The answer
No - on film the trainers' default is to say it once, loudly enough for the distance and the distraction, and then wait. The waiting is the part owners skip and the part the trainers are most careful about. A dog has to hear the word, work out what it means and start moving, and that takes time you can see if you look for it. Correct him before that is finished and the correction lands on a dog who was already on his way. One trainer makes an owner feel it: he has the man touch his own doorknob while hurrying him - touch it, touch it - and then asks again, calmly, with time.
The trainers give two reasons never to repeat. Repetition changes the word: say down four times and the dog learns down means eventually, and the implied stay stops working. Daisy's handler catches himself saying 'down down' in a store and sets the rule aloud - say it once, then pressure, never a second word - so she is not conditioned to wait for a double cue. And a command, once given, stays open until the release: Lunna's trainer puts a dog who breaks straight back where she was, in silence, rather than saying sit again. The pause itself is valued: several trainers treat the visible moment of the dog deciding as what they are training, and one argues that a dog never allowed to choose correctly is a spring that goes off when the structure is removed.
Waiting is not letting it go. When Brody refuses a sit he has always done, his trainer gets a leash for one rep because 'can't set that precedent'; Boog's staff hold him in a down 'standoff' until he lies down. The trainers also separate slow from wrong: a delayed down is marked for work because slow can be dangerous near a road.
At Doja's go-home, Kelton tells the family he will give a dog a chance and say sit more than once, keeping the collar for a dog who tests hard or makes a habit of it. Max's trainer repeats a cue while a scenario is new, because the dog is still learning that piece, and stops repeating once it is ingrained. And Deuce's late-program rule runs the other way again: one command, then the collar. The stage reading - repeat or wait while teaching, first-time compliance once finished - fits most of it but not all: Deuce's own trainer gives second chances weeks into a program.
The September lessons (30 Sep update) add three trainers to the say-it-once side and sharpen the exceptions rather than the rule. Two give the same picture of why: the command opens a 'window' that only the release closes, so there is nothing to repeat - every marker falls inside it (Boog, Chunk). The exceptions are narrow and named: repeat if the dog plainly did not hear you (Chunk's trainer), once or twice at most and never 'like a broken record' (Boog's handover, where the trainer admits he still slips and says it again himself), and if you do repeat, repeat the same word more clearly rather than switching to another command (at Kali and Kane's lesson). Beo's trainer shows the stage reading in a single walk: having had to say let's go twice, he raises the criterion - now that Beo knows the command, he must respond on the first ask, or the marker and the collar follow.
What is inferred rather than said: nobody on film puts a number on how long to wait.
The say-it-once side gains Stormi's and Titan's trainers, both using the window picture (watch 28:17; watch 16:01), Kelton with Bandit ('i don't say down again i just say ah', watch 21:11), and Rocky's trainer ('it shouldn't be come and then ah come and ah every time', watch 13:43). Several of these are compatible with the stage reading and with the 'did he hear you' exception (Rocky's dog with ten good recalls gets a chance; Milo's trainer collars only once Milo has turned his head). The two lines from Akira's sessions are not - they reject the rule itself, though the recordings do not show whether they come from one trainer or two. That disagreement is recorded under conflicts and is not resolved here.
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What to do
Say it once and loud enough for the distance he is at and the noise he is in (watch 12:13). Then give him time to hear it, work it out and start (watch 35:29). Do not repeat the word - repeated, it comes to mean 'eventually' and the implied stay stops working (watch 11:36; watch 12:33). If he has had time and has not started, mark it and follow through - help him into it or back it with pressure - so the refusal does not stand (watch 03:46). If he breaks a position, put him back where he was without re-cueing; the command is still on until you release him (watch 20:38). Your trainer may tell you it is fair to repeat while a situation is brand new to him; once he knows it, stop (watch 22:28).
What the trainers say
You gotta give him time to respond.
I just have to remind myself to give him time to comply because I find that one of the things I'm doing, I was reviewing some of my own video footage and I found that I was not giving enough latency, not giving enough time between giving the command and giving the command again or correcting.
the easiest way to avoid needing to repeat the command is to say it loud the first, like say it loud enough, right? And that's going to depend on how far they are from you and how distracted they are. Say it loud enough the first time. Uh, you don't have to shout at your dogs. Um, uh, and then to allow time for them to process and do the thing, right?
So that's the the other thing. Um you'll avoid repeating the commands if you allow processing time. So if it takes them a little longer. They're not a sport dog. We're not in competition here.
multiple times you'll just say come and then if she doesn't you'll say ah as long as you give some time in between for her to like hear you process and then recall right because um sometimes that happens where we don't give them processing time and then they just like they're gonna they're about to like think about they're gonna come back and they're like thinking in there and then you go and they're
so right there I made a little mistake there okay what was my mistake well I kept saying the word over and over
if I do that all the time what will happen is she'll start to need to hear the word over and over and the implied stay essentially becomes like void right it just doesn't work anymore
so it's very important that I talk about the a window all the time it's like you know there's your window of opportunity right and like a window of opportunity doesn't open every single time you say i want a new opportunity there's a window of opportunity and once it closes it does not come knocking again sometimes right
That's a little check in. I was waiting. I was like, I don't, I've, I've learned over time. Sometimes give the dog a second to.
well and you gotta give them the you gotta give them the chance to make a right decision it's like those it's like kids who like they get like helicopter parented their whole life or whatever and then uh they're like a spring and then the second they move out it's like boom because they've never had the chance to make a right decision on their own
He sometimes has to think about it for a second. We're trying to get it to where he, you don't see that buffer.
