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A training session is a dose rather than an effort: roughly fifteen minutes, mostly not commands, ended when the quality drops rather than when the clock runs out.
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Answer
Shorter than you think, and far less of it is commands than you think. The one flat number anybody gives on camera is about fifteen minutes at a time, three times a day - chosen, the trainer says, because that is how you get quality time rather than a long stretch of a dog who has stopped paying attention. Everything else is a judgement, and the judgement has two halves. The first half is how much of the session is work. Early on with a nervous dog the ratio is ninety per cent walking to ten per cent commands, and sometimes ninety-five to five; as the dog gets comfortable it moves toward eighty-twenty, and seventy-thirty is described as a really intense session. Another handler puts the same thing as ten minutes of work to ten minutes of play, and says outright that the breaks are why the dog learns - an hour of repeated commands does not teach more, it teaches less. The second half is where the session stops. Not on a clock. The trainers stop when the quality of the work drops, and they are explicit that this is not the same as the dog wanting to stop: she still wants to play but I'm not getting anything, it's not as solid as it was. They stop when the dog is hot, when he is slowing down, when he is showing very light signs of being drilled too fast. They stop early on a first day, because going too long can actually be counterproductive. And they say it as a maxim - slow is fast - while cancelling a planned repetition that the dog has already paid for. Individual dogs get a number of their own that the handler can say out loud before the session starts: Luna taps out about twenty-five minutes, she gave out at nine on a hot day, and on that day the work was split into a long session and a short catch-up one rather than the long one being pushed. When the dog is already gone, the answer is not to push through it but to end the session, put him away and run another one later to find out whether the flatness was the dog or the day. High-arousal work is rationed harder than obedience: no more than two bolt-and-recall events in a session, because the dog who expects four of those every time he goes out comes to dread going out; and for a first protection repetition, one and done. Where a session ends matters too - not on the pressure, and not by putting the dog straight into the truck, because that teaches the dog where relief lives. The other direction is real as well, and it is the part owners miss: when Bullet began to settle on the cot, the trainer extended the exercise instead of ending it, because the settle was the green light rather than the finish line. What is inferred rather than said: nobody on film explains why fifteen minutes, or why ninety-ten. The figures are remarkably consistent across handlers and dogs, but they are reported practice, not measurement, and two of the clearest statements of the rule in this corpus are trainers marking their own timing as the error - one repetition too many, or two minutes of place asked for when a minute and a half was the honest ceiling.
Owner takeaway
Aim for about fifteen minutes and do it two or three times a day rather than once for an hour. Keep most of it walking and sniffing - if you are new to this, nine minutes of walking to one of commands is not too lopsided. Stop while the work is still good: when the answers get slower, when he is panting, when he is hot, when you catch yourself asking for one more. If he has already gone flat, put him away and try again later in the day instead of pushing through. And do not end the hard thing and then put him straight in the car - take one easy repetition somewhere pleasant first.
Across the cases
Deuce
Deuce's file carries the only stated schedule in the corpus and the clearest argument for it. Fifteen-minute bursts, three sessions a day, chosen so that the time is quality time. A session is then judged against what it set out to do rather than against the clock: three goals named before the work, all three ticked off, about twenty to twenty-five minutes, and the conclusion that a session does not have to be forever if it accomplished something. The ceiling is on intensity as well as length - an hour at that pitch would have cost him the dog's goodwill. And the threshold is read at its very light end: mid-session he says he worked slightly too hard, that the dog is showing very light signs of being drilled too fast, and that the fix next time is more space between repetitions rather than fewer of them. Two weeks later, with both owners handling, the same pacing rule is given to them as an instruction - stop commanding for a minute or two and just walk.
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the good thing is you don't need your session to be forever if you accomplish something
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now i think that actually i think i worked slightly too hard it'll be fine but i might maybe wait a little bit longer between because right now he's showing very light signs of just a little bit of like a drilling commands too fast so his brain's a little just a little out of it
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like i feel like we've been doing the commands back and forth a lot sometimes you can drill a dog too fast so maybe just for the next minute or two we can just like walk around and not like really command a ton
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Kodak
Kodak's file supplies the number that changes what a session looks like. Not how long, but how much of it is commands: ninety per cent walking to ten per cent commands early on, sometimes ninety-five to five, moving toward eighty-twenty as the dog gets comfortable, with seventy-thirty named as a really intense session. The reason is given and it is mechanical rather than sentimental - if you do not leave that much space, the freedom stops being a reward and the dog is on a recall simulator, which means the repetitions have stopped being repetitions of anything. The same session says that being overwhelmed, scared or anxious shortens a training session as surely as heat does. A second Kodak file gives the session-scale version of the same instinct: the dog is flat, so end it, put him in a kennel, and run another later to find out whether it was the dog or the day - with company floated as part of the answer.
