. Okay, okay. Absolutely. They are couch certified.
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We've down and settled as two separate things. The settle was I put them on there and wait for them to lay down on their own. I call that a settle.
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Source excerpts
so they have pretty much learned everything they need to learn so far and the behavior together in the house is much much calmer significantly better
Watch at 01:12 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
demonstrate the difference between how they were a couple weeks ago and how they are now when it comes to being together in the house and listen to commands.
Watch at 00:00 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
now, so another thing to make it easier for them is I'll ask, do you want them to play in the house at all? No. All right. So then like they can play with their toys on their own. So that's what I would say is if you don't want them to play in the house, it's much easier for them to separate the context.
Watch at 29:48 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
If they start playing with that toy, they're playing with that toy. Now they're going to be romping and they're going to be like biting each other and playing, right? So then just don't let them play with toys in the house, right?
Watch at 30:27 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
Because it's going to be frustrating for them if you like let them play with a toy by themselves, but then as soon as the other one joins in, then it's like
Watch at 30:45 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
Especially Roxy. Ramsey, up to you. He does listen pretty well in the house already.
Watch at 34:44 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
Roxy does too, but she needs reinforcement every once in a while, especially with you guys, she's gonna need it. So just have her, I would have her wear it throughout the day, every day for a while.
Watch at 34:51 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
maybe we can just try it with Ramsay. Roxy. Sure. Yeah, I can put her up and then we can do the the walk around thing with Ramsay real quick.
Watch at 00:43 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
ramsey okay see i keep forgetting that i trained that okay to be a ramsey okay not just okay which is good
Watch at 19:17 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
Now the thing is and I'll work with them tomorrow. And then have them settle and then call one off if the other one stays on the cot. But that's tomorrow's challenge for them.
Watch at 10:53 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
And they are always allowed on the couch. Okay, okay. Absolutely. They are couch certified.
Watch at 08:49 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
We've down and settled as two separate things. The settle was I put them on there and wait for them to lay down on their own. I call that a settle.
Watch at 07:51 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
How the trainers explain it
The second dog changes the available distractions and consequences. Individual cueing separates who should act, while pair practice examines the interaction that isolated sessions cannot reproduce.
so they have pretty much learned everything they need to learn so far and the behavior together in the house is much much calmer significantly better
Watch at 01:12 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
now, so another thing to make it easier for them is I'll ask, do you want them to play in the house at all? No. All right. So then like they can play with their toys on their own. So that's what I would say is if you don't want them to play in the house, it's much easier for them to separate the context.
Watch at 29:48 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
Because it's going to be frustrating for them if you like let them play with a toy by themselves, but then as soon as the other one joins in, then it's like
Watch at 30:45 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
maybe we can just try it with Ramsay. Roxy. Sure. Yeah, I can put her up and then we can do the the walk around thing with Ramsay real quick.
Watch at 00:43 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
ramsey okay see i keep forgetting that i trained that okay to be a ramsey okay not just okay which is good
Watch at 19:17 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
Now the thing is and I'll work with them tomorrow. And then have them settle and then call one off if the other one stays on the cot. But that's tomorrow's challenge for them.
Watch at 10:53 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
This is a synthesis of the cited training record, not a controlled comparison or a measurement of the dog’s internal state.
Questions and answers
Must both dogs have identical rules?
The shared Roxy and Ramsey lessons allow different support for each dog. In one home discussion, the trainer distinguishes what each currently needs (1go3hQlA5Ag, 34:44–34:51). Another session switches to working with one dog separately (hJqg1I6_6z8, 00:43). The useful distinction is between a household’s goals and the help each animal needs to reach them. Shared sessions should not make one dog’s response stand in for the other’s.
Especially Roxy. Ramsey, up to you. He does listen pretty well in the house already.
Watch at 34:44 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
Roxy does too, but she needs reinforcement every once in a while, especially with you guys, she's gonna need it. So just have her, I would have her wear it throughout the day, every day for a while.
