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Agree on a small, clear set of household boundaries while preserving the ordinary behavior and quirks the family wants.
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Answer
Roxy’s household discussion distinguishes acceptable everyday activity from a short list of prohibited behavior. King’s lesson likewise separates being free to choose from being in an obedience command. The goal described is a dog that can participate in ordinary life without constant positioning commands.
The rules belong to the household and need to be made explicit. Stormie’s handler asks whether climbing onto a seated person is wanted. Luna’s pawing is referred to the owner and retained as a quirk. A trainer should not mistake a behavior the family likes for a problem simply because it is unusual. Louie’s explanation adds that people often treat unstated expectations as if the dog already knew them.
Rules also need context. Dolce’s handler explicitly permits pulling during one specialist exercise; this is a named exception, not a general walking instruction. Bullet is allowed to sniff and hang his head over a cot edge. The specific criterion matters more than the appearance of perfect stillness. The corpus describes several ways of enforcing boundaries, but choosing a rule and choosing an appropriate teaching method are separate decisions. This page does not turn every unwanted behavior into an automatic collar correction.
Owner takeaway
Write the household boundaries in plain language, include what remains allowed, and agree on them with everyone who handles the dog before teaching them.
Across the cases
Roxy
The trainer describes several acceptable choices and critiques constant command-giving as a household default.
Then they're going to think of you as like, "Oh, like hey, like don't do that. everything else is okay. Um, so you have a lot of lawful options. Walking around, sniffing things, laying down, chewing on their bone.
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So that's what people do most of the time and a lot of dog trainers teach people to do that. They use the work window as a band-aid for everything. So they band-aid that work window across Yes. every problem. Every problem they ask them to do a command and immobilize them. they say sit or they say down or they say come or they say do this or do that or do this. Well, instead of doing that, tell them nothing.
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Stormie
The handler asks the owners which seated contact they actually want.
So do you want her on you or do you want her to not get on you while you're sitting down?
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Luna
The owner’s decision to keep pawing as a quirk is recorded. Another lesson distinguishes a commanded position from an uncommanded one.
And there was much debate last time I was over about whether it does this paw thing and we were deciding if it's a quirk or if it's a uh in need of behavioral modification and Luna's owner said that we treat it just like a quirk.
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Dolce
Pulling is expressly permitted in this specialist exercise; the exception is explained aloud.
And I'm going to let her pull because it's fine to let her pull in this case.
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Louie
The trainer argues that criteria must be defined rather than left as implied rules.
he's pulling on it again so we have to like define the criteria that's the important thing about training is that you do define your criteria you cannot play a game or do anything honestly for that matter of fact if you do not know the rules a lot of times when people train their dog don't teach their dog really what the rules are the dog picks up on it eventually it's almost like some people treat it as implied rules
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Bullet
Sniffing and head position are not treated as failures of the actual cot criterion.
Good, he hangs his head off and sniffs, I'm not gonna get mad at him for that.
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King
The explanation distinguishes freedom from an obedience command and asks the owner to identify off-limits choices.
There's no rules in terms of you have not put him in the obedience window. He's not in the work window. You didn't tell him place or sit or down or anything. He's just free to walk around, do his thing. But you decide in your mind, these things are off limits for him to do.
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Zeus
The stated dog-to-dog criterion is neutrality rather than friendship.
right but it's not required but neutrality is required that's not optional he's not allowed to go after him right
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Source excerpts
Then they're going to think of you as like, "Oh, like hey, like don't do that. everything else is okay. Um, so you have a lot of lawful options. Walking around, sniffing things, laying down, chewing on their bone.
Watch at 36:46 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
So that's what people do most of the time and a lot of dog trainers teach people to do that. They use the work window as a band-aid for everything. So they band-aid that work window across Yes. every problem. Every problem they ask them to do a command and immobilize them. they say sit or they say down or they say come or they say do this or do that or do this. Well, instead of doing that, tell them nothing.
Watch at 33:25 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
So do you want her on you or do you want her to not get on you while you're sitting down?
Watch at 29:54 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
And there was much debate last time I was over about whether it does this paw thing and we were deciding if it's a quirk or if it's a uh in need of behavioral modification and Luna's owner said that we treat it just like a quirk.
Watch at 13:54 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
Source withheld by the current visibility or collection review.
Source withheld by the current visibility or collection review.
And I'm going to let her pull because it's fine to let her pull in this case.
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he's pulling on it again so we have to like define the criteria that's the important thing about training is that you do define your criteria you cannot play a game or do anything honestly for that matter of fact if you do not know the rules a lot of times when people train their dog don't teach their dog really what the rules are the dog picks up on it eventually it's almost like some people treat it as implied rules
Watch at 04:27 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
Good, he hangs his head off and sniffs, I'm not gonna get mad at him for that.
Watch at 01:55 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
There's no rules in terms of you have not put him in the obedience window. He's not in the work window. You didn't tell him place or sit or down or anything. He's just free to walk around, do his thing. But you decide in your mind, these things are off limits for him to do.
Watch at 26:33 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
right but it's not required but neutrality is required that's not optional he's not allowed to go after him right
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How the trainers explain it
A narrow, consistent boundary gives the dog more acceptable choices and gives people a clearer standard. The record distinguishes prohibitions, cued behaviors and ordinary freedom; it does not show that all households need identical rules.
