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Offering another familiar behavior can reveal cue confusion; contrast the words and the setup rather than assuming the dog understood and refused.
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Answer
Knowing both movements is different from reliably choosing the movement named by the cue. King’s trainer explicitly identifies sit and down as a common confusion pair. Bullet supplies another version: come is answered with a down. A dog can therefore produce a well-practiced behavior while still giving the wrong answer to the current request.
Sage’s lesson offers a clear teaching distinction: reset the picture, ask again, and release when the dog completes the sit itself, rather than merely pulling the dog up from a down and counting the placed posture as understanding. Roxy’s training changes the word while holding the context similar. The trainer asks for down while moving in a situation that could suggest heel, specifically to distinguish response to the word from anticipation based on the scene.
Dutchess’s home lesson takes a more practical route. Because sit and down are becoming blurred, the trainer proposes using down in the house and retaining both outside. That is a household arrangement designed to prevent repeated mixed feedback; it is not proof that the two cues are already fully discriminated everywhere. Dolce’s protection-related vocabulary illustrates a separate design issue: handlers also need words they will not confuse. The transcript’s spellings of the foreign words are imperfect, so this page explains the stated distinction without inventing an authoritative command dictionary.
Owner takeaway
Tell the trainer which word you used and which behavior appeared. Ask for a demonstration that separates the cues and lets your dog complete the response, rather than judging only the final posture.
Across the cases
Bullet
Bullet responds to a recall with down. The trainer reports changing the intervention and obtaining a recall, but the useful diagnostic observation is the wrong familiar answer.
because of, like, the angle that it was at, like, where he was, but when I said come,
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he went into a down, which isn't exactly the desired result, so I had to turn the e-collar
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and then he recalled right away.
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King
The trainer names sit/down confusion as something to refine rather than treating the movements as unknown.
The dogs can confuse those two commands all the time. So we just want to make sure and refine that for King and see how it goes.
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Dutchess
The home lesson proposes reserving down for indoors while using both positions outside. The workaround limits ambiguous repetitions in that household.
maybe like instead of maybe you just do it down a lot right because right there if you say sit and
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she goes into it down you will teach her that she can do both whereas if you just say we only we
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we only give her a down command in the house
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and then outside we give her the sit and the down.
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Roxy
The trainer deliberately asks for down in the moving context that could suggest heel, explaining that the word must distinguish the response.
What I'm trying to do is create some clarity around the H-E-E-L command command by doing um doing a uh dow in command while in motion because doing it in motion makes her it's in the same context as when i would ask for a heel so she thinks i'm asking for that and tries to go into that when i'm actually asking for it down so it makes her distinguish more clearly between the two so it clarifies the criteria for each command
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because I don't want her just anticipating purely through context, I want her to actually respond to verbal command properly every time
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Sage
The reset-to-stand explanation aims for a self-completed sit followed promptly by release, rather than a mechanically imposed posture.
then what you're getting is you say sit he completes the position properly and gets released instead of him getting just pulled up from the down he you you reset the whole picture you make it clear hey that was wrong so you go and that's not it and then he gets back up and is like well well I don't know what to do then and then you repeat sit before he thinks about downing to say okay right because then he sat on his own instead of you mechanically pulling him up
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as soon as his butt hits the ground before he has a chance to lay down as soon as his butt hits the ground release right because then what you're getting is you say sit he completes the position properly and gets released instead of him getting just pulled up from the down he you you reset the whole picture you make it clear hey that was wrong
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Dolce
The trainer describes separating heel and bite wording to help clients distinguish them. This is a naming-design example; the spoken-word transcription is not a verified spelling guide.
and then by foos which of course is a heel we do by foos just because we also do foss for bite i was talking about this earlier with one of my co-workers so just to make it a little more obvious for clients
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Source excerpts
because of, like, the angle that it was at, like, where he was, but when I said come,
Watch at 00:47 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
he went into a down, which isn't exactly the desired result, so I had to turn the e-collar
Watch at 00:53 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
and then he recalled right away.
Watch at 01:09 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
The dogs can confuse those two commands all the time. So we just want to make sure and refine that for King and see how it goes.
Watch at 00:30 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
maybe like instead of maybe you just do it down a lot right because right there if you say sit and
Watch at 21:23 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
she goes into it down you will teach her that she can do both whereas if you just say we only we
Watch at 21:28 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
we only give her a down command in the house
Watch at 21:33 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
and then outside we give her the sit and the down.
Watch at 21:34 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
What I'm trying to do is create some clarity around the H-E-E-L command command by doing um doing a uh dow in command while in motion because doing it in motion makes her it's in the same context as when i would ask for a heel so she thinks i'm asking for that and tries to go into that when i'm actually asking for it down so it makes her distinguish more clearly between the two so it clarifies the criteria for each command
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because I don't want her just anticipating purely through context, I want her to actually respond to verbal command properly every time
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then what you're getting is you say sit he completes the position properly and gets released instead of him getting just pulled up from the down he you you reset the whole picture you make it clear hey that was wrong so you go and that's not it and then he gets back up and is like well well I don't know what to do then and then you repeat sit before he thinks about downing to say okay right because then he sat on his own instead of you mechanically pulling him up
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as soon as his butt hits the ground before he has a chance to lay down as soon as his butt hits the ground release right because then what you're getting is you say sit he completes the position properly and gets released instead of him getting just pulled up from the down he you you reset the whole picture you make it clear hey that was wrong
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and then by foos which of course is a heel we do by foos just because we also do foss for bite i was talking about this earlier with one of my co-workers so just to make it a little more obvious for clients
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How the trainers explain it
The stated mechanisms are discrimination between cues, control of contextual hints, and a reset that allows the dog to produce the requested response. A household vocabulary restriction changes the task environment; it should not be confused with testing complete generalization.