Watch at 34:51 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
maybe we can just try it with Ramsay. Roxy. Sure. Yeah, I can put her up and then we can do the the walk around thing with Ramsay real quick.
Watch at 00:43 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
Does planning the split-cot exercise prove they can do it?
No. The cited Lola passage clearly describes tomorrow’s challenge; completion needs another source.
Now the thing is and I'll work with them tomorrow. And then have them settle and then call one off if the other one stays on the cot. But that's tomorrow's challenge for them.
Watch at 10:53 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
Teaching outline
Train for the pair’s actual life together while keeping each dog’s cues, rules and needs distinct.
Watch a two-dog lesson and identify the intended recipient of every cue and release. Note whether the other dog’s behavior changes and whether the response was actually requested.
so they have pretty much learned everything they need to learn so far and the behavior together in the house is much much calmer significantly better
Watch at 01:12 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
now, so another thing to make it easier for them is I'll ask, do you want them to play in the house at all? No. All right. So then like they can play with their toys on their own. So that's what I would say is if you don't want them to play in the house, it's much easier for them to separate the context.
Watch at 29:48 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
Because it's going to be frustrating for them if you like let them play with a toy by themselves, but then as soon as the other one joins in, then it's like
Watch at 30:45 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
maybe we can just try it with Ramsay. Roxy. Sure. Yeah, I can put her up and then we can do the the walk around thing with Ramsay real quick.
Watch at 00:43 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
ramsey okay see i keep forgetting that i trained that okay to be a ramsey okay not just okay which is good
Watch at 19:17 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
Now the thing is and I'll work with them tomorrow. And then have them settle and then call one off if the other one stays on the cot. But that's tomorrow's challenge for them.
Watch at 10:53 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
Did the wrong dog move, or did the person give a cue that could reasonably address both?
Trainer notes
The second dog changes the available distractions and consequences. Individual cueing separates who should act, while pair practice examines the interaction that isolated sessions cannot reproduce.
so they have pretty much learned everything they need to learn so far and the behavior together in the house is much much calmer significantly better
Watch at 01:12 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
now, so another thing to make it easier for them is I'll ask, do you want them to play in the house at all? No. All right. So then like they can play with their toys on their own. So that's what I would say is if you don't want them to play in the house, it's much easier for them to separate the context.
Watch at 29:48 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
Because it's going to be frustrating for them if you like let them play with a toy by themselves, but then as soon as the other one joins in, then it's like
Watch at 30:45 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
maybe we can just try it with Ramsay. Roxy. Sure. Yeah, I can put her up and then we can do the the walk around thing with Ramsay real quick.
Watch at 00:43 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
ramsey okay see i keep forgetting that i trained that okay to be a ramsey okay not just okay which is good
Watch at 19:17 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
Now the thing is and I'll work with them tomorrow. And then have them settle and then call one off if the other one stays on the cot. But that's tomorrow's challenge for them.
Watch at 10:53 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
Source moments
Questions for intake
Which routines are harder when the dogs are together, and which rules or support differ between them?
Still to establish
Where is a completed, verified split-cot progression available?
Source limitations
Ramsey is co-featured in the Roxy source folder; the observations about the pair are not all Roxy-only. Shared equipment settings are retained in source research but not prescribed as universal practice.
Quotations are copied verbatim from the current local transcript, including transcription errors. Exact text matching does not independently verify the audio or identify a speaker.
The dossier is derived from existing Tier 1 and Tier 2 research; its broad-concept sighting cap may omit further examples. Dogs covered records reviewed dossier context, not a claim that every dog supplies equally strong evidence.
Equipment levels, inferred motives and outcome claims describe the cited case; they are not universal settings, diagnoses or independently established results.
Connected library collections
These links follow eligible video assignments in the reviewed library. A source can feature more than one animal; the older research-folder name is not used to merge identities.