Don't give him the choice, don't give him the choice.
so pretty strict like if he doesn't listen the first time i had the command then the collar does happen because we kind of like set the rules pretty tight now
If he gets that marker again, we are gonna e-collar. I just wanted to give him a chance.
And actually, when I'm training with the dogs and it gets weeks into the program, I actually find that if they don't listen for a second, I'll give them a second chance and I'll be like, and then I'll look at them. And if they do it again, then I'll take it. But the first week, you've got to show what it means.
Could use some speeding. It could use some like speeding up. She didn't technically do anything like
I was genuinely like, she might have not heard me, which I consider to be a decent possibility.
so it's more about just the thing of kind of like like if you're if if the parents tell a kid like hey you have to do this like no right they can't change their mind because like the principle of it like i told you you have to do this so now even though i don't care you
And so right there, I said the word and I pressured her into it. And there was not a second instance of that word being used the whole time.
And it's really important that we do that and that we don't condition our dogs to, like, need to hear a Punisher word first or condition them to where you have to pull the leash or condition them to where they need to hear the word two times
is active and the command window is active which is basically once i say the words you are in it
into a sit and said dog gets up um don't like let them come up to you and then put them in the sit
We just need to do that one rep, dude.
And this is gonna be a standoff until you lay down.
chance. Right. Yeah. Um, I'll give them a chance. I'll tell them sit more than once. Right. Cause
So then like I repeat the command in this case because I'm still teaching, right? Once the scenario has been like really ingrained, then I don't repeat my commands.
i don't mind repeating and i just wait until he finally does it because he does know the command at this point so now he's just challenging
but ordinarily you only say the command once i think of it like a window so it opens the window okay closes the window and if you're in between the window you're going to use some kind of marker to either reinforce or punish
now you put him in you say heal and don't i was saying it a couple of times so like because he was getting distracted but really in reality you should say the word once and then that's it
So, I mean, once you say heal, just don't say it again. Yeah, I mean, you can do it like maybe once or twice, but it doesn't need to be like heal, heal, heal, heal, right? Like a broken record.
actually you don't want to say place more than once because the way i think of it is like the command is like a window so when you say the command the window opens yeah and then like it won't the window doesn't close until you say okay which is like that closes that window
which now that he knows these commands I'm raising the criteria right he has to respond on the first time I asked
Perfect. Well done. Yep. You didn't give another command. You just told him again and then made it clearer.
commands is not bad contrary to what popular wisdom is it's fine like i might repeat something
And yes, I will repeat commands. Sorry. I don't see the reasoning behind saying it once.
that same time, so it's not like a strict rule, but it is better where like probably 80 to 90%
come and then ah come and ah every time it should just be come right so but like say like he comes
use the collar you don't ever say the command twice because then you start to
How it looks, dog by dog
King
A handler working alone tells himself out loud, mid-session, to give the dog time to respond - and a few minutes later explains where the instruction came from: he had been watching his own footage back and found that he was not leaving enough time between the command and the repeat or the correction. Nobody else in this record audits their own timing from the recordings. King himself is assessed on day one as a dog who simply does not know his commands yet, which is exactly the stage at which the interval matters most, because a dog still working out what a word means needs the seconds nobody is giving him.
On film
You gotta give him time to respond.
I just have to remind myself to give him time to comply because I find that one of the things I'm doing, I was reviewing some of my own video footage and I found that I was not giving enough latency, not giving enough time between giving the command and giving the command again or correcting.
Roxy
Roxy's lessons are where the rule is taught to a family, twice, and where the teaching device belongs. The first lesson gives the recall version - say come once, then the marker, and leave time in between for her to hear you, process and turn - with the specific failure named: the dog is mid-thought, about to come back, and the correction arrives on top of her. The second lesson does not explain it at all. The trainer puts the owner in the dog's position instead: he tells him to touch his own doorknob and rushes him through it, then asks again with time, then asks what the difference felt like. The practical rule attached is the one owners can actually use: the way to avoid needing to repeat is to say it loudly enough the first time, and how loud depends on how far away and how distracted she is.
On film
multiple times you'll just say come and then if she doesn't you'll say ah as long as you give some time in between for her to like hear you process and then recall right because um sometimes that happens where we don't give them processing time and then they just like they're gonna they're about to like think about they're gonna come back and they're like thinking in there and then you go and they're
touch the doororknob, dude. Touch the door. Touch it. Touch it. All right. And now take it out. All right. Could you touch the doororknob? Good job. See the difference?
So that's the the other thing. Um you'll avoid repeating the commands if you allow processing time. So if it takes them a little longer. They're not a sport dog. We're not in competition here.
Lola
Lola is a nervous dog, and her file argues the rule from the handler's side: repeating the word does not just fail to help, it costs you the word. The trainer makes the mistake on camera, stops, asks himself what he did wrong, and answers it - he kept saying it over and over - and then explains the consequence, which is that she will come to need the repetitions and the implied stay becomes void. He is careful to say the rep itself was not bad and that the damage is in doing it all the time. The image he uses is a window of opportunity that does not reopen because you would like a new one. Her file also carries the smallest, most copyable habit in the cluster: he spells the cue aloud while narrating - D-O-W-N - so that talking about a command does not fire it at the dog. And it carries the reason a nervous dog makes this rule non-negotiable: a confident dog papers over unclear handling, and a nervous one shows you every gap.