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so you always need to allow enough time for them to reset return to baseline and actually be rewarded by the freedom that you give them and not just like okay i'm on a recall simulator and i go right back to it every time
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so if we're going to do another session we should probably put him in a kennel
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maybe having somebody with him will help him liven up some
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Luna
Luna is the dog with a number of her own, and it is said out loud four times across five sessions in figures that agree with each other. She taps out at about twenty-five minutes; fifteen to twenty is the trainer's normal unit; on a hot day she gave out at nine, and the answer was to split the day rather than push the session - a long one earlier and a five-or-ten-minute catch-up later. On another walk the reason for going home is given as the weather and the same fifteen-to-twenty figure. The handover lesson then gives the family the general form of it: all three dogs he has at the moment give him about fifteen minutes, so he breaks the sessions up across the day - and the warning that comes with it, that a family with a newly trained dog will want to drill everything because it is exciting, and drilling is what shuts the dog down.
Luna Taps out about 25 minutes. I think we got like five more minutes before she's like, I'm done.
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Cause usually I would go for 15 or 20 minutes. She pooped out at like nine minutes. So this is when I try to give her the time she needs.
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good thing is like i said this only needs to be like five or ten minutes it's just kind of uh to catch everything back up
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Roxy
Roxy's household gives the ratio in the form an owner can actually picture: ten minutes of breaks, ten minutes of playing, against an hour of repeated commands - and the claim is not that the breaks are kinder but that they are how the dog learns better. On a field trip the same handler stops a good stretch on purpose at ten minutes and turns the dog loose to wander. Late in the program, working Ramsey from the same household, a trainer states the cost directly: overworking will not make the work hard, it will make the performance drop. The same file produces the one measurable program variable in this concept - the warm-up a dog needs before it can work shrinks week by week and has practically disappeared by go-home. And on a hot day, the session is designed around cooling rather than shortened: pools are put out, the dog is in and out of one, and the sit work starts after she has cooled down.
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Now we've done a lot in these 10 minutes, I'm going to let her wander around and do her thing.
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I think it won't be hard, but his performance will go down a lot if I overwork him.
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because of the heat we got pools like big dog pools for them so you see that blue thing
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Lola
Lola is where the dose is rationed hardest, because the exercise being dosed is the most effective one in her program. No more than two bolt-and-recall events in a session, and the failure mode is named precisely: not that the exercise stops working, but that a dog who comes to expect four of them every outing finds going out intense, and the trainer will not spend that. The closing rule follows from the same logic - reset in the same place, send her back out to sniff, take an ordinary repetition, and only then finish, because ending on the pressure or in the truck teaches the dog where relief lives. On her intake day the general version is stated without the exercise attached: long decompression gaps, because throwing a dog at a thing over and over is the mechanism of repression rather than merely inefficient. And on a hot day in a treeless park, the stopping point is set not at distress but a couple of minutes before it, at what he calls the threshold of smooth brain.
normally i don't look for more than like like definitely i don't want to have more than like two of those in a session because you start like getting you can't have a bunch of that like that that is that's an intense experience for the dog
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One option is put her in the truck right go home other option is Give her a wind down right because she's like whoa right. She's just had some intense interactions here where she's had Like been negatively reinforced with a recall and it's shady over here, so I'm just gonna go okay good girl and let her go Explore over here, and then you can like end on a pretty good note right
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allowing a lot of decompression time because the biggest way to repress a dog is to throw him over and over and over like that
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Dolce
Dolce's protection work is where the ending criterion gets said most cleanly, because on a tug a dog's willingness and the quality of the work come apart. She still wants to play; the grips have stopped being worth having; the session ends on the second fact and not the first. The house word for it appears in two separate files - cooked. A first repetition of a new high-arousal exercise is planned as one and done, stated before it happens rather than decided afterwards, and the sleeve introduction gives the general rule: a few of them and then make progress from there, because you cannot keep going on that exercise.
she still wants to play but i'm not getting anything it's not as solid as it was
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Alright I think Dulce is about cooked for this round, she's about done.
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we're going to do a boogeyman, a quick boogeyman. This is going to be one and done. I'm just going to hope that we can get some kind of reaction out of her.
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so you have to do a few of them as you go and then make progress from there you can't just keep going on that exercise
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Sage
Sage explains why her videos look like people sitting around. With a sensitive dog the repetition count is not a target: a rep is asked only when she is back at baseline, and between repetitions there may be ten or fifteen minutes of nothing in particular. The trade is stated to her owners in the lesson - a longer program with fewer total repetitions, which is acceptable because what makes a repetition count is how clear it was, not how many there were. The rule is then given in its blunt form: fewer reps with her in a good emotional state, rather than pushing through, because pushing through does not do much good. Sessions have a named last step - walk around, recover, all pressure off - rather than simply stopping. And the go-home lesson adds the environmental cap: her outdoor sessions rarely ran past thirty minutes, because of the heat, and towards the end of each one she would be done.
