How do I stop my dog running off on walks?

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The trainers use “radius” to describe a walking boundary and check-in pattern; the distance and handling in these examples belong to their particular plans.

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Answer

These sessions show trainers working toward a dog checking in or remaining within an intended area around the handler. In the two-dog session that includes Sage, the handler describes a boundary and points out a check-in. In Louie’s session, the trainer describes a goal of roughly fifteen to twenty feet. Those examples make the idea concrete, but do not establish a fixed distance by dog size or a boundary that prevents every escape.

Watch for three separate observations: how far the dog travels, whether the line becomes tense, and whether the dog looks or returns toward the handler without a fresh cue. They can differ. A dog staying at the end of a line, for example, has not necessarily shown the same check-in pattern as a dog turning back independently. The selected scene only establishes what happened under its actual conditions.

The draft also collects differing instructions about distance, leash pressure and who chooses the boundary. Those differences need source-context review before being turned into one method. A timeline such as a handful of walks is an estimate unless follow-up observations demonstrate it. For your own dog, discuss the setting, line handling and response criteria with the trainer responsible for the plan; this page does not establish off-leash readiness.

Owner takeaway

Clarify the walking goal with your trainer: the intended area, what counts as a check-in and how the dog will be managed in that setting. When reviewing footage, record distance, line tension and spontaneous check-ins separately. Keep changes in handler, location and distractions visible in any comparison. A successful example is useful evidence for that scene, not proof that a dog will remain nearby in every situation.

Across the cases

Luna

Luna's file is where the radius is built, tested, scored, argued with and given away, and it is the case that should define the concept. She is a nervous case typed on day one as environmental rather than genetic, and the radius is both her treatment and her thermometer: a nervous dog's radius is wide, so tightening it is the physical proof that the nerves came down - "it was affecting her radius". The procedure is stated to the owner in full: set the leash to a specific length, give her the e-collar every time she hits the end of it for a session or two, then loosen the leash and let the occasional excursion go. Free room first, then close the circle. What is left is the "mental field" - a sense of distance that survives any leash length because she is answering the collar rather than the line. It is scored on a long line a week later as "locked in fairly decently", given an explicit upper bound - not glued to me - and then handed over as a dial the family may turn: he tunes it to a medium and tells them how to keep it where they want it. And the same file contains the strongest argument against the whole method, twelve days earlier, in what reads as the same voice.

is we have what's called a radius. So, right now, Luna won't pull me on the leash, but she's really loose, right?
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all good. But her feel, she kind of has like a a mental field of like this is how far I should be from my handler. So that's why you let her free room first, get around just so when you're closing the circle, it's more efficient.
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she is really cute though okay so her radius is just more of the main thing here um which it's locked in fairly decently
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fine i really don't want her like hitting the end of my radius because radius is one of those things that like the radius goes and it makes awfully significantly harder to to do um and i would prefer like not to have to tune up and create all these skills for a off-leash dog the day they're going home
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Sage

Sage gets the mildest version, because she is nervous and because the handlers working her are junior. Her number is the small-dog number - about ten feet, eight to ten - and it is confirmed out loud by the senior handler when her handler asks. The enforcement is barely there: an unlocked line, one almost imperceptible tug when she turns toward a distraction, a correction reserved for actually pushing past. It also produces the clearest illustration in the corpus of a problem nobody warns owners about: a dog who never leaves the radius cannot be taught the radius. In the store her handler says he would correct her for going out of it, but she has not given him the chance - and in an earlier session the senior handler has to trick her into going far enough away to show where the boundary is. Sage's radius is the one that is talked about rather than shown, and it is honest about that.

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So you want to build a radius that they don't go outside of on the walks, makes it a lot easier for people to navigate walks with their dogs, and a lot less management is required. And so you can see he checked in automatically on his own that time.
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each time she turns to like to like walk towards them, I like stop to cut the leash once and just like barely gives her a tug. And so she like ultimately just stood on my human right here
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Stay with me. You're about to push the radius.
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Deuce

Deuce is ninety-six pounds of ten-month-old dog with no idea how strong he is, and his file supplies the two things the rest of the corpus lacks: the mechanism and the owner-facing test. The mechanism is that the pressure teaches, not the length. The e-collar is fired at the exact instant the flat collar comes tight, so the lesson is about the sensation of the end of the line rather than about a number of feet - which is why the rule holds on a leash locked short and on one fully extended. The test is the shortest sentence in this concept: he doesn't hit the end of the leash, we're good. And his lesson catches the failure mode of success on camera. He has stopped hitting the end and started riding it - "he's not hitting the end but he's hanging out right at the end with you" - which looks like a pass and is not, and the answer is to lock the line shorter for a while until the radius resets.