On film
so right there I made a little mistake there okay what was my mistake well I kept saying the word over and over
if I do that all the time what will happen is she'll start to need to hear the word over and over and the implied stay essentially becomes like void right it just doesn't work anymore
Alright, let's see how she's doing with her D-O-N-W, D-O-W-N command today.
Luna
Luna's file holds the fullest version of the argument for waiting, and its own contradiction, within about forty-eight hours. On the first day a slow down is marked for work - she did not technically do anything wrong, and it is still going to be sped up, because slow could be dangerous in a real situation. On the same session a missed cue is taken seriously as possibly not having been heard at all, which the handler says he considers a decent possibility. And then, minutes later, the other half of the same coin: he says he genuinely does not care whether she sits or downs when she comes in, and insists she do one of them, because a dog who learns she got away with something takes the next freedom rather than that one.
On film
She was very like so Chris we time though. So we're gonna speed that up a lot because that Could be dangerous and practical like real-life scenarios
That's a little check in. I was waiting. I was like, I don't, I've, I've learned over time. Sometimes give the dog a second to.
well and you gotta give them the you gotta give them the chance to make a right decision it's like those it's like kids who like they get like helicopter parented their whole life or whatever and then uh they're like a spring and then the second they move out it's like boom because they've never had the chance to make a right decision on their own
Deuce
Deuce is the case that complicates the rule, and it is complicated in public across six dated days. On 30 July the trainer names the pause as the thing being trained - he sometimes has to think about it for a second, and we are trying to get to where you cannot see that buffer. On 1 August, with the dog tired at the end of a walk, he says it twice and flatly: don't give him the choice. On 3 August the standard is stated as a rule - one command, then the collar, because we set the rules pretty tight now - and he says plainly that this is what tightening up means. On 4 August he does both in one session: he holds a correction back on purpose because he wanted to give the dog a chance, and later says he did not give him the choice on a distraction. The thing that makes all of it coherent rather than contradictory is his own revision four days into it: some of Deuce's latency is not hesitation at all, it is a ninety-six-pound Rottweiler taking a moment to fold into a down. And at the handover he tells the family the version they need, which is the opposite way round from what he is doing himself: weeks into a program he gives second chances, but for their first week at home every word has to be backed.
On film
He sometimes has to think about it for a second. We're trying to get it to where he, you don't see that buffer.
so pretty strict like if he doesn't listen the first time i had the command then the collar does happen because we kind of like set the rules pretty tight now
takes me to get in the down I generally suspect that it just is he's big I think just to get in that pose it takes a minute
And actually, when I'm training with the dogs and it gets weeks into the program, I actually find that if they don't listen for a second, I'll give them a second chance and I'll be like, and then I'll look at them. And if they do it again, then I'll take it. But the first week, you've got to show what it means.
Daisy
On a Tractor Supply trip Daisy knows the down but is slow into it. Her handler hears himself say 'down down' and turns it into the rule on the spot: say the word once, then pressure until she downs, and never a second instance of the word - so she is not conditioned to need a punisher word, a leash pull or the word said twice. The next down is 'I'm not gonna say it again, that's the rule'.
On film
down turn to it i'm not gonna say it again that's the rule
And so right there, I said the word and I pressured her into it. And there was not a second instance of that word being used the whole time.
And it's really important that we do that and that we don't condition our dogs to, like, need to hear a Punisher word first or condition them to where you have to pull the leash or condition them to where they need to hear the word two times
Lunna
On Lunna's last program day, at a busy park, her trainer teaches a newer colleague the silent put-back: once the words are said the command window is open until the release, so a dog who breaks gets the marker and the collar and is put back roughly where she was - not called to the handler and re-cued. At the go-home the owner learns that only a commanded sit binds; a sit she offers can be broken, and a slow sit is corrected if it does not happen within a reasonable window.
On film
into a sit and said dog gets up um don't like let them come up to you and then put them in the sit
is active and the command window is active which is basically once i say the words you are in it
You can punish it if she doesn't do it within a specific time window.
Brody
Brody, recovering and unworked for a few weeks, refuses a sit - 'the only time he's ever not sat'. The trainer, who had not been using a leash, fetches a broken spare, gets one sit with it and takes it off again: the point is not the sit but that a refusal does not become a precedent.
On film
sit, sit dude, sit, come on, sit, sit, sit, sit, this is the only time he's ever not sat,
We just need to do that one rep, dude.
Can't set that precedent, buddy.
Boog
Boog's indoor sessions are the waiting version with no words at all: once the down has been asked and helped, staff simply hold him until he lies down - 'a standoff until you lay down' - and one says she has done her part and is now just waiting him out. A staff member wonders aloud whether his movements mean wanting something or moving away. At the handover he softens it honestly: 'once or twice' at most, never 'like a broken record', and he admits he still slips and repeats a command himself.
On film
And this is gonna be a standoff until you lay down.
I was like, I've already had a beautiful maneuver so now I'm just waiting him out.
actually you don't want to say place more than once because the way i think of it is like the command is like a window so when you say the command the window opens yeah and then like it won't the window doesn't close until you say okay which is like that closes that window
I say that when we say a command, right, we don't say it again until we release them. But we're also humans, which means we're going to make little mistakes.