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Let's just walk for a bit. I don't want to get you shut down already
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Bullet
Bullet's file is the one where the dosing judgement is shown from both ends and where the trainer twice names his own error. On day one, at a park, forty-one minutes is called near the limit and the session is wound up with the reason attached - going too long can actually be counterproductive on a first day. Two sessions are checked against the clock mid-session. But the other direction happens too: on an indoor place hold the dog begins to settle, and the trainer extends the exercise rather than ending it, because the duration is the experience worth having. Later, pushing a place criterion, he reads the dog as having had too much and backs off; and on an off-leash morning at the same park he loses a two-minute hold at about ninety seconds and says plainly whose fault that was - I was going for two minutes, got greedy.
that we've been out here but about 41 minutes so um i'm getting pretty close to calling it here for him just because this is his first day so going too long can actually be counterproductive
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he's kind of starting to settle a little bit so we're going to let him settle and we're going to do it like a longer duration thing here it's good experience for him
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you did good you tried he said i made it a minute and a half boss or like a minute i was going for two minutes got greedy
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because he's looking like he's just he's getting a little like it's been too much but i think that
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tell you what you walk around I'm gonna check see how long it's been all right about 20 minutes roughly hey 17 minutes or so exactly
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bo
Bo contributes the three words the whole idea travels on. On a public trail, after a heel block that has already loaded the dog up, a planned down repetition is cancelled - not because it went badly but because it went well enough to have cost something - and the reason given is slow is fast. The remaining time goes to decompression. It is the pacing philosophy stated as a claim about the whole program rather than about one session: doing less today is the faster route through. Bo's go-home lesson supplies a different figure entirely, and the distinction matters - the thirty-minutes-to-three-hours range there is the length of the client handover, not of a training session.
boy go go go and since that loaded him up a little bit already i think i'll just let him decompress
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now and then i'm not going to do another down rip slow is fast so i'm going to leave it alone i'll
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i'm gonna lower the criteria next time get a little bit of a shorter rep in
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We normally keep it somewhere between 30 minutes of the shortest and like On the long end I've had ones go like three hours
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the good thing is you don't need your session to be forever if you accomplish something
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I don't, truthfully, if I pushed him with that level of intensity for an hour, he would be like, bro, you got me done dirty, right?
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now i think that actually i think i worked slightly too hard it'll be fine but i might maybe wait a little bit longer between because right now he's showing very light signs of just a little bit of like a drilling commands too fast so his brain's a little just a little out of it
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like i feel like we've been doing the commands back and forth a lot sometimes you can drill a dog too fast so maybe just for the next minute or two we can just like walk around and not like really command a ton
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so you always need to allow enough time for them to reset return to baseline and actually be rewarded by the freedom that you give them and not just like okay i'm on a recall simulator and i go right back to it every time
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Now we've done a lot in these 10 minutes, I'm going to let her wander around and do her thing.
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I say all I do is overwork a doggie.
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I think it won't be hard, but his performance will go down a lot if I overwork him.
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Luna Taps out about 25 minutes. I think we got like five more minutes before she's like, I'm done.
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Cause usually I would go for 15 or 20 minutes. She pooped out at like nine minutes. So this is when I try to give her the time she needs.
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good thing is like i said this only needs to be like five or ten minutes it's just kind of uh to catch everything back up
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that we've been out here but about 41 minutes so um i'm getting pretty close to calling it here for him just because this is his first day so going too long can actually be counterproductive
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tell you what you walk around I'm gonna check see how long it's been all right about 20 minutes roughly hey 17 minutes or so exactly
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he's kind of starting to settle a little bit so we're going to let him settle and we're going to do it like a longer duration thing here it's good experience for him
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you did good you tried he said i made it a minute and a half boss or like a minute i was going for two minutes got greedy
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because he's looking like he's just he's getting a little like it's been too much but i think that
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now and then i'm not going to do another down rip slow is fast so i'm going to leave it alone i'll
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boy go go go and since that loaded him up a little bit already i think i'll just let him decompress
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We normally keep it somewhere between 30 minutes of the shortest and like On the long end I've had ones go like three hours
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normally i don't look for more than like like definitely i don't want to have more than like two of those in a session because you start like getting you can't have a bunch of that like that that is that's an intense experience for the dog
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like in a walk and the dog thinks every time they go out they're gonna have like four of those that's very intense
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allowing a lot of decompression time because the biggest way to repress a dog is to throw him over and over and over like that
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she still wants to play but i'm not getting anything it's not as solid as it was
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Alright I think Dulce is about cooked for this round, she's about done.
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This is going to be one and done.