so anytime he hits that leash he feels the pressure and then the e-collar happens
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so he's uh when he hits the end of it no matter if it's long or short it's the pressure that makes
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like a radius and basically it's when we're handling the dog they know like kind of what
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he doesn't hit the end of the leash we're good
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Louie

Louie's file is where the method is taught rather than used, and where it is called house standard rather than preference. The number is the big-dog number, fifteen to twenty feet at most, and the installation is one sentence: recall him every time he gets to the edge, and he will start checking in and circling back without being told. It also carries the argument for why the radius is not just loose-leash walking under another name. Louie does not pull; he lives at the end of the line, and the handler treats that as a fault to fix rather than a standard met - he watches the leash and the collar continuously and tightens the radius up rather than letting him ride the end. In a later session radius and recall are described as one job with two names.

we normally try to start installing a kind of like a radius where he goes out to a certain point and then he's either going to circle back and come back to me or he's going to kind of stop and wait for me to catch up.
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so about 15 to 20 feet at most they kind of stop and like check in and they might go sniff something but they kind of stay within that radius whether they're behind me or in front of me
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all I have to do is just recall him every time he gets to there. And he'll start checking in and circling back on his own without me having to tell him to do it.
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i'm keeping a very strict watch on the leash collar or the leash and how it interacts with the collar specifically with louis because he does have a tendency to want to hang out at the end of the leash and there's nothing wrong with that but for him probably what i will do is we'll tighten the radius up
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We're working on our recall and then, of course, the radius. Kind of go hand-in-hand, right? Make sure it doesn't go all over the place.
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Bullet

Bullet arrived at zero - no sit, no down, no heel, no recall - and finishes the program with ten to fifteen feet of self-imposed range and a line he wears for other people's benefit. His session is also the one place in the corpus where a trainer says out loud that this behaviour is trained for the client rather than for the dog: he would not bother installing a radius on his own dog, and he does it because clients want it and adapting to what is in the client's interest is the job. The method is the same as everywhere else - cue him every time he reaches the edge, either a recall or a let's-go - and the result is described as inbuilt, meaning the dog's own range rather than the equipment's.

so he has a little inbuilt radius at this point where he stays within a certain radius and checks in on me
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that's how I build it in the first place. Every time they go out a certain
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so very often the name of the game is i have to change what i'm doing
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Dolce

Dolce is a protection dog whose obedience ran months ahead of her confidence, and her file treats the radius as a named exercise in its own right - worked before the leash comes off, separately from both heel and recall, and enjoyed: "radius is a thing it's i i enjoy doing radius quite a bit". Three different handlers describe it independently across her sessions, which is unusual in this corpus. Two things are distinctive here. Its real product is named as self-control rather than obedience - the perimeter is what makes dropping the leash thinkable. And by mid-July it is what a session is scored on: not the commands, but the fact that she keeps herself in range and checks in unprompted.

radius so she really doesn't need to hang out much further than this all right we'll say about out there so radius is a thing it's i i enjoy doing radius quite a bit
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so as you can see she's already quickly grasping the radius
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see she's a very active dog and she um she's got a great radius now where she checks in
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we want her to be roughly like in the same general area so we can so we can set the um set the like perimeter around us and the boundary where like i can like start dropping the leash and she doesn't want to just like take off
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Dutchess

Dutchess supplies the criterion, and the way to test it. Her last recording before the drive home is a short off-leash check in which off-leash readiness is defined as an uncued behaviour rather than as obedience: she checks in with him without being called, and that is what an owner should be looking for. What makes it method rather than observation is how he tests it - he deliberately keeps quiet and stays off her, so that the answer cannot be something he produced. It is the only definition of off-leash readiness anywhere in her file, and it is checkable by a family with no equipment and no trainer present.

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Lola

Lola's file argues the negative case, which is the half most owners never hear. Good-looking commands are worthless without a check-in, because a dog who does not care where you are cannot be reinforced at any distance - and the counter-example is a shepherd with immaculate obedience who ran halfway through a Home Depot before noticing his handler had gone. For Lola, a nervous pound dog, the check-in on a long line is the thing praised at the end of her last training session, above any command. The households' own version of a successful walk, recorded in her second owner lesson, is the same measure in lay words: the dogs stay with the group and look back, rather than being held close.

the other good thing too is even on the long line she's checking in which was really really good if she didn't and she just took off and she didn't care that wouldn't be great
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i had a dog who all the commands look really really good and we were in the home depot and again commands were nice but i think it was a shepherd and once he realized i was gone then he kind of came back and checked up on me but he ran halfway through the store before he realized i wasn't with him because he just wouldn't check up at all which is a little problematic if you're trying to reinforce commands or the dog doesn't actually care if you're near or not
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Yeah. They're just checking. But they're not um because there's one
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Zeus

Zeus is the refusal, and it is the most interesting entry in this file. His handler will not install a radius at all. He teaches the words and the communication system; the number is the household's to choose, because anything he built would be generic and would then have to be undone - if he set it further out, the family would have to bring it in. So what is handed over is a parameter and the tools to set it, not a finished behaviour. He is also the one who says what actually makes it real, and it is not the number: it is never changing the number. An inconsistent radius produces a confused, frustrated dog rather than a boundary. His estimate for how long a consistent family needs is five or six walks. This is the clearest instance in the corpus of a program handing over a design decision rather than a result.