But I still have these moments where, like, I'll mess up and I'll say the command again, and I'm like, ah, right?
So, I mean, once you say heal, just don't say it again. Yeah, I mean, you can do it like maybe once or twice, but it doesn't need to be like heal, heal, heal, heal, right? Like a broken record.
Doja
The collar, he says, is mainly for the recall.
On film
chance. Right. Yeah. Um, I'll give them a chance. I'll tell them sit more than once. Right. Cause
If they test you really hard and they won't do it, won't do it, or if they do it multiple times in a row and you start noticing they have a habit of not sitting right away, then that's when you put it back on.
Max
Max's file holds a three-part rule for proofing a known position, stated to his owner a week before go-home: while a scenario is new, repeating the cue is fair because he is still learning that piece; once it is ingrained, the cue is not repeated and a failure is corrected; and the release comes the instant he succeeds under pressure, so the corrections are read as being about getting up and not about the people walking past. Three weeks earlier, at Tractor Supply, his handler repeats a down he knows and waits, reading the refusal as a challenge.
On film
So then like I repeat the command in this case because I'm still teaching, right? Once the scenario has been like really ingrained, then I don't repeat my commands.
and then i didn't release him and i just kept making him do the pressure he could end up understanding it incorrectly he could be like well maybe i wasn't being corrected because i got up maybe i was being corrected because they walked by
i don't mind repeating and i just wait until he finally does it because he does know the command at this point so now he's just challenging
Chunk
His trainer gives the owners the window rule and its one exception in the same breath: say it once; if he plainly did not hear, say it again; but if he looked at you as if to ask whether you will make him, that look is the moment for the marker. At the go-home lesson the trainer catches his own repetition - he said heel a couple of times because Chunk was distracted - and corrects himself to the owners: 'really in reality you should say the word once and then that's it'.
On film
chunk down like he hasn't moved at all and you can tell he didn't hear you you'd be like chunk down again but he looked at you and was like you gonna make me do it or not and so once he gives you that look then you use the marker
but ordinarily you only say the command once i think of it like a window so it opens the window okay closes the window and if you're in between the window you're going to use some kind of marker to either reinforce or punish
now you put him in you say heal and don't i was saying it a couple of times so like because he was getting distracted but really in reality you should say the word once and then that's it
Beo
On a park walk his trainer has to say 'let's go' twice, and turns it into a rule on the spot: next time, the first ask, and if he does not move, 'uh-uh' and a tap, 'because I don't want to have to say it multiple times'. The reason given is the stage: now that Beo knows these commands, the criterion goes up to a response on the first time of asking.
On film
because right there I had to say it twice. So the next time I'm going to say, Bale, let's go. And then if he doesn't move along when I first asked him, then I'm going to go, uh-uh, then I'm going to tap the e-collar, right? Because I don't want to have to say it multiple times.
which now that he knows these commands I'm raising the criteria right he has to respond on the first time I asked
Kali
At the in-program owner lesson an owner calling one of the dogs repeats 'let's go' and gets praise for how she did it: 'You didn't give another command. You just told him again and then made it clearer.' The point being praised is not the repetition but the refusal to switch to a different word.
On film
Perfect. Well done. Yep. You didn't give another command. You just told him again and then made it clearer.
Akira
Describing the flexi test (a busy public walk with only one or two mistakes and no need to lock the flexi), Akira's trainer adds that repeating a command during it is fine: 'repeating commands is not bad contrary to what popular wisdom is'. The test is whether he ever has to lock the line, not how many words he used. On a later livestream, right after a run of 'down, down, down' with Akira, the trainer adds as a general statement that he repeats commands and doesn't see the reasoning behind saying it once.
On film
but without having to use the flexi right so if i repeat a command that's fine uh repeating
commands is not bad contrary to what popular wisdom is it's fine like i might repeat something
to you if i need to right like it's not a big deal um uh but basically like i never have to
And yes, I will repeat commands. Sorry. I don't see the reasoning behind saying it once.
Apollo (the Sharkie)
Both sides in one dog. While Apollo is first working out the down, the trainer repeats 'down' several times with minimal help and defends it: repeating is treated as a 'mortal sin', but 'yes and no', it depends on the context, and giving a dog time to figure a new position out makes it stick. On a walk with a dog he is working for the first time, he says let's go once, gives him a second to respond, and follows with a small pop on the prong if he doesn't.
On film
notice there that I repeated the same command multiple times that must be one
of the things that people think is like this this mortal sin you can't repeat
the command multiple times you know it's gonna confuse them they're not gonna
know it yes and no so it depends on the context in a context like this him
finally figuring out what down means and going into the down with his little help
i'll say let's go and i'll give him a second to to respond and if he doesn't i'll give him a little
Bandit
Kelton teaches both halves to the family. The first cue counts: if Bandit doesn't down right away, he doesn't say down again, he says 'ah', because the dog shouldn't need to hear another down or he learns to wait for it. And before the follow-through comes processing time: Kelton gives him 'a really fair chance', waits, waits a little more, and only then uses a low e-collar tap and leash guidance.
On film
bandit down and then he doesn't down right away and then i go on i don't say down again i just say ah
right because it should still be connected first time i sit down right and then i'm going right he
shouldn't need to hear another down does that make sense yeah yeah because i don't want him to think
right because um the other thing that you want to allow time for is processing let him process
right um so like i gave him a shot right i gave him a really fair chance right i waited um to
Baxter
A middle position stated as fairness: unlike a lot of trainers he will repeat a command if needed, while asking himself whether the dog understood or heard - but it isn't a strict rule, and 80 to 90 percent of the time you want to say it once, as long as you're sure the dog heard you.