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so you have to do a few of them as you go and then make progress from there you can't just keep going on that exercise
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most of the outdoor sessions don't take a lot of more longer than like 30 minutes i think there's like two that were longer than 30 minutes they were outdoors that's because of the heat because like towards the end of every one of them she'd be like i'm not doing anything else
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so if we're going to do another session we should probably put him in a kennel
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How the trainers explain it
The trainers give three reasons and they stack. The first is attention: a fifteen-minute burst is chosen because it buys "quality time" (QWxeAfBdYAo, 09:55), and past a certain point what you are adding is repetitions the dog is no longer present for - "his brain's a little just a little out of it" (EL-La0eKp0Q, 15:22). The second is the reward economy. Freedom is the payment, and payment only works if there is enough of it to be worth having: without the gaps "i'm on a recall simulator" (acb6qFCsYww, 14:12), and a dog on a recall simulator is not being paid for anything. That is why the ratio, not the length, is the number the trainers reach for - ninety-ten, ten minutes of work to ten of play - and why one of them says flatly that the breaks are "how they learn better" (hZ-TFT8vydk, 17:58) rather than a courtesy. The third is cost, and it is the one stated as a warning: repetition stacked on repetition is not merely wasted, it is the active mechanism of harm - "the biggest way to repress a dog is to throw him over and over and over like that" (FZ4UONAzt8s, 09:25) - and on a high-intensity exercise the cost lands on the dog's appetite for the whole activity, so that going out starts to mean dread (1gehMYFqsr4, 02:44). Physiology is treated as part of the same account rather than as an excuse: heat, tiredness and fear are described as shortening a session in the same breath (acb6qFCsYww, 12:15), which is why the answers to a hot day range from pools in the yard to an earlier start to a shorter loop. What is inferred rather than stated: nobody explains where fifteen minutes comes from, or why ninety-ten rather than eighty-twenty is the right opening ratio for a nervous dog. The figures are consistent across five handlers and nine dogs, which is itself evidence of a house practice, but no one in this corpus tests them, and the two most vivid statements of the rule are trainers naming their own overshoot after the fact.
Differences to review
Whether the dose is a fixed number or a reading of the dog.
First perspective
It is a number you set in advance. Fifteen-minute bursts, three a day, is the shape of the work, and the clock gets checked mid-session to see how long it has been.
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Second perspective
It is a state you read. The session ends when the quality drops, when the dog is hot, when the attention goes - and the dog's willingness is explicitly not the signal.
she still wants to play but i'm not getting anything it's not as solid as it was
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How to read this comparison
Nobody on camera sets these against each other, and Luna's file is the closest thing to a reconciliation: a per-dog figure is named in advance - twenty-five minutes, or fifteen to twenty - and then overridden on the day she gives out at nine. Read that way the number is a plan and the state is the veto. But the two are genuinely different instruments: a number lets a handler schedule a day with several dogs in it, which is what a board-and-train needs, and a reading does not. Which one a given session ran on is usually not recoverable from the footage.
What to do at the moment the dog goes quiet: stop, or extend.
First perspective
Stop. The settle or the good repetition is the moment to end on, and the maxim is that doing less today is the faster route - a planned exercise is cancelled because the previous block already spent the dog.
now and then i'm not going to do another down rip slow is fast so i'm going to leave it alone i'll
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you did good you tried he said i made it a minute and a half boss or like a minute i was going for two minutes got greedy
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Second perspective
Extend. Settling is the green light rather than the finish line, and the duration itself is the experience worth having, so the exercise is deliberately made longer at the moment the dog relaxes into it.
he's kind of starting to settle a little bit so we're going to let him settle and we're going to do it like a longer duration thing here it's good experience for him
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How to read this comparison
Both positions come from Bullet's own file, ten days apart, and one of them is later marked by the trainer as his own error on a different exercise ('got greedy'). The distinction that would resolve it - extend a settle, do not extend a worked repetition - is never stated by anyone on camera, and an owner given only one half will either quit a place hold at the useful moment or grind a heel past it. See `the-settle-criterion` and `one-good-rep-then-stop`.
Questions and answers
How long should I train my dog for each day?
The one stated schedule in this corpus is about fifteen minutes at a time, up to three times a day - and the reason given is not that more would be unkind but that it would stop being quality time. Other files put the same shape differently: about twenty to twenty-five minutes when the session had three specific goals in it, a dog who taps out at twenty-five, a handler who says all the dogs he has right now give him about fifteen minutes so he splits the day up. Nobody on camera defends a long session. The nearest thing to one is a first day at a park that ran forty-one minutes, and the trainer stopped it there saying going too long can be counterproductive.
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that we've been out here but about 41 minutes so um i'm getting pretty close to calling it here for him just because this is his first day so going too long can actually be counterproductive
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How much of that fifteen minutes should actually be commands?
Much less than you would guess. Working a nervous dog on a trail, a trainer put a number on it: early on, ninety per cent of the session is just walking and ten per cent is commands, and sometimes it is ninety-five to five. As the dog gets comfortable that moves toward eighty-twenty, and seventy-thirty is described as a really intense session. Another handler gives it as ten minutes of work to ten minutes of play and says outright that this is how they learn better. The point is not to be gentle; it is that the freedom is what you are paying the dog with, and if there is not enough of it the dog is on what he calls a recall simulator and the repetitions stop meaning anything.
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How do I know when to stop?
