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Place, settle and calm · A raised texture, and never a punishment

What is place, and what should it mean to my dog?

Place is any raised surface your dog stays on until you release him: four paws up, any position he likes. It's his calm spot, and trainers disagree on whether it should ever be a time-out.

The answer

Place is a spot the dog stays on until he is released, and in this program the spot is raised off the floor. On film the trainers say what place is more firmly than what it is for.

What it is. Place is anything raised off the ground: 'it can be a table it can be a cot it can be anything' (Bullet's owner visit). The reason is given in nearly the same words in at least six dogs' files. A raised edge lets the dog feel whether he is on it or off it. A mat doesn't, because a paw on the floor at the edge 'doesn't feel really any different' (Zeus's lesson); a blanket or towel on the floor fails the same way - the dog drifts half off and does not 'register a big difference' (Kali and Kane), and it's 'hard for him to distinguish his body being fully on the towel' from being on the floor (Reaper). Because the dog can check the rule for himself, putting him back when he steps off makes sense to him: 'it's like clear as day to them like why they're getting penalized' (King). Sputnik's trainer picks the cot for the same reason: 'the boundaries are clear'. Fiona's trainer replaces a low dog bed with a cot at the owner's house because 'it's raised from the floor' and 'helps him to stay there longer'. The cot is recommended over other raised things because it is light, portable and cool to lie on. King's trainer adds that a big, hot dog will prefer it to a pillow. The rule itself is one physical fact. On Zeus's account, place is 'all four paws are on the cot' and nothing else: he may stand, sit, lie down or roll over. On Luna's, 'the paws can't touch the ground', and two paws hanging over the edge is fine. Two September owner lessons say the same: 'the only rule is all four paws on the place pad... they don't have to be sitting they don't have to be laying down' (Kali and Kane), and a dog on place 'can stand up, spin around, lay down a different way' (Reaper). Some handlers ask for a sit or a down on the cot as well (Callie's go-home, Fiona's follow-up), but Zeus's trainer says you don't have to 'unless you want him to do that for some reason'. Because nothing but the four paws is asked, place is the command that can be stretched: Kelton (Reaper's trainer) would not leave a dog in a sit beyond about five minutes, but place extends 'to almost any duration', and Kali and Kane's says its duration 'can scale to like multiple hours and it's not hard on the dog'.

Where it goes. The same word is taken off the cot onto whatever is raised: a rock in a park (Sage, Callie), a store fixture (Bullet in a Ross, Fiona in a Bass Pro Shops), a park bench (Bullet at Lake Benson, King downtown), a low platform in a park (King), and the trainer's own dog on a picnic table (Zeus's lesson). Pepper's trainer gives the boundary in one line: a cot a couple of inches up or a park bench can be place, but 'anything on the ground is then just a command like a down'. The footage shows this working. It also shows that the climb onto a new object can be the sticking point. Bullet needs several cues and an 'ah ah' to get up on a store fixture and a bench, and his trainer considers splitting the cue into 'up up' to get on and 'place' to stay. One handler explains why it travels: the cots all feel the same, so the dog learns to 'find that texture'. That's his explanation, not something the film tests.

What it should mean. Here the files agree on one thing and disagree on another. They agree that place is a choice and not a lock. Unlike a crate, 'here they aren't physically locked in', so staying teaches patience and lets an excited dog be 'present, be around' while calming herself (Callie's go-home). For a nervous dog it is offered as 'a secure area for them to feel more relaxed and comfortable' (Finn). Louie's trainer treats calm on the cot as the practice ground for calm in the house. Day to day it is a household tool: the front door, cooking, guests, and the kennel staff parking Fiona on the cot while they mop. They disagree about punishment. In Bo's crate-aggression case the trainer says emphatically that 'we can't act like these places are punishments for him we don't do time out with the dogs in these cases'. Callie's family's gated area is renamed from time-out to 'my sanctuary', with 'no timeouts unless she does something that's absolutely not acceptable'. But at Sputnik's go-home the trainer corrects Sputnik for spoiling another dog's play and then puts him on the place cot 'in timeout', then lets him back out to play. That is the first time in this concept's evidence that a trainer uses place after a punishment on film. Both positions are set out below and neither is chosen here.

What is said and what is inferred. Said on film: raised, all four paws, position free unless a position is asked for, put back when he breaks it, built up in duration, used around the house. Inferred here and not shown: that texture is what makes place travel, and that calm on a cot carries over to calm in the rest of the house. Both are trainers' explanations. The recordings show the outcome, not how it came about.