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yeah that's why I don't like build the stock radius for people because if I build it it's gonna be generic right so like I give all the tools to build it really quickly because if I built it say further out then you'd have to bring it in right
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Yeah so he'll learn the radius if you're consistent with that he'll learn that
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Finn

Finn is the case where it is named as an assignment and then explicitly withheld. He is a major flight risk who bolts, and on his first trip out the radius is set as his next piece of work alongside the recall. Weeks later, with a handler new to him, it is deferred again in plain terms - not tonight, he is not ready, he needs to ease up around her first. His file also supplies the cleanest owner-facing framing of why the radius is not the same as not pulling: your dog may not pull and still run to almost the end of the leash, and that is chaotic. By the go-home lesson he is reported keeping his own radius while other dogs have to be called back onto one.

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Roxy

Roxy's file gives the order of operations and one unusually honest correction. The order: improve the recall first at whatever distance the dog currently works, pay it with release to freedom, and only then tighten the radius - then more distance, then a long line, then off leash. The radius is treated as the unit of freedom rather than leash-on and leash-off. The correction comes on her housemate Ramsey in the same set: the handler holds the leash at the intended length and corrects each time Ramsey hits it, Ramsey panics at the collar, and the handler says so on camera, apologises to the dog, halves the level twice and takes the e-collar out of the session entirely for a while. The radius work is what produced the mistake, and the mistake is left in.

All right, so we're going to create a radius, and then we're going to work on the different commands. And it looks like I'm probably going to be using mostly release to freedom here, since she's going to have more interest in the environment and she's the toy.
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Spending a little bit of time improving the recall first here before I start to build a tighter radius.
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he strays a little farther than i'd like so what we're gonna do and you can fix this fairly quickly is on the leash here i'm just going to have him about this length right and this just kind of gets him used to this right here all right each time he hits it we just do a oh hey hey hey hey
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i will say that was kind of like a negative experience for him a little bit there i didn't know he was going to be so sensitive i'm sorry ramsay um so i have it turned down we're not going to use the e-collar for you know just a little bit during the session just just let him cool down and have some fun
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Source excerpts

So you want to build a radius that they don't go outside of on the walks, makes it a lot easier for people to navigate walks with their dogs, and a lot less management is required. And so you can see he checked in automatically on his own that time.
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so about 15 to 20 feet at most they kind of stop and like check in and they might go sniff something but they kind of stay within that radius whether they're behind me or in front of me
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all I have to do is just recall him every time he gets to there. And he'll start checking in and circling back on his own without me having to tell him to do it.
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so very often the name of the game is i have to change what i'm doing
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so he's uh when he hits the end of it no matter if it's long or short it's the pressure that makes
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like a radius and basically it's when we're handling the dog they know like kind of what
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he doesn't hit the end of the leash we're good
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is we have what's called a radius. So, right now, Luna won't pull me on the leash, but she's really loose, right?
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And what we'll do is just we tighten that up. So, that's And way I do that is just I I set the the collar, like they set the leash to a specific length, right? And then maybe for a session or two, every time she hits the end, she gets the e-collar, right?
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all good. But her feel, she kind of has like a a mental field of like this is how far I should be from my handler. So that's why you let her free room first, get around just so when you're closing the circle, it's more efficient.
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And the other thing too is the way I have it um when it's done, you know, I'm not going to pretend like it's all good. Now, what I the way I have it is no matter what length you have the leash at, she responds to the pressure from the collar.
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fine i really don't want her like hitting the end of my radius because radius is one of those things that like the radius goes and it makes awfully significantly harder to to do um and i would prefer like not to have to tune up and create all these skills for a off-leash dog the day they're going home
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so like I've already seen her on the long line and I know what that looks like and if you know if I weren't to continuously reinforce the radius before she goes home it could not be great
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she is really cute though okay so her radius is just more of the main thing here um which it's locked in fairly decently
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because if you train a dog for a certain length, and every time they get to a length you just pull back on them they kind of learn like a distance thing like radius right
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radius so she really doesn't need to hang out much further than this all right we'll say about out there so radius is a thing it's i i enjoy doing radius quite a bit
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see she's a very active dog and she um she's got a great radius now where she checks in
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we want her to be roughly like in the same general area so we can so we can set the um set the like perimeter around us and the boundary where like i can like start dropping the leash and she doesn't want to just like take off
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the other good thing too is even on the long line she's checking in which was really really good if she didn't and she just took off and she didn't care that wouldn't be great
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i had a dog who all the commands look really really good and we were in the home depot and again commands were nice but i think it was a shepherd and once he realized i was gone then he kind of came back and checked up on me but he ran halfway through the store before he realized i wasn't with him because he just wouldn't check up at all which is a little problematic if you're trying to reinforce commands or the dog doesn't actually care if you're near or not
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yeah that's why I don't like build the stock radius for people because if I build it it's gonna be generic right so like I give all the tools to build it really quickly because if I built it say further out then you'd have to bring it in right
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Yeah so he'll learn the radius if you're consistent with that he'll learn that
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he strays a little farther than i'd like so what we're gonna do and you can fix this fairly quickly is on the leash here i'm just going to have him about this length right and this just kind of gets him used to this right here all right each time he hits it we just do a oh hey hey hey hey
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All right, so we're going to create a radius, and then we're going to work on the different commands. And it looks like I'm probably going to be using mostly release to freedom here, since she's going to have more interest in the environment and she's the toy.
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Spending a little bit of time improving the recall first here before I start to build a tighter radius.
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Stay with me. You're about to push the radius.
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We're working on our recall and then, of course, the radius. Kind of go hand-in-hand, right? Make sure it doesn't go all over the place.
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i'm keeping a very strict watch on the leash collar or the leash and how it interacts with the collar specifically with louis because he does have a tendency to want to hang out at the end of the leash and there's nothing wrong with that but for him probably what i will do is we'll tighten the radius up
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How the trainers explain it