On film
unlike a lot of trainers, like I'll repeat a command if needed, but it's kind of something
where I'm feeling out like, all right, did the dog not understand? Did they hear me? I'm asking
that same time, so it's not like a strict rule, but it is better where like probably 80 to 90%
of the time, you're going to want to just say it once, as long as you're sure that they heard you,
Kane
The trainer dislikes having had to repeat the down, so he sets up another rep straight away aiming for a first-time response, with negative reinforcement if it doesn't come; the next down is first time.
On film
like that i had to to repeat myself there so i am going to do another rep in just a second here
and hopefully um get it first time if i don't get it first time um then i'm going to go ahead
and use some negative reinforcement to reinforce that it should be first time okay down good boy
Kodak
To Kodak's family the trainer puts the limit at once, maybe twice, and then follow-through - and what the follow-through is depends on the moment and what is to hand: taking the collar and putting him on place, or the e-collar if the remote is actually in your hand.
On film
commands like yeah um like just like once maybe maybe two uh us right um but then like what you
do after that um it can kind of depend so like it could be like uh uh like place and then like
it could just be like you grab their collar and like pull them over and put them on place
Milo
The trainer gives the recall as 'give the recall, give a chance, then obligate' - a long line or flexi while the dog isn't safe off leash, the e-collar once he is. In a later lesson he tells the family to rewatch the moment he used the collar and draws the line between hearing and not hearing: on uncertain audio, he says that if Milo doesn't look back he will say 'Milo, come' again; here Milo turned his head back, so he had heard, and the collar followed.
On film
is almost identical is you give the recall you give them a chance to come to you and then if
they don't come then you have a way to obligate them so at first when they're not fully safe to
but he was like this and then turned his head back he heard me right so then I
Rocky
To Rocky's owner the trainer separates a dog who has been blowing you off from one with a good record. For the habit: 'Rocky, come', then 'ah' with an e-collar tap at the same time, because it shouldn't be come-ah-come-ah every time. For a dog who has come ten times in a row and misses one: say 'ah' and give him a chance.
On film
ah and then you tap the e color boom okay because he shouldn't have blown you off it shouldn't be
come and then ah come and ah every time it should just be come right so but like say like he comes
to you like every time ten times in a row like off of stuff and then you recall him and he doesn't
come right right at first then you say ah and you give him a chance will you say rocky come
Stormi
The trainer gives Stormi's family the window version without exceptions: the word is said once, and if the dog doesn't listen the collar follows; never say the command twice, because the word opens the window and the release closes it.
On film
say a command I only say the word once and then if they get up don't listen I
use the collar you don't ever say the command twice because then you start to
confuse them so like if you the word is like when you start the window right and
the window closes once you give the release cue yeah but that uh yeah as far
Titan
Coaching Titan's owner: marker, then collar if he doesn't listen - don't 'sit-sit' repeatedly or you teach him the word has to be said a million times. In another session the trainer adds the timing: it won't matter yet, but in a couple of weeks it will - the word is said once, the window opens, and 'down down down' is out.
On film
Don't sit-sit repeatedly,
because you can teach the dog that like,
not that actually, you'll teach him
that you have to say it a million times.
will is after you say the word don't say the word again it's the word gets said once and then the
windows open and then you say like it right so you don't want to go like down down down right
Why it works
Three stated mechanisms, and they operate on three different things. On the dog's side: a command has to be heard, understood and started before it can be obeyed, and a correction that lands inside that interval arrives on a dog who was already complying - the trainer describes the exact failure, a dog mid-thought who is about to turn and gets corrected for thinking (watch, 35:33). On the word's side: repetition is not neutral, it redefines the cue. "She'll start need to hear the word over and over and the implied state essentially becomes like void" (watch, 11:34) - a word said four times comes to mean the fourth time, which is why the same handler insists the command is a window that opens once (11:48). On the handler's side: the interval is where the dog's own decision happens, and the decision is the thing being trained rather than the position. "He sometimes has to think about it for a second. We're trying to get it to where he, you don't see that buffer" (watch, 12:45) makes the pause a measurable criterion; "you got to give them the chance to make the right decision" with the helicopter-parented spring behind it (watch, 06:16) makes it a developmental one. The failure this prevents is also stated from the other end: repeating is usually a symptom of the first cue not having landed, so the fix is loudness and clarity at the front rather than repetition at the back - "say it loud enough the first time" (watch, 12:13). What is inferred and not stated anywhere: how long. The nearest anyone comes is a handler entertaining that the dog might simply not have heard him (watch, 08:21), and that is a guess, honestly labelled as one. It also names the one stated reason to re-cue: the dog plainly did not hear (watch 10:56) - which matches the 'not heard' cause in the trainer notes.
Where the trainers differ
Processing time against first-time compliance - the rule and its opposite, taught in the same voice to different families.
One view
Give him time. Say it once, wait for him to hear, process and begin, and only then mark it. Correcting early takes the answer away from the dog and lands on one who was already complying - and these are not sport dogs, so the half second costs nothing.
On film
You gotta give him time to respond.