A wider reading of the session record adds sixteen dogs and settles one point that was inferred. The texture explanation is now acted on, on film. At the GSD puppy Shadow's home, Connor re-teaches place on the family's own bed because 'it is like a texture different' from the training cots, and he has to make the rules the same there. This shows the trainers treat a new surface as a new place to teach. It still doesn't show that texture is what makes place travel elsewhere. The elevation reason is given again in more dogs' lessons: flat dog beds make it 'harder for the dog to distinguish whether they're on the cot or off the cot in their minds' (Rocky), and placing on the bare floor leaves the dog not knowing what is wanted (Ozzy). The object also has to fit. It must be high enough and wide enough that paws don't hang off (Bernie), not too small (Thumper), and not slippery (Max's bench). The cot's comfort is named again too: raised mesh is 'comfy' and 'cool' (Penny), and air reaches the dog from underneath (Major's lesson). And the all-four-paws rule gets its plainest statement: 'the most black and white command possible' (Bubba Gum).

Angier K9 is a family-owned, play-based Board & Train serving Angier, Raleigh and the Triangle, with three full owner lessons.

What to do

Use a raised cot, not a floor bed or mat, so your dog can feel where the edge is (watch 86:05; watch 01:24). The rule is all four paws up and nothing else. He can sit, stand or lie down unless you ask for a position (watch 87:32; watch 33:17). If he steps off before you release him, put him back every time (watch 02:29). Build the time up gradually. Around ten minutes is a trainer's goal time, and fifteen to twenty is a go-home standard (watch 06:02; watch 43:06). Use it in daily life: while you eat, watch TV, open the front door or cook (watch 25:22; watch 06:23). Don't make the spot he has to live in into a punishment. Ask your trainer whether a short spell on the cot after a correction is right for your dog, because the trainers answer that differently on film (watch 09:52; watch 26:00).

What the trainers say

Because for place, it's easier for them to understand when it's off the ground.

trainer answering the owners' question about the equipment list at the end of a park visit · Bullet · Watch at 24:46 ↗

so it can be a table it can be a cot it can be anything but we we recommend the cops because they're they're light they're easy to move around and like when I go camping stuff I bring a cop with me and my dogs know like that's the place

Bullet · Watch at 24:53 ↗

it's gonna be outside and stuff like that too like I have one in outside of one in the house I have one on my deck and so like no matter what the temperature is they don't overheat because it's cool underneath

same trainer · Bullet · Watch at 25:16 ↗

because they all feel the same, roughly, like the texture's the same. When we say place, then they know like, oh, find that texture too. And so like their brains recognize like find that texture so it can move locations where they can still find it.

same trainer · Bullet · Watch at 25:52 ↗

Good. I've seen you climb lots of stuff. Place. Ah ah. Bullet, come on, up here. Place. Place.

trainer on a store field trip · Bullet · Watch at 1:07 ↗

I might just tell him up up instead and then tell him place to stay on it

handler narrating an off-leash park session · Bullet · Watch at 30:55 ↗

So you can see he's all the way over there on the bench.

same handler · Bullet · Watch at 31:08 ↗

Up, up, up. Place.

Bullet's handler on an evening park walk · Bullet · Watch at 10:28 ↗

i like the cot uh for two reasons one because he's big and stuffy and pillow versus cot in terms of temperature he's gonna prefer the cot very likely just because uh they get hot on the pillows um and then but on the cot it's raised off the ground

King · Watch at 38:53 ↗

it's really easy for them to distinguish the difference between where you left them and where they went so then if they get off the cot then it's like clear as day to them like why they're getting penalized why they have to go back

King · Watch at 39:48 ↗

that's why i recommend the cot is because one is really cool um like temperature wise and the other reason is because it's very clear for the dog like what the boundary of the place you left them is

King · Watch at 40:04 ↗

right you got the kennel the other two options are you can just stick them on place if you really wanted to just be completely out of the way and not have to worry about it at all or the other option is you can let him do what he's doing right and you can enforce calm liberty

King · Watch at 44:19 ↗

people's first thought is is sit, down, place. They band-aid it with obedience. Don't do that. Don't band-aid it with obedience. Instead, just tell them to stop doing that thing.