The trainers give two different mechanisms, and they do not fit together. The first, and the one stated most often, is conditioning at the edge. You choose a distance, you make the same thing happen every single time the dog reaches it - a recall, a let's-go, a marker, a tap of the collar - and the edge becomes a fact about the world rather than a fact about your arm. Deuce's lesson supplies the reason this is supposed to generalise: the e-collar fires at the instant the flat collar comes tight, so what the dog learns about is the pressure and not the length, and "no matter if it's long or short it's the pressure that makes him back off not the length" (5K5ivI_ocfg, 10:55). Luna's lesson names the end state as internal: a "mental field of like this is how far I should be from my handler" that survives any leash length because she is answering the collar rather than the line (ldFe0hOs5NQ, 10:30). Zeus's lesson adds the variable that actually carries the learning, and it is not the distance but its invariance - change the number and you get "confusing and he'll get frustrated and confused" instead of a boundary (FIORySoF90o, 23:02). The second mechanism is the reason the first is worth having at all, and it is Lola's: the check-in is what makes any reinforcement possible at a distance, because "the dog doesn't actually care if you're near or not" is a dog you cannot reach (NBAvdIBZu3Y, 11:52). On this account the radius is not a distance rule that happens to produce check-ins; it is a check-in habit that happens to look like a distance. Where the two mechanisms collide is Luna's own file. Twelve days before the radius is taught to her owner, the same voice argues that correcting a dog at a fixed leash length teaches "a distance thing Like radius right" and that what should be taught instead is that leash pressure itself is the thing to avoid, because "if a dog's Reliant on pressure you can't have an off-leash dog" (trspGmYuPAw, 27:59 and 23:02). The most likely reading - and it is this reader's inference, not anything said on film - is that he is using the word for two different objects: the conditioned zone he builds with the collar, which he approves of, and the leash-length habit built by mechanical correction, which he does not. He never distinguishes them. What is inferred and stated nowhere: why marking the edge of one distance should produce a distance sense rather than a leash-length habit. Every handler asserts the first; one handler, in the same file, asserts the second.

Differences to review

Is the thing being taught a distance, or a response to pressure?

First perspective

A distance. Set the leash to a specific length, mark the end of it for a session or two, then loosen it; what is left is a zone the dog keeps herself in.

And what we'll do is just we tighten that up. So, that's And way I do that is just I I set the the collar, like they set the leash to a specific length, right? And then maybe for a session or two, every time she hits the end, she gets the e-collar, right?
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Second perspective

A response to pressure. Teaching a dog at one length teaches a rule that only holds at that length; teach instead that leash pressure is the thing to come off, and it transfers to any leash - and to no leash.

because if you train a dog for a certain length, and every time they get to a length you just pull back on them they kind of learn like a distance thing like radius right
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Both positions are in Luna's file, in what reads as the same voice, twelve days apart. The Tier 2 arc flags it as a live tension with itself and declines to average them. It matters practically, because the two accounts imply different drills: one asks you to fix the length and mark the edge, the other asks you to make leash pressure meaningful at any length and never let the dog become dependent on it.

Deuce's file reads as a third answer that dissolves the problem - fire the collar at the moment the line comes tight, so the dog learns the pressure and the length is incidental - but nobody on film connects it to Luna's objection, and it is not offered as a reconciliation.