Then they're going to think of you as like, "Oh, like hey, like don't do that. everything else is okay. Um, so you have a lot of lawful options. Walking around, sniffing things, laying down, chewing on their bone.
Watch at 36:46 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
So do you want her on you or do you want her to not get on you while you're sitting down?
Watch at 29:54 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
And there was much debate last time I was over about whether it does this paw thing and we were deciding if it's a quirk or if it's a uh in need of behavioral modification and Luna's owner said that we treat it just like a quirk.
Watch at 13:54 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
he's pulling on it again so we have to like define the criteria that's the important thing about training is that you do define your criteria you cannot play a game or do anything honestly for that matter of fact if you do not know the rules a lot of times when people train their dog don't teach their dog really what the rules are the dog picks up on it eventually it's almost like some people treat it as implied rules
Watch at 04:27 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
Good, he hangs his head off and sniffs, I'm not gonna get mad at him for that.
Watch at 01:55 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
There's no rules in terms of you have not put him in the obedience window. He's not in the work window. You didn't tell him place or sit or down or anything. He's just free to walk around, do his thing. But you decide in your mind, these things are off limits for him to do.
Watch at 26:33 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
This is a synthesis of the cited training record, not a controlled comparison or a measurement of the dog’s internal state.
Questions and answers
Should every unusual behavior be trained away?
Luna’s owner explicitly chooses to keep a quirk, and the decision is accepted.
And there was much debate last time I was over about whether it does this paw thing and we were deciding if it's a quirk or if it's a uh in need of behavioral modification and Luna's owner said that we treat it just like a quirk.
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Does moving on place always break the rule?
Bullet’s trainer permits sniffing and a hanging head. The answer depends on the criterion actually taught.
Good, he hangs his head off and sniffs, I'm not gonna get mad at him for that.
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Teaching outline
Agree on a small, clear set of household boundaries while preserving the ordinary behavior and quirks the family wants.
Write one household rule with an allowed example, a disallowed example and any deliberate exception. Check whether all handlers describe it the same way.
Then they're going to think of you as like, "Oh, like hey, like don't do that. everything else is okay. Um, so you have a lot of lawful options. Walking around, sniffing things, laying down, chewing on their bone.
Watch at 36:46 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
So do you want her on you or do you want her to not get on you while you're sitting down?
Watch at 29:54 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
And there was much debate last time I was over about whether it does this paw thing and we were deciding if it's a quirk or if it's a uh in need of behavioral modification and Luna's owner said that we treat it just like a quirk.
Watch at 13:54 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
he's pulling on it again so we have to like define the criteria that's the important thing about training is that you do define your criteria you cannot play a game or do anything honestly for that matter of fact if you do not know the rules a lot of times when people train their dog don't teach their dog really what the rules are the dog picks up on it eventually it's almost like some people treat it as implied rules
Watch at 04:27 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
Good, he hangs his head off and sniffs, I'm not gonna get mad at him for that.
Watch at 01:55 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
There's no rules in terms of you have not put him in the obedience window. He's not in the work window. You didn't tell him place or sit or down or anything. He's just free to walk around, do his thing. But you decide in your mind, these things are off limits for him to do.
Watch at 26:33 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
Did we teach this boundary, or only assume the dog would infer it?
Trainer notes
A narrow, consistent boundary gives the dog more acceptable choices and gives people a clearer standard. The record distinguishes prohibitions, cued behaviors and ordinary freedom; it does not show that all households need identical rules.
Then they're going to think of you as like, "Oh, like hey, like don't do that. everything else is okay. Um, so you have a lot of lawful options. Walking around, sniffing things, laying down, chewing on their bone.
Watch at 36:46 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
So do you want her on you or do you want her to not get on you while you're sitting down?
Watch at 29:54 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
And there was much debate last time I was over about whether it does this paw thing and we were deciding if it's a quirk or if it's a uh in need of behavioral modification and Luna's owner said that we treat it just like a quirk.
Watch at 13:54 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
he's pulling on it again so we have to like define the criteria that's the important thing about training is that you do define your criteria you cannot play a game or do anything honestly for that matter of fact if you do not know the rules a lot of times when people train their dog don't teach their dog really what the rules are the dog picks up on it eventually it's almost like some people treat it as implied rules
Watch at 04:27 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
Good, he hangs his head off and sniffs, I'm not gonna get mad at him for that.
Watch at 01:55 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
There's no rules in terms of you have not put him in the obedience window. He's not in the work window. You didn't tell him place or sit or down or anything. He's just free to walk around, do his thing. But you decide in your mind, these things are off limits for him to do.
Watch at 26:33 ↗ · Current transcript match · Audio confirmation pending
Source moments
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Questions for intake
Which behaviors do you want changed, and which quirks do you specifically want preserved?
Still to establish
Which examples best explain invited versus uninvited behavior without making household rules unnecessarily complicated?
Source limitations
An Astro/Fiona passage stored in the Stormie dossier was not treated as Stormie’s behavior.
Quotations are copied verbatim from the current local transcript, including transcription errors. Exact text matching does not independently verify the audio or identify a speaker.
The dossier is derived from existing Tier 1 and Tier 2 research; its broad-concept sighting cap may omit further examples. Dogs covered records reviewed dossier context, not a claim that every dog supplies equally strong evidence.
Equipment levels, inferred motives and outcome claims describe the cited case; they are not universal settings, diagnoses or independently established results.
Connected library collections
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