King · Watch at 47:47 ↗

So as an example, you can leave him on the bench.

handler on a downtown walk · King · Watch at 9:04 ↗

Alright so Kings done really good on like holding his command for a longer duration with distractions more distractions there were dogs walking by and stuff like that this whole time

trainer on a solo park session · King · Watch at 25:05 ↗

place is on top of anything he runs there it can be on top of anything um i normally initially teach them on like just like a place cot like that like a bed like this a raised place cot's the best the reason that it you can place a dog on top of anything as long as it is raised off the ground a little bit

Kelton - trainer running the second in-program owner lesson · Zeus · Watch at 1:25:44 ↗

say i place him on top of this this mat that'll work because it's not very clear to him if he's on the mat or off the mat like if his feet are off on the other end or he stands up and puts his paws out on the floor it doesn't feel really any different it's not very clear to him where the boundaries are

Kelton - same trainer · Zeus · Watch at 1:26:05 ↗

not very clear to him where the boundaries are if he steps his foot off that he knows the difference between being on top of that thing and not being on top of it or you could place him on top of something like this or on a park bench or on a picnic table actually I leave my dog on a picnic table relatively frequently

Kelton - same trainer · Zeus · Watch at 1:26:26 ↗

Because that's what places for places for like immobilizing them for a minute

Kelton - same trainer · Zeus · Watch at 1:27:04 ↗

you can break down something like that don't matter as long as all four paws are on the cot then there's that's it that's that's what the command means um so you don't have to say place and then sit or placing them down unless you want him to do that for some reason

Kelton - same trainer · Zeus · Watch at 1:27:32 ↗

of the reasons that a lot of times one of the first things we do with the dog is teaching place just because it's like a nice intro to like the whole idea of having to do something and it's very clear like if I start with heel heel is harder to make clear right

Kelton - same trainer · Zeus · Watch at 1:29:19 ↗

consistent that's not that's easy to make clear and consistent he puts a foot off of there that's not allowed if all four feet are on there everything's cool

Kelton - same trainer · Zeus · Watch at 1:30:16 ↗

so the rule with the place is that the paws can't touch the ground so like she can hold whatever position she wants in there okay as long as four paws are not on the ground so she can hang two paws off but the second they touch the ground she breaks the rules

Luna · Watch at 33:17 ↗

tested like we're testing her threshold the threshold gets higher but every single time you hit that like max threshold she's gonna whine

Luna · Watch at 41:47 ↗

thing of like you gotta like reinforce it to get it there because honestly with the time that we train the dogs getting a dog to stay on a place for like monitoring them for like 40 minute reps is just like unrealistic in terms of like a work day

Luna · Watch at 42:37 ↗

like that's kind of the and I will say like I don't train place much anymore because we have like our own people that like just all day like run drills on place but what but we try to keep it about like try to get the dog about 15 to 20 minutes on place before they go home

Luna · Watch at 43:06 ↗

rock. Come on. Stay. Place. Up here. Come on. Place. Come on. Up here. Place. Come on.

handler working Sage in a park · Sage · Watch at 4:20 ↗

Good girlie. All the way.

same handler · Sage · Watch at 4:46 ↗

we're trying to show how you can change his perspective of the the crate right because right now he thinks that the crate is a place where he gets sent for punishment because that's happened to him so we can't send him to the crate for punishment we can't act like these places are punishments for him we don't do time out with the dogs in these cases that's a very very very very bad idea I want to emphasize that

Bo · Watch at 9:46 ↗

instead what we're doing is we're changing that to an area where it's like hey dude like we don't need to fight why are we fighting like there's there's nothing to fight about here everything's cool right

Bo · Watch at 10:12 ↗

just tell him place which obviously means that if you if he gets off you gotta put him back

trainer coaching a handler new to Bo in a mock boarding-kennel test · Bo · Watch at 2:29 ↗

Place can be a secure area for them to feel more relaxed and comfortable.

trainer working a nervous dog at the facility · Finn · Watch at 5:55 ↗

You're doing really well with that place. You might do another one with a little bit more duration.

same trainer · Finn · Watch at 7:11 ↗

So, I want to see how long it takes for him to just kind of settle on the place cut.

trainer on a home-context session; unnamed, and not Christian, whom he names in the third person. 'place cut' is 'place cot' · Louie · Watch at 0:18 ↗

But I also just want to have him be able to settle and chill on the place cot cuz that can transfer over to all kinds of things and it's very useful for developing calm behavior in the house.

same trainer · Louie · Watch at 2:29 ↗

the good news is stormy what i work with them mostly is their impulse control because of course the door opens and like oh who's there yeah you know my main job is getting them to be like oh i'm gonna wait until i'm told i can go