So that's the the other thing. Um you'll avoid repeating the commands if you allow processing time. So if it takes them a little longer. They're not a sport dog. We're not in competition here.
That's a little check in. I was waiting. I was like, I don't, I've, I've learned over time. Sometimes give the dog a second to.
Another view
Do not give him the choice. Late in a program the rules are set tight: if he does not listen the first time, the collar happens. Said twice in one breath about a tired dog, and stated as policy two days later.
On film
Don't give him the choice, don't give him the choice.
so pretty strict like if he doesn't listen the first time i had the command then the collar does happen because we kind of like set the rules pretty tight now
because right there I had to say it twice. So the next time I'm going to say, Bale, let's go. And then if he doesn't move along when I first asked him, then I'm going to go, uh-uh, then I'm going to tap the e-collar, right? Because I don't want to have to say it multiple times.
A third view
It is a stage, and the same trainer says so - and then inverts it for the family. Weeks into a program he gives second chances; at the handover the owners are told that in their first week every word must be backed, because they are the ones establishing what the words mean in a new house.
On film
And actually, when I'm training with the dogs and it gets weeks into the program, I actually find that if they don't listen for a second, I'll give them a second chance and I'll be like, and then I'll look at them. And if they do it again, then I'll take it. But the first week, you've got to show what it means.
If he gets that marker again, we are gonna e-collar. I just wanted to give him a chance.
How to read it
Not resolved, and worth not resolving quickly. The stage reading is the obvious reconciliation - processing time while the word is being learned, first-time compliance once it is owned - and the record supports it, since the same trainer does both in the same week and is explicit that the tight version is what tightening up means. But two things cut against a tidy answer. Deuce's trainer describes the second-chance version as what he does weeks into a program, which is the later stage, not the earlier one, so the axis is not simply time. And the version an owner takes home is the strict one, given to families as a first-week rule. An owner who has read the processing-time page and been given the first-week rule has been told two different things by the same business, and nobody on camera notices.
Whether a slow response is a fault at all.
One view
No. A beat between the word and the behaviour is not a rule break, and a handler should seriously entertain that the dog did not hear him.
On film
sit can i get a lick took you a second i said the word she did it as long as the dog just take
I was genuinely like, she might have not heard me, which I consider to be a decent possibility.
Another view
It is not a rule break and it is still a defect, and the reason is safety rather than obedience: slow could be dangerous in a real-life situation.
On film
Could use some speeding. It could use some like speeding up. She didn't technically do anything like
She was very like so Chris we time though. So we're gonna speed that up a lot because that Could be dangerous and practical like real-life scenarios
How to read it
Same trainer, same dog, and by the dates embedded in the two videos' own titles these are consecutive days. Both may be true of different commands - a slow sit is a courtesy and a slow down near a road is not - and neither file says so. Neither published date exists, so the ordering rests on the titles.
Whether the visible pause is trainable at all.
One view
It is the criterion. The hesitation is what is being trained out, and the finished command is one where you cannot see the dog decide.
On film
He sometimes has to think about it for a second. We're trying to get it to where he, you don't see that buffer.
Another view
Some of it is physics, not psychology. Four days later the same trainer revises his own reading: a dog that size simply takes a moment to fold into a down.
On film
takes me to get in the down I generally suspect that it just is he's big I think just to get in that pose it takes a minute
How to read it
This is a trainer correcting himself on camera four days apart, which is worth more than either statement alone.
Whether to repeat the cue at all.
One view
Never. One word, then pressure or a silent put-back; a second word teaches the dog to wait for it.
On film
And it's really important that we do that and that we don't condition our dogs to, like, need to hear a Punisher word first or condition them to where you have to pull the leash or condition them to where they need to hear the word two times
if I do that all the time what will happen is she'll start to need to hear the word over and over and the implied stay essentially becomes like void right it just doesn't work anymore
now you put him in you say heal and don't i was saying it a couple of times so like because he was getting distracted but really in reality you should say the word once and then that's it
actually you don't want to say place more than once because the way i think of it is like the command is like a window so when you say the command the window opens yeah and then like it won't the window doesn't close until you say okay which is like that closes that window
use the collar you don't ever say the command twice because then you start to
that you have to say it a million times.
shouldn't need to hear another down does that make sense yeah yeah because i don't want him to think
Another view
Sometimes: give the dog a chance and say it more than once before escalating (Doja, Kelton), or repeat while a scenario is new and stop once it is ingrained (Max).
On film
chance. Right. Yeah. Um, I'll give them a chance. I'll tell them sit more than once. Right. Cause
anytime there's like a slight shift or like adjustment where it's like hey he is trying to get past a new thing right it's not fair necessarily to not repeat because he's learning the new piece of it
So, I mean, once you say heal, just don't say it again. Yeah, I mean, you can do it like maybe once or twice, but it doesn't need to be like heal, heal, heal, heal, right? Like a broken record.
Perfect. Well done. Yep. You didn't give another command. You just told him again and then made it clearer.
And yes, I will repeat commands. Sorry. I don't see the reasoning behind saying it once.
commands is not bad contrary to what popular wisdom is it's fine like i might repeat something
know it yes and no so it depends on the context in a context like this him
How to read it
Max's file even differs with itself: at Tractor Supply the handler repeats a down Max already knows and waits; at the owner visit the trainer says a known scenario gets no repeated cue. Not resolved. Both Akira lines may be the same trainer; the recordings do not name him, so this is not counted as two voices.