Should the program install a radius, or hand the family the dial?

First perspective

Install it, tune it, and then show the family how to keep it or re-tune it. The trainer's job includes arriving with the behaviour already built, and building it on handover day is specifically what he refuses to do.

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fine i really don't want her like hitting the end of my radius because radius is one of those things that like the radius goes and it makes awfully significantly harder to to do um and i would prefer like not to have to tune up and create all these skills for a off-leash dog the day they're going home
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Second perspective

Do not install it. Anything the trainer builds is generic and would have to be undone to fit the household, so teach the words, hand over the tools, and let the family set the number.

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yeah that's why I don't like build the stock radius for people because if I build it it's gonna be generic right so like I give all the tools to build it really quickly because if I built it say further out then you'd have to bring it in right
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Both handlers are talking about the same handover moment and reach opposite conclusions about what the client should receive.

Nothing in the record reconciles these. They are two handlers' answers to the same question about the same deliverable, and the decay argument cuts both ways: if the radius goes when it is not reinforced, a trainer-built one is the one most likely to go.

Whose benefit is the radius for?

First perspective

It is trained for the client. One handler says outright he would not bother installing it on his own dog, and that changing what he does to suit the client is the job.

so very often the name of the game is i have to change what i'm doing
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Second perspective

It is the exercise itself, valued on its merits and enjoyed; and elsewhere it is framed as what buys the dog freedom, because a dog with a radius does not need to be recalled over and over.

radius so she really doesn't need to hang out much further than this all right we'll say about out there so radius is a thing it's i i enjoy doing radius quite a bit
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So you want to build a radius that they don't go outside of on the walks, makes it a lot easier for people to navigate walks with their dogs, and a lot less management is required. And so you can see he checked in automatically on his own that time.
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Not a disagreement about method but about justification, and it sits oddly against the rest of the corpus, which argues that training enlarges a dog's life.

Both are true statements about the same behaviour and the corpus never puts them side by side. It is one of very few places where a trainer says a behaviour exists for the owner's comfort rather than the dog's benefit.

Where to start the e-collar level when marking the edge of the radius.

First perspective

Start low and work up until the dog responds.

the radius you start low and default and you keep like if they don't respond you keep hitting turn it up until they're like fine
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to make the dog uncomfortable i turn it up until the dog responds i don't like start high i usually
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Second perspective

The same handler flags that having to do this is not his normal practice, and the corpus's `start-high-not-low` concept argues for the opposite order; a level the dog does not feel is not a correction, and repeated unfelt taps have their own cost.

um funny enough all three of the dogs in this that i've had to do it with i usually don't
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This one runs against a concept already on the site. `start-high-not-low` is in the bible; the radius work in Luna's and Deuce's files does the opposite, and one of the two handlers notes that starting low is unusual for him.

Ramsey's session shows the cost of getting it wrong in the other direction: a level that read fine a minute earlier produced a panic at the end of the line, and the handler halved it twice on camera. Nothing in the record settles which order is house standard for radius work specifically.

Questions and answers

How many feet should the radius be?

The examples use different distances. Sage’s session discusses about eight to ten feet; Louie’s trainer describes roughly fifteen to twenty feet; Zeus’s lesson emphasizes choosing a distance for the household. These are examples of plans, not a size-based formula. Agree on the purpose and conditions of your own walking boundary before choosing a number, and distinguish that intended distance from the length of the line.

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so about 15 to 20 feet at most they kind of stop and like check in and they might go sniff something but they kind of stay within that radius whether they're behind me or in front of me
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How do I actually build it? What do I do differently on tomorrow's walk?

In Louie’s lesson, the trainer describes recalling him when he reaches the intended boundary and looking for check-ins that begin without a cue. Other passages discuss leash tension and different ways of handling the line. Those accounts should not be combined into one universal sequence: cueing before the line tightens and responding to tension are different events. Ask your trainer to demonstrate the sequence that belongs to your dog’s plan, including the release and what counts as progress. The selected clips do not establish how many walks your dog will need.

all I have to do is just recall him every time he gets to there. And he'll start checking in and circling back on his own without me having to tell him to do it.
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that's how I build it in the first place. Every time they go out a certain
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Yeah so he'll learn the radius if you're consistent with that he'll learn that
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How do I know whether it is working, without a trainer watching?

Record distance, line tension and check-ins separately. Deuce’s trainer evaluates whether he reaches the end of the leash; Dutchess’s handler stays quiet to look for an unprompted check-in. A return after a cue can demonstrate a response to that cue, but it does not demonstrate an unprompted check-in. Compare repeated observations under similar conditions. These examples are not a stand-alone test of off-leash readiness.

he doesn't hit the end of the leash we're good
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Isn't this just teaching him to be clingy?