The dogs can confuse those two commands all the time. So we just want to make sure and refine that for King and see how it goes.
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What I'm trying to do is create some clarity around the H-E-E-L command command by doing um doing a uh dow in command while in motion because doing it in motion makes her it's in the same context as when i would ask for a heel so she thinks i'm asking for that and tries to go into that when i'm actually asking for it down so it makes her distinguish more clearly between the two so it clarifies the criteria for each command
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because I don't want her just anticipating purely through context, I want her to actually respond to verbal command properly every time
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then what you're getting is you say sit he completes the position properly and gets released instead of him getting just pulled up from the down he you you reset the whole picture you make it clear hey that was wrong so you go and that's not it and then he gets back up and is like well well I don't know what to do then and then you repeat sit before he thinks about downing to say okay right because then he sat on his own instead of you mechanically pulling him up
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This is a synthesis of the cited training record, not a controlled comparison or a measurement of the dog’s internal state.
Questions and answers
Does offering down mean my dog is disobedient?
It can reflect confusion between familiar responses. King’s trainer calls out the pair directly, and Roxy’s trainer designs a contrast exercise to separate words from context.
The dogs can confuse those two commands all the time. So we just want to make sure and refine that for King and see how it goes.
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What I'm trying to do is create some clarity around the H-E-E-L command command by doing um doing a uh dow in command while in motion because doing it in motion makes her it's in the same context as when i would ask for a heel so she thinks i'm asking for that and tries to go into that when i'm actually asking for it down so it makes her distinguish more clearly between the two so it clarifies the criteria for each command
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Why not just pull the dog into the sit?
Sage’s lesson distinguishes that placed posture from a repetition the dog completes after the cue. The latter is what the trainer wants to release and reinforce.
then what you're getting is you say sit he completes the position properly and gets released instead of him getting just pulled up from the down he you you reset the whole picture you make it clear hey that was wrong so you go and that's not it and then he gets back up and is like well well I don't know what to do then and then you repeat sit before he thinks about downing to say okay right because then he sat on his own instead of you mechanically pulling him up
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Teaching outline
Offering another familiar behavior can reveal cue confusion; contrast the words and the setup rather than assuming the dog understood and refused.
In the cited demonstration, identify how the handler resets and changes the cue. With the trainer, choose an easy contrast appropriate to the dog; do not infer a need for higher pressure from the wrong answer alone.
The dogs can confuse those two commands all the time. So we just want to make sure and refine that for King and see how it goes.
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What I'm trying to do is create some clarity around the H-E-E-L command command by doing um doing a uh dow in command while in motion because doing it in motion makes her it's in the same context as when i would ask for a heel so she thinks i'm asking for that and tries to go into that when i'm actually asking for it down so it makes her distinguish more clearly between the two so it clarifies the criteria for each command
Watch at 22:32 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
because I don't want her just anticipating purely through context, I want her to actually respond to verbal command properly every time
Watch at 25:01 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
then what you're getting is you say sit he completes the position properly and gets released instead of him getting just pulled up from the down he you you reset the whole picture you make it clear hey that was wrong so you go and that's not it and then he gets back up and is like well well I don't know what to do then and then you repeat sit before he thinks about downing to say okay right because then he sat on his own instead of you mechanically pulling him up
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Assuming that ending in the right posture proves the dog responded to the word.
Letting the setting predict the response so reliably that the verbal cue is never actually tested.
Did the word control the response, or did the setting, hand or leash supply it?
Common mistakes
Assuming that ending in the right posture proves the dog responded to the word.
then what you're getting is you say sit he completes the position properly and gets released instead of him getting just pulled up from the down he you you reset the whole picture you make it clear hey that was wrong so you go and that's not it and then he gets back up and is like well well I don't know what to do then and then you repeat sit before he thinks about downing to say okay right because then he sat on his own instead of you mechanically pulling him up
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Letting the setting predict the response so reliably that the verbal cue is never actually tested.
because I don't want her just anticipating purely through context, I want her to actually respond to verbal command properly every time
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Trainer notes
The stated mechanisms are discrimination between cues, control of contextual hints, and a reset that allows the dog to produce the requested response. A household vocabulary restriction changes the task environment; it should not be confused with testing complete generalization.
The dogs can confuse those two commands all the time. So we just want to make sure and refine that for King and see how it goes.
Watch at 00:30 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
What I'm trying to do is create some clarity around the H-E-E-L command command by doing um doing a uh dow in command while in motion because doing it in motion makes her it's in the same context as when i would ask for a heel so she thinks i'm asking for that and tries to go into that when i'm actually asking for it down so it makes her distinguish more clearly between the two so it clarifies the criteria for each command
Watch at 22:32 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
because I don't want her just anticipating purely through context, I want her to actually respond to verbal command properly every time
Watch at 25:01 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
then what you're getting is you say sit he completes the position properly and gets released instead of him getting just pulled up from the down he you you reset the whole picture you make it clear hey that was wrong so you go and that's not it and then he gets back up and is like well well I don't know what to do then and then you repeat sit before he thinks about downing to say okay right because then he sat on his own instead of you mechanically pulling him up
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Source moments
Questions for intake
When asked for sit, down and come separately, does the dog choose the named response or offer the same familiar behavior each time?
Still to establish
Confirm the actual protection and obedience cue spellings before publishing a command glossary.
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