Common owner mistakes
- Repeating the word. It teaches the dog that the command means eventually, and that he can wait for the third or fourth ask.
On film
if I do that all the time what will happen is she'll start to need to hear the word over and over and the implied stay essentially becomes like void right it just doesn't work anymore
Lola · Watch at 11:36 ↗ So, I mean, once you say heal, just don't say it again. Yeah, I mean, you can do it like maybe once or twice, but it doesn't need to be like heal, heal, heal, heal, right? Like a broken record.
Boog · Watch at 21:21 ↗ - Correcting into the gap - the dog is mid-thought and on his way, and the correction arrives on top of the decision you wanted him to make.
On film
multiple times you'll just say come and then if she doesn't you'll say ah as long as you give some time in between for her to like hear you process and then recall right because um sometimes that happens where we don't give them processing time and then they just like they're gonna they're about to like think about they're gonna come back and they're like thinking in there and then you go and they're
Roxy · Watch at 35:29 ↗ - Saying it too quietly for the distance and the distraction, and then blaming the dog for a cue that never reached him.
On film
the easiest way to avoid needing to repeat the command is to say it loud the first, like say it loud enough, right? And that's going to depend on how far they are from you and how distracted they are. Say it loud enough the first time. Uh, you don't have to shout at your dogs. Um, uh, and then to allow time for them to process and do the thing, right?
Roxy · Watch at 12:13 ↗ - Letting it go because the thing asked for did not matter. The cost is not that behaviour, it is the next freedom the dog takes.
On film
so it's more about just the thing of kind of like like if you're if if the parents tell a kid like hey you have to do this like no right they can't change their mind because like the principle of it like i told you you have to do this so now even though i don't care you
Luna · Watch at 7:44 ↗ - Firing the cue by accident while talking about it - the reason one handler spells the word aloud when narrating.
On film
Alright, let's see how she's doing with her D-O-N-W, D-O-W-N command today.
Lola · Watch at 2:58 ↗ - Saying the word twice and not noticing. Daisy's handler catches himself doing it in a store.
On film
And so right there, I said the word and I pressured her into it. And there was not a second instance of that word being used the whole time.
Daisy · Watch at 12:24 ↗ - Letting a dog who broke a sit come to you and then sitting him there, instead of putting him back where he was.
On film
into a sit and said dog gets up um don't like let them come up to you and then put them in the sit
Lunna · Watch at 2:05 ↗ - Keeping up the pressure after the dog finally succeeds, so he cannot tell what the corrections were for.
On film
and then i didn't release him and i just kept making him do the pressure he could end up understanding it incorrectly he could be like well maybe i wasn't being corrected because i got up maybe i was being corrected because they walked by
Max · Watch at 23:56 ↗ - Switching to a different command when the first one gets no response, instead of the same word made clearer.
On film
Perfect. Well done. Yep. You didn't give another command. You just told him again and then made it clearer.
Kali · Watch at 14:09 ↗
Questions owners ask
He didn't move. Do I say it again?
No. Wait first - long enough for him to hear the word, work out what it means and start. If he has genuinely had that time and has not begun, the next thing out of your mouth is the marker, not the command again. Repeating is what teaches a dog that the word means eventually, and the trainers describe a specific, cruel version of the failure: the dog is mid-decision, about to turn and come, and the second cue or the correction lands on him just as he commits. The most useful version of the rule is the preventative one - if you find yourself needing to repeat, the problem is usually that the first one was not loud enough for how far away and how distracted he was.
On film
the easiest way to avoid needing to repeat the command is to say it loud the first, like say it loud enough, right? And that's going to depend on how far they are from you and how distracted they are. Say it loud enough the first time. Uh, you don't have to shout at your dogs. Um, uh, and then to allow time for them to process and do the thing, right?
if I do that all the time what will happen is she'll start to need to hear the word over and over and the implied stay essentially becomes like void right it just doesn't work anymore
How long should I wait?
Nobody in this record gives a number, and that is worth knowing rather than guessing at. What the trainers give instead is a description of what you are waiting for: hearing, processing, beginning. The practical version is to wait until he has visibly started something - moved, looked at you, begun to fold - rather than waiting a fixed count.
On film
I just have to remind myself to give him time to comply because I find that one of the things I'm doing, I was reviewing some of my own video footage and I found that I was not giving enough latency, not giving enough time between giving the command and giving the command again or correcting.
Isn't a slow dog just a disobedient dog being given excuses?
The trainers separate the two and then refuse to be sentimental about either. A pause is not a rule break - one of them says a dog taking a second is fine and he is not going to punish it, and another says out loud that he considers it a decent possibility the dog simply did not hear him. But the same trainer who says that also marks a slow down for work the day before, and his reason is not obedience, it is that slow could be dangerous in a real situation. So: not a rule break, still a thing to fix. And there is a floor under it. One trainer, watching a ninety-six-pound Rottweiler take his time, decides the delay is not hesitation at all - it takes a dog that size a moment to get into the position.
On film
She was very like so Chris we time though. So we're gonna speed that up a lot because that Could be dangerous and practical like real-life scenarios
takes me to get in the down I generally suspect that it just is he's big I think just to get in that pose it takes a minute
My trainer told me to back up every word the first week. Doesn't that contradict waiting?