The stated goal includes room to sniff and explore. In Luna’s lesson, the trainer says he does not want her glued to him; Lola’s lesson discusses excessive checking back. That distinction is useful: staying near the handler and comfortably exploring within an area are not identical outcomes. If exploration changes, describe what you see and review the context rather than infer the cause from distance alone.

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Right. When like they're not like being a dog at all. They're not thinking about
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He was great at this when he came home and now he isn't. What happened?

The cited Luna session emphasizes maintaining the radius and teaching owners how to do that. It does not establish that every change at home has the same cause or that this is universally the fastest skill to decline. Compare the handler, setting, cues, distractions and response before deciding what changed. Bring a specific example to your trainer so the next step follows the case rather than an assumed failure of follow-through.

fine i really don't want her like hitting the end of my radius because radius is one of those things that like the radius goes and it makes awfully significantly harder to to do um and i would prefer like not to have to tune up and create all these skills for a off-leash dog the day they're going home
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of course that also means that you have to show people how to reinforce what you're talking about if you don't then it goes downhill really fast so So, that's why we have our go home license. Because we really need to make sure that everybody knows, like, hey, is this how you're gonna maintain this dog?
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Do I need an e-collar for this?

The archive includes both cue-based explanations and sessions involving an e-collar. A rep completed without stimulation does not establish that the dog’s prior learning was equipment-free, nor does a session using a tool establish that every dog needs it. Read these as descriptions of those dogs’ training histories and plans. The differing handling instructions remain a topic for trainer review; the page does not supply equipment settings for another dog.

that's how I build it in the first place. Every time they go out a certain
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each time she turns to like to like walk towards them, I like stop to cut the leash once and just like barely gives her a tug. And so she like ultimately just stood on my human right here
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so anytime he hits that leash he feels the pressure and then the e-collar happens
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i will say that was kind of like a negative experience for him a little bit there i didn't know he was going to be so sensitive i'm sorry ramsay um so i have it turned down we're not going to use the e-collar for you know just a little bit during the session just just let him cool down and have some fun
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Teaching outline

objective

Distinguish a walking boundary, leash tension and a spontaneous check-in using the source footage, then identify the questions needed for an individual walking plan.

prerequisites

What is the difference between come and let's go?

How do I train my dog to be off leash?

Why does my dog only listen when I'm pulling the leash?

How does my dog know when he can stop?

demonstration

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05:29

what

The method and the number stated as house standard, with the dog beginning to circle back on camera.

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10:48

what

The collar fired at the instant the flat collar comes tight, and the pressure-not-length rule stated to the owners.

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02:41

what

The passive test: the handler deliberately staying quiet to see whether the check-in happens on its own.

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16:20

what

Riding the end diagnosed live, and the line locked shorter in response.

drill

Compare Louie’s explanation of the intended radius with the quiet check-in observation in Dutchess’s clip. For each example, record the setting, approximate distance if it can be judged, whether the line becomes tense, any cue and the dog’s next visible action. Mark distance as unknown when the camera does not support an estimate. Separate a cued return from a spontaneous check-in. Then compare the Deuce examples: what criterion is the trainer using, and what changes in the handling? Write down the differences before discussing which sequence belongs to your own dog’s plan. This is a footage-analysis exercise; it does not ask the reader to reproduce equipment use from a clip.

common mistakes

Using leash length as if it were a measurement of the dog’s distance from the handler.

Counting a cued return as evidence of a spontaneous check-in.

Combining different session instructions without checking their context or purpose.

Treating one successful scene as proof of reliability in other locations or off leash.

Assuming that less exploration identifies the cause of a behavior change.

check question

A dog spends a walk at the far end of a loose line. What does that show? It supports an observation about line tension during that walk. It does not, by itself, demonstrate a spontaneous check-in or the intended distance boundary. Record those separately before judging the agreed goal.

Common mistakes

mistake

Treating 'he doesn't pull' as the standard. A dog can walk without pulling and still live at the end of the line, and the trainers call that chaotic rather than trained.

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i'm keeping a very strict watch on the leash collar or the leash and how it interacts with the collar specifically with louis because he does have a tendency to want to hang out at the end of the leash and there's nothing wrong with that but for him probably what i will do is we'll tighten the radius up
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mistake

Changing the distance from walk to walk - tight today, the whole length of the leash tomorrow - which produces a confused and frustrated dog instead of a boundary.

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mistake

Holding the dog so close that he never gets the chance to leave the radius - which means he can never be taught it, and gets no useful information when he does drift.

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mistake

Accepting a recall in which the dog touches base and leaves again. It looks like a check-in and it is not, and it is the specific way owners break their own recall.

very often they will let the dog come to them and then go back to what they were doing. So like the dog came, but they didn't come and stay with you, which is problematic because if the dog is off leash and you're recalling them because you need them away from a certain thing, you need them come to you and kind of stay with you.
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mistake

Running the walk on leash pressure, so the dog is obeying the line rather than the handler. It looks identical on a leash and it makes off leash impossible.