By the quality of the work, not by the clock and not by whether the dog still wants to carry on. The clearest version is said over a tug: she still wants to play, but he is not getting anything and it is not as solid as it was, so it ends there. The same call is made on obedience - the answers get slower, the dog is showing very light signs of being drilled too fast, he is panting and slowing down in the heat. With a sensitive dog the rule is put the other way round: fewer repetitions with the dog in a good state beats pushing through, because pushing through does not do much good. If you are still unsure, the useful question is whether the next repetition is likely to be as good as the last one. If it is not, you have already had the last one.
she still wants to play but i'm not getting anything it's not as solid as it was
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now i think that actually i think i worked slightly too hard it'll be fine but i might maybe wait a little bit longer between because right now he's showing very light signs of just a little bit of like a drilling commands too fast so his brain's a little just a little out of it
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He has gone flat halfway through. Should I push on and finish properly?
No. Two different answers in this corpus, and both of them are to stop. Outdoors, the answer is to lower the criteria, take a shorter and easier repetition, and give the rest of the time to decompression - slow is fast. Indoors, the staff answer is more mechanical: end the session, put him in a kennel so he can rest, and run another one later to find out whether the flatness was the dog or the day, with company considered as part of the answer. What nobody does is add repetitions to a dog who has stopped being present for them.
boy go go go and since that loaded him up a little bit already i think i'll just let him decompress
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so if we're going to do another session we should probably put him in a kennel
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My dog just came home from a board-and-train. How much should I practise?
Less than you will want to. The handover lessons say this explicitly, and they say it because it is what families do: the commands are new and exciting, so you run them again and again, and drilling them over and over is what makes the dog shut down. The advice in the same breath is to break the work up across the day rather than to do it all at once, because these dogs give about fifteen minutes each. There is an alternative to practice sessions altogether, and it is the better answer for most households - use the commands when there is an actual reason to, rather than setting aside a slot for drilling them.
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like i feel like we've been doing the commands back and forth a lot sometimes you can drill a dog too fast so maybe just for the next minute or two we can just like walk around and not like really command a ton
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It is hot. Should I skip training?
Not skip it - redesign it. On camera the heat is treated as a fact about the dog's biology that shortens the session, not as an excuse being made for him, and the responses are practical and varied: put big pools out and let her cool down before the sit work starts, loop the walk back into the shade rather than carry on, move a flat-faced breed's session earlier in the day, and expect the outdoor work to end at around thirty minutes because the dog will be done. One trainer names the general principle: being overwhelmed, scared or anxious shortens a training session in the same way the environment does.
because of the heat we got pools like big dog pools for them so you see that blue thing
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Is there anything I should only do once or twice in a session?
Yes, and the trainers are stricter about it than about anything else. Anything with real intensity in it gets a hard ceiling. On Lola's bolt-and-recall work the limit is two per session, and the reason is not that the third would fail but that a dog who comes to expect four of those every time she goes out finds going out intense. In the protection work a first repetition of a new exercise is planned as one and done before it happens, and the sleeve introduction is given the same rule - a few of them, then move on, because you cannot keep going on that exercise. Ordinary obedience is dosed more loosely, but the same principle applies at the end: do not finish on the hard thing, and do not finish by putting the dog straight in the car.
normally i don't look for more than like like definitely i don't want to have more than like two of those in a session because you start like getting you can't have a bunch of that like that that is that's an intense experience for the dog
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This is going to be one and done.
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so you have to do a few of them as you go and then make progress from there you can't just keep going on that exercise
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Teaching outline
The handler can plan a session before it starts - length, number of hard repetitions, ratio of work to freedom - and can end it on the dog's state rather than on the plan, naming out loud which signal ended it.
13:23
The reset ratio given with numbers, on a trail, with the dog doing the sniffing being described.
14:19
A planned repetition cancelled at the moment the previous block has spent the dog, with 'slow is fast' as the reason.
10:35
The ending criterion applied to a dog who is still keen: the quality has gone, so the round ends.
11:16
The opposite call, so the handler sees both: the dog settles, so the exercise is extended rather than closed.
Before the session, say three things out loud: how long you intend it to be, how many hard repetitions it will contain, and what you are trying to accomplish. Fifteen minutes, two hard reps, one goal is a reasonable opening. Then run it at roughly nine parts walking to one part commands, timing nothing but noticing when the dog returns to baseline before each ask. End on whichever comes first: the goal met, the quality dropping, or the dog's state changing - and say which one it was. Do not end on the hard repetition; take an ordinary easy one somewhere pleasant and then finish. If the dog went flat, stop, put him away, and run a second short session later the same day rather than extending this one. (Deuce QWxeAfBdYAo and EL-La0eKp0Q; Kodak acb6qFCsYww and oVp7j539WAc; Lola 1gehMYFqsr4; Bo LtSQn0jDRLI; Sage r4uhFr23jtc.)
Counting minutes instead of counting quality repetitions.
Running the whole walk as commands, so that the freedom stops being payment.