It is the sharpest tension in the record and it is worth naming rather than smoothing over. The same trainer who gives second chances weeks into a program tells the family that in their first week home every word has to be followed up, and the reason is that the family is establishing what the words mean in a house the dog has never worked in. Both instructions are about the same thing from different ends - the dog must find the word reliable. Backing up a word is not the same as repeating it: you say it once, you wait, and if nothing has started you mark and back the mark. What you never do in either version is say the word a second time.
On film
And actually, when I'm training with the dogs and it gets weeks into the program, I actually find that if they don't listen for a second, I'll give them a second chance and I'll be like, and then I'll look at them. And if they do it again, then I'll take it. But the first week, you've got to show what it means.
He came back but didn't sit. Does that matter enough to make something of it?
One trainer answers this directly and his answer is counterintuitive: he does not care which of the two she does, and she has to do one. The reason has nothing to do with the sit. A dog who discovers she got away with not doing something does not stop at that thing - she takes the next freedom, and the one after. He teaches it with a parent and a child: the point is not the task, it is that you were asked. Which means the small stuff is exactly where consistency is decided, because the small stuff is where letting it go feels reasonable.
On film
i don't care if she downs into a recall or if i really like that part is inconsequential she comes and settles
so it's more about just the thing of kind of like like if you're if if the parents tell a kid like hey you have to do this like no right they can't change their mind because like the principle of it like i told you you have to do this so now even though i don't care you
He refused something he always does. What now?
Follow it through once, with the least help that works, and then carry on. Brody's trainer fetched a leash for a single sit and took it off again: the point was that the refusal did not stand.
On film
We just need to do that one rep, dude.
Can't set that precedent, buddy.
Is it ever fair to repeat the command?
Some trainers on film say yes, in two situations: while a situation is brand new to the dog and he is still learning that piece (Max), and as a chance before escalating to the collar (Doja's go-home). Others say never. The common ground is that once the dog knows the command in that situation, you stop repeating and follow through. The September lessons add the limits: if he plainly did not hear you; once or twice at most, never 'like a broken record'; and the same word said more clearly, not a different command.
On film
So then like I repeat the command in this case because I'm still teaching, right? Once the scenario has been like really ingrained, then I don't repeat my commands.
chance. Right. Yeah. Um, I'll give them a chance. I'll tell them sit more than once. Right. Cause
chunk down like he hasn't moved at all and you can tell he didn't hear you you'd be like chunk down again but he looked at you and was like you gonna make me do it or not and so once he gives you that look then you use the marker
So, I mean, once you say heal, just don't say it again. Yeah, I mean, you can do it like maybe once or twice, but it doesn't need to be like heal, heal, heal, heal, right? Like a broken record.
Perfect. Well done. Yep. You didn't give another command. You just told him again and then made it clearer.
I keep saying it twice without meaning to. Is that a disaster?
Trainers do it too, and one says so to a family at the handover: they still slip and say the command again. The fix is to notice and go back to once. Chunk's trainer catches himself saying heel a couple of times on go-home day and corrects himself out loud. What makes a slip matter is what follows it: a repeated command with the collar pressed at the same moment is how a word starts to feel like a punishment (see 'dont-poison-the-command').
On film
But I still have these moments where, like, I'll mess up and I'll say the command again, and I'm like, ah, right?
now you put him in you say heal and don't i was saying it a couple of times so like because he was getting distracted but really in reality you should say the word once and then that's it
The lesson
The goal
The handler gives one cue at a volume matched to the distance and distraction, waits through the dog's processing interval without filling it, and can tell the difference between a dog who is thinking, a dog who did not hear, and a dog who is not going to answer.
Learn first
See it done
- The doorknob demonstration - the owner given the command, the timing and the pressure, and asked what it felt like. Watch at 12:40 ↗
- A handler making the mistake on camera, naming it, and explaining what repetition costs. Watch at 11:16 ↗
- The fault found by video review rather than in the moment. Watch at 4:55 ↗
- The wait paying off: the dog overshoots, notices, and self-corrects with no second cue. Watch at 6:00 ↗
The drill
Film yourself. Work a command the dog knows in a place with mild distraction, and give it once, at a volume you have chosen for the distance rather than the one that comes out. Then do nothing - no second cue, no name, no step forward, no leash. Watch for the start rather than the finish: an ear, a weight shift, the beginning of a fold. Mark only after the start has failed to appear. Afterwards, watch the footage back at the point of every correction and ask whether the dog had already begun. Then run the same command at three distances and two noise levels and see where your first cue stops landing - that is your real volume rule, not the one you think you have. Do the doorknob exercise on a member of the household before you do any of it. (Roxy watch; Lola watch; King watch; Luna watch.)
Watch out for
- Saying the word a second time instead of marking (watch 11:16).
- Correcting into the processing gap, so the correction lands on a dog who had already started (watch 35:33).
- Under-volume at distance, then treating the non-response as refusal (watch 12:13).
- Filling the silence with the dog's name, a step forward, or leash pressure - all of which are the second cue by other means.
- Reading a big dog's mechanical slowness as hesitation (watch 08:58).
- Judging your own latency live rather than on video.
Check yourself
You ask for a down at twenty feet in a busy park. Nothing happens for two seconds. Name the three possibilities before you do anything, and say what each one calls for. (He did not hear you - say it again, louder, and that is not a repetition failure, it is a first cue that never arrived; he is processing - wait, and do not touch it; he heard and is not answering - mark it and back the mark, but do not re-cue. watch 08:21; watch 12:13.)