Stormie · Watch at 3:32 ↗

i think the longest i've had her stay on place successfully was about 10 minutes or so which is really great that's like a goal time usually that i go for

Connor · Stormie · Watch at 6:02 ↗

you know like say let's say you're gonna walk out the front door you know you can tell her place place and she'll go she'll sit there and she'll wait and say you go cook something in the kitchen real quick because you don't want her in the kitchen while you're cooking you know the idea is that that is something that can happen without it being like every two seconds

Connor · Stormie · Watch at 6:23 ↗

hello i figured um i'd record while i am cleaning um i have fiona on the place cot right now um

a kennel and admin staff member who says in the same file that she is not one of the trainers; unnamed · Stormie · Watch at 0:01 ↗

there being on the cot is helps them to learn how to be patient because unlike the kennel right or the crate inside the crate they are physically locked in there and they can't come out but here they aren't physically locked in and are able to come out so she makes a decision whether or not she can come off or not

trainer delivering the go-home lesson at the family's house; unnamed, and not Kelton, whom the trainer names in the third person · Callie · Watch at 9:05 ↗

It allows her to be present, be around, but also regulate her emotions and stay on the cot, right?

same trainer · Callie · Watch at 10:33 ↗

nope place sit and so then when she's on here you ask her to sit or down and then that means that she stays on

same trainer · Callie · Watch at 11:38 ↗

right nope is the word n-o-p-e is the word that we use and then if she wants to keep doing it because she's excited you can place her on the cot and tell her you know place and she would sit

same trainer, on jumping at the door · Callie · Watch at 8:54 ↗

watching tv maybe here sitting here you can put her on place and just practice that and even when you're eating you should place her um so she can get used to just being at home

same trainer · Callie · Watch at 25:22 ↗

about the gate like her little safe space where she gets to chill and it's comfortable and that's her place to sit down right as before it used to be when she was jumping when she was acting bad she went in there so it was like she didn't want to be in there because it was time out for her

the go-home trainer, second part of the lesson · Callie · Watch at 0:54 ↗

but now it's like this is my spot this is my sanctuary this is my area if I want to calm down

the go-home trainer · Callie · Watch at 1:09 ↗

know just feeling feeling happy spaces right no timeouts unless she does something that's absolutely not acceptable

the go-home trainer · Callie · Watch at 1:41 ↗

So all I'm doing here is long duration place cot stay with Callie, and she's doing fine with just settling more generally, but it's good to have her exercise impulse control in the cot.

trainer on a house lesson near the end of the program; unnamed, and not Christian · Callie · Watch at 11:13 ↗

something from the fridge and we'll see how Callie does with it. I'm going to take my headphones off so that if I hear her get up I can reinforce her staying in position.

same trainer · Callie · Watch at 14:17 ↗

This is a very long duration, but she's toward the end of her program, so I'm going to make sure it's really good.

same trainer · Callie · Watch at 38:13 ↗

Kelly place place place get on the rock mama get on the rock up here place place

trainer on a state-park hike · Callie · Watch at 21:02 ↗

there catty place place one here good good job mama place place cali good girl good job

trainer on an early outdoor session · Callie · Watch at 10:50 ↗

yeah yeah that's why we uh we mostly do cots sit i have a portable cot in my car i can probably bring it out to see if that helps fiona stop because of that same reason because the bed is lower to the um to the floor and the cot helps because it's raised from the floor and um and it It helps him to stay there longer. And that's why we train with cots.

trainer on a follow-up visit about a week after go-home · Fiona · Watch at 1:24 ↗

they're they're um like what size they are they come in different sizes so see having her like that she can't scoot scoot off of it

same trainer · Fiona · Watch at 28:29 ↗

Come on, you can do it, place, up here, good girl, place.

trainer on a store field trip · Fiona · Watch at 0:46 ↗

So you can place on any elevated object, doesn't matter what it is. And Fiona is very good at place.

same trainer · Fiona · Watch at 0:53 ↗

and i'm going to um clean the rug i did put stormy away because she is still new at this uh training stuff and i don't want them on the floor only on the place caught and i don't think she's there yet without me having to constantly correct her

the same kennel and admin staff member as 0N7Qm-UHyyU, by her framing; unnamed. 'place caught' is 'place cot' · Fiona · Watch at 0:17 ↗

this is not a session if you know what i mean um so i'm gonna leave fiona there because she's gonna just stay in there um i'm gonna see how she reacts with the big whistle

same staff member; 'the big whistle' is the carpet cleaner · Fiona · Watch at 0:38 ↗

The place is good for this kind of exercise because it's very the boundaries are clear

Sputnik · Watch at 17:54 ↗

You see how he's laying differently now?