Reading willingness as capacity, especially on play and bite work.
Repeating a failed repetition rather than lowering the criteria and shortening the next.
Stacking the hard reps close together, which is the mechanism of repression rather than a shortcut.
Ending on the pressure, or ending by loading the dog into the vehicle.
Extending a worked repetition because the dog is doing well, which is the error one trainer names on himself as greed.
You planned twenty minutes. At eleven minutes the dog has done the thing you came for, and he is still bright and willing. What do you do? (Stop. The session is measured by whether it accomplished something, not by the plan - and a bright, willing dog at the end is the state you wanted to finish in.)
Common mistakes
Drilling the new commands when the dog comes home, because it is exciting and it works - which is precisely what shuts the dog down.
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Treating an hour of repeated commands as more training than twenty minutes with breaks in it.
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Filling the whole walk with commands. If the dog never gets long enough to reset, the freedom stops paying for anything and the repetitions stop being repetitions.
so you always need to allow enough time for them to reset return to baseline and actually be rewarded by the freedom that you give them and not just like okay i'm on a recall simulator and i go right back to it every time
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Reading the dog's enthusiasm as capacity. She may still want to play long after the work has stopped being worth anything.
she still wants to play but i'm not getting anything it's not as solid as it was
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Repeating the hard repetition instead of lowering the criteria and shortening the next one.
i'm gonna lower the criteria next time get a little bit of a shorter rep in
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Ending a hard session by putting the dog straight in the car, which teaches him that the car is where the relief is.
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Working through the heat rather than designing the session around it - moving it earlier, looping back into shade, or putting the dog in water first.
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because of the heat we got pools like big dog pools for them so you see that blue thing
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What to notice
Your training sessions end because you have run out of things to practise, not because the dog has run out.
Luna Taps out about 25 minutes. I think we got like five more minutes before she's like, I'm done.
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He was good for the first ten minutes and then got sloppy, and you kept going to fix the sloppiness.
now i think that actually i think i worked slightly too hard it'll be fine but i might maybe wait a little bit longer between because right now he's showing very light signs of just a little bit of like a drilling commands too fast so his brain's a little just a little out of it
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The walk has become a series of commands, and he no longer seems pleased to be let off them.
so you always need to allow enough time for them to reset return to baseline and actually be rewarded by the freedom that you give them and not just like okay i'm on a recall simulator and i go right back to it every time
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He has started to be reluctant about going out at all, and the outings have had a lot of hard moments in them lately.
like in a walk and the dog thinks every time they go out they're gonna have like four of those that's very intense
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The dog came home from a program doing everything, and a fortnight of enthusiastic practice later he is doing less of it.
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In summer he stops working after a few minutes and you have read it as stubbornness.
most of the outdoor sessions don't take a lot of more longer than like 30 minutes i think there's like two that were longer than 30 minutes they were outdoors that's because of the heat because like towards the end of every one of them she'd be like i'm not doing anything else
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Trainer notes
Stated schedule, from one file only: about fifteen-minute bursts, three a day per dog (QWxeAfBdYAo 09:55). Working figures elsewhere: twenty to twenty-five minutes with three goals (EL-La0eKp0Q 17:05); Luna twenty-five (sGg43jVnIoA 10:08), fifteen to twenty as the normal unit, nine on a hot day, answered by splitting the day (i98aSvxxGoc 03:04, 02:45); Sage's outdoor sessions rarely past thirty because of heat (_dxIVlI-YCM 35:12); Bullet's first day near the limit at forty-one (D21wCTr8D-0 41:49). Ratios: 90/10 or 95/5 early, 80/20 as the dog settles, 70/30 as the intense ceiling (acb6qFCsYww 13:40, 14:02); ten work to ten play (hZ-TFT8vydk 17:58). Hard-rep caps: two bolt-and-recall events per session (1gehMYFqsr4 02:30); one and done for a first protection rep (V-FZGHhXym4 00:07); a few sleeve reps then move on (2H9Qeyb_LZg 09:41). Ending criteria, in the order they appear: quality of the work rather than the dog's willingness (99af-CSVZWY 10:35); the very light signs of drilling too fast, answered with more space between reps rather than fewer reps (EL-La0eKp0Q 15:17); the threshold of smooth brain, deliberately stopped a couple of minutes short of it (ESabGwCrO7Q 08:18); heat and stamina (i3DvS2rz7bY 02:10, IG4K4d5swqE 00:08). Closing sequence for a stressful session: reset in place, send the dog back out to sniff, take one ordinary rep, then finish - never straight into the vehicle (1gehMYFqsr4 02:54, E709BUJLKbg 23:02). Session-scale reset, indoor staff: end it, kennel him, re-run later to test whether it was the dog or the day; consider company (oVp7j539WAc 26:09, 26:25). Per-dog setting: shorter and more frequent for this dog, stated on low-confidence audio and repeated three times (0pQ1NtbmUWY 01:26). Programme variable worth tracking: the tune-up needed before a dog can work shrinks week by week and is near zero by go-home (4L4vqzKd0sM 04:06). And the counter-rule: when a dog settles into a duration hold, extend rather than close (0FXGTWW9QLs 11:16) - the only place in this concept where more is the answer, and the trainer who does it elsewhere names his own overshoot as greed (juKx-3wMszo 22:35).