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mistake

Over-tightening it, so the dog ends up glued to the handler. The trainers set an upper bound as well as a lower one, and a dog who over-checks is named as a fault of its own.

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Yeah. They're just checking. But they're not um because there's one
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mistake

Letting it lapse once it looks finished. It is the fastest-decaying skill in the program in one trainer's account, and it degrades without being noticed because the dog still walks nicely.

so like I've already seen her on the long line and I know what that looks like and if you know if I weren't to continuously reinforce the radius before she goes home it could not be great
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What to notice

signal

He walks nicely and never pulls, but he spends the whole walk at the far end of whatever line he is on.

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signal

His commands look good and he still does not seem to notice where you are - you could stop walking and he would keep going.

i had a dog who all the commands look really really good and we were in the home depot and again commands were nice but i think it was a shepherd and once he realized i was gone then he kind of came back and checked up on me but he ran halfway through the store before he realized i wasn't with him because he just wouldn't check up at all which is a little problematic if you're trying to reinforce commands or the dog doesn't actually care if you're near or not
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signal

You keep calling him back. If the way you keep your dog near you is a stream of recalls, the thing you are missing has a name.

all I have to do is just recall him every time he gets to there. And he'll start checking in and circling back on his own without me having to tell him to do it.
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signal

A nervous dog who ranges further than you would expect. One trainer reads a wide radius as a symptom of the nerves, and its tightening as the evidence they came down.

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signal

He is fine on the leash and you do not trust him off it, and you cannot say what would change your mind. The trainers can: an uncued check-in.

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signal

He stopped hitting the end of the line and now rides it - always out there, never quite tight. The trainers treat that as a regression that looks like progress.

length we want them at so he's not hitting the end but he's hanging out right at the end with
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Trainer notes

The convergence, with dates and speakers, because it is the strongest provenance claim in the corpus and it should be checkable. Under the exact name 'the radius' it was proposed independently in five dogs' Tier 1 notes - Deuce, Finn, Luna, Roxy and Sage, twelve sightings between them. Under 'the check-in radius' in two more, Bullet and Louie. Under 'radius' alone in Dolce, Finn and Roxy. And the same idea arrives under four further names that never use the word: 'the check-in is the off-leash criterion' (Dutchess), 'the check-in is the real test' (Lola), 'the working radius' (Dolce), 'the owner's radius' (Zeus), plus 'he doesn't hit the end of the leash' and 'not glued to me'. Nine dogs' arcs carry it; eleven dogs' files were read for this page. The dated sequence: Louie 2026-06-29 (15-20 feet, called house standard, full installation method); Sage 2026-07-01 and 07-02 (8-10 feet, confirmed by a second handler); Finn 2026-07-03 (named as the next assignment); Dolce 2026-07-06 ('radius is a thing'); Louie 2026-07-06 (tighten it up rather than let him ride the end); Dolce 2026-07-17 (scored as the session's outcome); Roxy 2026-07-27 (worked on Ramsey, with the level mistake); Deuce 2026-07-30 (the pressure-not-length mechanism, and the riding-the-end failure); Deuce 2026-08-01 (the owner-facing test); Lola 2026-08-12 (the Home Depot counter-example); Zeus 2026-08-19 (the refusal to install one); Luna, session dates 2026-08-31 to 09-04 (built, scored, argued with, handed over); Dolce 2026-09-10. Luna's in-program lesson and go-home lesson, Dutchess's final check, Bullet's park test, Louie's third session and Roxy's field trip carry no publication date. Speakers: Connor is named on Luna's first in-program lesson and on Deuce's second, and is identified by three indirect moments on Luna's go-home; Kelton is the Tier 1 note's reading of Dolce's 2026-07-17 walk; every other statement of this concept is by an unnamed voice. Numbers, as spoken: 8-10 feet (Sage, small or nervous dog); 10-15, called about 15 (Bullet); 15-20 at most (Louie); 'a medium radius', tuned by the trainer and re-tunable by the family (Luna); no number at all, by refusal (Zeus, who volunteers that he personally lets a dog go thirty feet and that some clients want ten). Equipment: a retractable that can be locked short or run long, or a long line - 50 feet on Finn; the mark lands at the moment the flat collar comes tight, not at a counted length. E-collar levels where stated: Deuce about 18 out of 100, started at five or ten and raised until he responded; Luna started low and raised, with the handler noting this is not his usual order; Ramsey halved twice from a level that had read fine, then withdrawn for the rest of the session. Sequencing: recall first at the dog's current distance, paid with release to freedom, then tighten the radius, then more distance, then a long line, then off leash (Roxy). Failure mode to watch for, because it looks like success: the dog stops hitting the end and begins riding it - lock the line shorter until it resets (Deuce), or tighten the radius rather than accept it (Louie). Upper bound: a dog glued to the handler, or over-checking two feet in front, is a fault and not a strong result (Luna, Lola). Decay: this is the fastest-decaying skill in the program on one trainer's account, which is why the final pre-handover session is maintenance and why the go-home lesson exists as a service item. Diagnostic use: radius width read as a proxy for nerves, tightening read as the proof the nerves came down (Luna). Not the same as loose-leash walking: a dog who does not pull but lives at the end of the line has failed, and that distinction is the reason this concept exists separately from `dont-heel-grind` and `graduated-freedom`.