By trainer
Kelton
Where he is identifiable by name, the dose is set by the day's context rather than by a figure. On Bullet's first day he runs a long exploratory forty-one minutes and then stops with the reason attached - first day, going too long can be counterproductive. At Sage's handover he gives the environmental cap rather than a schedule: her outdoor sessions rarely ran past thirty minutes, and it was heat that set that, and he says in the same passage that he will still make her do a command she has been asked for.
that we've been out here but about 41 minutes so um i'm getting pretty close to calling it here for him just because this is his first day so going too long can actually be counterproductive
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most of the outdoor sessions don't take a lot of more longer than like 30 minutes i think there's like two that were longer than 30 minutes they were outdoors that's because of the heat because like towards the end of every one of them she'd be like i'm not doing anything else
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always take that kind of stuff into account ultimately i'm still like if i ask her to do a command i'm still gonna make her do it if she doesn't do it right away
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Connor
In the one file where he names himself, the dose arrives as a live intervention in front of the owners: he stops the back-and-forth mid-lesson, says a dog can be drilled too fast, and has the owner simply walk for a minute or two. In Luna's handover - where the identification is the Tier 1 note's inference rather than a self-introduction - the same idea is given as the household rule: all his current dogs give about fifteen minutes, so the sessions get broken up across the day, and the warning is aimed squarely at the family's excitement.
like i feel like we've been doing the commands back and forth a lot sometimes you can drill a dog too fast so maybe just for the next minute or two we can just like walk around and not like really command a ton
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Equipment context
Dog pools
Set out in the yard on hot days so the session can be run around cooling rather than shortened. The dog goes in and out of one through the block, and the obedience work starts after she has cooled down.
because of the heat we got pools like big dog pools for them so you see that blue thing
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Kennel
Used as a session-scale reset rather than as containment: when a dog has gone flat, the session ends, the dog is kennelled to rest, and a second session is run later to find out whether the state was the dog or the day.
so if we're going to do another session we should probably put him in a kennel
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Long line
Carries the rationed bolt-and-recall repetitions, which is the exercise in this corpus with the tightest dose limit - no more than two in a session.
well mostly i'm just looking for a few of them and then i judge by i go out with a long line like this again walk around see what they do and then i recall
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Tug
The ending criterion is read off it directly: when the grips stop being solid the round ends, even though the dog is still keen to play.
she still wants to play but i'm not getting anything it's not as solid as it was
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The truck
Named as something a session must not end with straight after pressure, because it teaches the dog where relief lives. Also the air-conditioned recovery spot on hot days.
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One option is put her in the truck right go home other option is Give her a wind down right because she's like whoa right. She's just had some intense interactions here where she's had Like been negatively reinforced with a recall and it's shady over here, so I'm just gonna go okay good girl and let her go Explore over here, and then you can like end on a pretty good note right
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you did good you tried he said i made it a minute and a half boss or like a minute i was going for two minutes got greedy
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we're going to do a boogeyman, a quick boogeyman. This is going to be one and done. I'm just going to hope that we can get some kind of reaction out of her.
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Case story beats
bo
A trainer on a public trail has just got the heel block he came for. The dog is up, the work is good, and the next thing on the plan is a down. He cancels it - because the block that went well is exactly what makes the next one expensive - and says the three words the whole idea runs on.
boy go go go and since that loaded him up a little bit already i think i'll just let him decompress
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now and then i'm not going to do another down rip slow is fast so i'm going to leave it alone i'll
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Bullet
A handler in a park loses a two-minute place hold at about ninety seconds, and instead of correcting the dog he praises him and takes the blame on camera: he was going for two minutes, and he got greedy. It is the same trainer whose files elsewhere cancel repetitions to avoid exactly this.
you did good you tried he said i made it a minute and a half boss or like a minute i was going for two minutes got greedy
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Lola
Explaining his most effective exercise to a colleague, a trainer stops to put a ceiling on it. Two per session, no more - not because the third would fail, but because a dog who thinks every outing contains four of those will stop wanting to go out. Then he refuses to end the session on it, and sends her back out to sniff first.
normally i don't look for more than like like definitely i don't want to have more than like two of those in a session because you start like getting you can't have a bunch of that like that that is that's an intense experience for the dog
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like in a walk and the dog thinks every time they go out they're gonna have like four of those that's very intense
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Luna
A dog who normally gives twenty-five minutes gives out at nine on a hot day. Rather than push, the trainer takes her in, comes back later, and runs a five-minute catch-up session instead - and says it into the camera as though it were unremarkable, which in this business it is.
Cause usually I would go for 15 or 20 minutes. She pooped out at like nine minutes. So this is when I try to give her the time she needs.
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good thing is like i said this only needs to be like five or ten minutes it's just kind of uh to catch everything back up
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Questions for intake
How long do you currently train for, and how many times a day? The answer separates the owner who does nothing from the owner who does an hour at once, and those two need opposite advice.
When you practise, how much of the time is the dog being asked for something? Most owners have never counted, and the ninety-ten figure is the single most correctable thing in this concept.
What ends your training sessions at the moment - the clock, the dog, or you running out of ideas?
Has your dog ever gone flat, slow or blank partway through a walk or a training session, and what did you do next?
Does your dog ever seem reluctant to go out? If so, what usually happens on those outings?
How does your dog do in the heat, and does his breed or coat cap what you can do outdoors in summer? A flat-faced or heavy-coated dog changes the session plan before anything else does.
When the dog comes home from the program, who in the household is most likely to want to show the commands off, and how often?
Still to establish
Where does fifteen minutes come from? It is stated as a working figure by at least three handlers about six different dogs, and the figures agree, but nobody on camera says whether it is a house standard, a scheduling constraint, or an observation. The distinction matters for what the business tells owners.
Is the ninety-ten ratio a nervous-dog opening or the general opening? It is stated once, about a flight-risk case, and generalised in the same breath to 'every dog'. No other file gives a ratio in percentages.
The arc for Lola records a fixed four-week program that governs method choice. How does a four-week cap interact with a dog whose working budget is nine minutes on a hot day? Nobody on camera does that arithmetic out loud.
Who decides the number of sessions a dog gets in a day, and is it recorded anywhere? Deuce's three-a-day and Luna's split day are both stated by the handler as his own practice. No schedule, ledger or standard is referred to.
The 'reset by kennel' answer - end it, put him away, run another later to see whether the demeanour changes - appears only in the indoor staff's files. The outdoor trainers answer the same problem by working through it differently. Whether that is two policies or two rooms is not established.
Nobody in the corpus reports a session that was too short. The failure mode is always overshoot. Is there a floor, and does a five-minute maintenance session actually maintain anything?
Source limitations
Speaker identity is unrecoverable for most statements here. Two are firm: Kelton names himself in Bullet's D21wCTr8D-0 and in Sage's _dxIVlI-YCM, and Connor names himself once in Deuce's 5K5ivI_ocfg. Luna's _TVllc3GPIQ is attributed to Connor by inference in the Tier 1 note, not by a self-introduction. Sage's qUfrNTjawRA has a self-introduction the captions render as 'Kelvin'; the file never spells Kelton, so the identification is a reading.
Luna's QZZDVkQFLeU 16:01 and 16:11 both carry the low-confidence marker, and so does every cue in Kodak's 0pQ1NtbmUWY 01:26-01:46. Neither claim rests on those cues alone: the fifteen-to-twenty figure is stated in high-confidence audio in i98aSvxxGoc and _TVllc3GPIQ, and the shorter-sessions plan is repeated three times inside twenty seconds.
Roxy's 4L4vqzKd0sM 22:41 reads 'I say all I do is overwork a doggie', which is almost certainly a mistranscription - the following cue makes the intended sense plain ('his performance will go down a lot if I overwork him'). The quote is reproduced as the transcript has it and the reading is this reader's.
Sage's r4uhFr23jtc 18:33 quote contains an ellipsis carried over from the Tier 1 note, which joined two cues that are not adjacent. It is marked rather than tidied.
Several quotes begin mid-cue because the sentence starts inside a cue - Luna's _TVllc3GPIQ 37:23 and 38:12, Bullet's 5wYCwuAkm60 13:56, Bo's LtSQn0jDRLI 14:26 and 14:40. They are reproduced from the transcript as it stands.
Bo's Rse9I-CW35g gives a thirty-minutes-to-three-hours range. That is the length of the client handover lesson, not of a training session, and it is kept here only because it is the one place in the corpus where anybody is asked about a time cap and answers.
Roxy's 4L4vqzKd0sM works Ramsey, the second dog of the same household; Roxy is discussed but not present. It is filed under Roxy because the case is the household's.
Dolce's name is rendered 'Dulce' throughout 5d5o7QjZ-cs and V-FZGHhXym4.
None of the sessions cited here is a near-silent duration recording, so protocol rule 13 does not add or subtract anything from this concept's counts. The long place holds bear on `the-settle-criterion` rather than on session dosing.
Connected library collections
These links follow eligible video assignments in the reviewed library. A source can feature more than one animal; the older research-folder name is not used to merge identities.
Related concepts
- Can I practise a command too much?
- How many repetitions should I ask for?
- Can it be too hot to train?
- What do I do right after correcting my dog?
- Should my dog heel for the whole walk?
- My dog shuts down during training - what do I do?
- How long should my dog hold a place command?
- Why does my dog obey in one spot and not another?
- Where and when should I train my dog?
- How can I tell what my dog is feeling?