By trainer

trainer

Connor

how they teach it

Teaches it as a conditioned zone with a stated procedure, a stated end state and a handover: set the leash to a specific length, give the collar at the end of it for a session or two, then loosen and accept excursions; free room first, close the circle afterwards. Names the product as internal - a mental field - and claims leash length stops mattering once it is in. Tunes it to a medium, then tells the family how to keep it or move it. He is also the only handler on record who argues the opposite case, twelve days earlier and in the same dog's home, that a fixed length teaches a length rather than a rule - though that track never names him, so the attribution of the objection to him is the Tier 1 note's reading of voice and content rather than a self-introduction.

And what we'll do is just we tighten that up. So, that's And way I do that is just I I set the the collar, like they set the leash to a specific length, right? And then maybe for a session or two, every time she hits the end, she gets the e-collar, right?
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so he's uh when he hits the end of it no matter if it's long or short it's the pressure that makes
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trainer

Kelton

how they teach it

On the one radius statement the Tier 1 notes attribute to him - and the attribution is the note's reading, not a self-introduction - the radius is what a long public walk is scored on: not the commands but whether the dog keeps herself in range and checks in unprompted. The framing is evaluative rather than procedural.

see she's a very active dog and she um she's got a great radius now where she checks in
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Equipment context

tool

Retractable leash (Flexi), deliberately never locked

how used

The default instrument for radius work, because one leash gives both a short working length and a long ranging length. It is locked short only as a corrective when the dog starts riding the end, and one handover names the brand and tells the family to use it unlocked, as a prop, for ninety-five percent of the walk.

retractable leashes here I can like set it to a short length or a long like
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Um, and I like the Flexi brand the best.
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Let him go and explore and do things 95% of the time.
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tool

Long line, fifty feet

how used

The test bed between the retractable and off leash: long enough that the dog can genuinely leave, short enough to be a safety margin, and used precisely so a recall can be proofed without the handler picking the line up. Luna's radius is tested on a long line after being built on a flexi; Lola's check-in is graded on one.

and i'll use that as an opportunity to push his recall without picking up the line since this
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so like I've already seen her on the long line and I know what that looks like and if you know if I weren't to continuously reinforce the radius before she goes home it could not be great
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the other good thing too is even on the long line she's checking in which was really really good if she didn't and she just took off and she didn't care that wouldn't be great
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tool

Flat collar, as the thing the leash pulls against

how used

The radius is marked off the flat collar rather than off a training collar: the e-collar fires at the instant the flat collar comes tight, which is what makes the lesson about pressure rather than length. On a flight-risk dog the flat collar is worn deliberately tight and a second collar is carried as backup.

the e-collar is when we're training the dogs anytime he hits the end of the the flat collar
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and I've got his flat collar on relatively tight.
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tool

E-collar, and where it sits

how used

Used to mark the edge for a session or two and then relied on less, or fired at the moment of leash pressure so the obligation moves off the line. It is worn high and in front on the neck, partly so that it helps stop the backup collar sliding off. Levels stated for radius work: Deuce about 18 out of 100, reached by starting at five or ten and turning up until the dog responded; Luna started low and raised; Ramsey halved twice after a bad reaction and then withdrawn. The judgement is always the dog's response, not the number.

So I've got his backup collar on, and I've got the e-collar in front,
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so deuce is sitting on about an 18 out of 100 so i'm not out here on like 60 just like
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the radius you start low and default and you keep like if they don't respond you keep hitting turn it up until they're like fine
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when he hit the end of the leash there he just freaked out and he was like i don't like that so i'm going to turn down a lot for this yeah see and that's so we went down about half what he was doing i'm going to go down even more like a five i mean so this needs to be like barely anything right
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tool

Slip leash, for a dog who might back out

how used

Named as the preferred leash for nervous dogs specifically, because a flat collar gives a dog who tries to drag or reverse out of it nothing to hold him.

I like using those for nervous dogs because you know they'll try to drag you and everything and if they have a collar it just won't do anything for them.
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Settings

Sage

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place

a public park with shade, blacktop and grass, hot enough for the surface to matter