Sputnik · Watch at 19:26 ↗

full transparency we haven't had him stay on place while playing with another dog that's almost insanely hard

Sputnik · Watch at 20:29 ↗

Yeah, basically any time you notice something like that happened just cancel Sputnik's fun His fun ends he gets punished the way I punished him the first time and then he gets put on the place cut And he has to wait, but then you let him back out

Sputnik · Watch at 26:00 ↗

That was probably a good length of time. We're like nope. Nope. Now you're you're basically punishing him and then putting him in timeout

Sputnik · Watch at 26:14 ↗

you can negatively reinforce the place if they step a paw off because that's the only rule the only rule is all four paws on the place pad there's no there's literally no other rules they don't have to be sitting they don't have to be laying down

the trainer at Kali and Kane's in-program owner lesson, both dogs on cots indoors · Kali · Watch at 23:57 ↗

it's always something that's a little off the ground so like a cot that's a couple inches off or like a park bench or something like that could be a place right um and like and because like it's anything that's not on the ground directly because anything on the ground is then just a command like a down or something like that

the trainer at Pepper's second in-program owner lesson, answering the owner's question about place · Pepper · Watch at 24:58 ↗

the main idea behind the place command and the reason that it being raised like elevated makes a difference is that like say you did it on like a towel right if you are on a towel and you tell your dog right place and he's on the towel it's hard for him to distinguish his body being fully on the towel for his body being on the floor there's not that much of a difference to him right so it's not that clear

Reaper · Watch at 37:27 ↗

the reason that that's nice is because that means that place is a command that you can extend out to almost any duration right so like i would not leave a dog in a sit for longer than like five minutes normally

Reaper · Watch at 39:11 ↗

The place command is the most black and white command possible because either all four paws are on or they're not

the trainer · Bubba Gum · Watch at 33:49 ↗

cotton is important because it's an elevated surface it's very clear like

the trainer · Ozzy · Watch at 19:26 ↗

Because then it becomes harder for the dog to distinguish whether they're on the cot or off the cot in their minds.

the trainer · Rocky · Watch at 42:50 ↗

i just have to make the rules the same here for the cot right because it is like a texture

Connor · Shadow (German Shepherd puppy) · Watch at 16:46 ↗

How it looks, dog by dog

Bullet

Bullet's file is where place is defined for an owner, and then shown in public. At the end of a park visit the owners ask the question most owners ask: why raised beds? The trainer answers with a definition, not a product. Place is anything off the ground, because that is easier for the dog to understand. Cots are recommended because they are light, go camping and onto a deck, and stay cool underneath. They also all feel the same, so the dog learns to 'find that texture' wherever the cot goes. One owner says out loud what she had missed: she'd thought it was about cooling and hadn't seen it as a designated spot the dog can see. The field trips then use the idea without the cot. In a Ross store Bullet takes several cues and an 'ah ah' to get onto a fixture, while the trainer reminds him he has climbed lots of things. At Lake Benson he needs several cues to get onto a bench, and the handler thinks about splitting the cue in two. The send ('up up') is the part that sticks, and 'place' is for staying. On an evening walk it goes 'Up, up, up.

On film

Because for place, it's easier for them to understand when it's off the ground.

Watch at 24:46 ↗

because they all feel the same, roughly, like the texture's the same. When we say place, then they know like, oh, find that texture too. And so like their brains recognize like find that texture so it can move locations where they can still find it.

Watch at 25:52 ↗

Good. I've seen you climb lots of stuff. Place. Ah ah. Bullet, come on, up here. Place. Place.

Watch at 1:07 ↗

I might just tell him up up instead and then tell him place to stay on it

Watch at 30:55 ↗

Up, up, up. Place.

Watch at 10:28 ↗

King

King's owner has a big fat pillow for him and says so. The trainer, Kelton by the case record, recommends a cot for two reasons. A big, stuffy dog will prefer the cooler surface, and on a cot 'it's very clear for the dog like what the boundary of the place you left them is'. That clarity is what makes the correction fair: when he gets off, 'it's like clear as day to them like why they're getting penalized'. In this family place is for guests. It is one of three options when people are over, alongside the kennel and 'calm liberty', and the trainer ranks it by how often it will be used. He also warns against the most common owner reflex, answering a bad choice with 'sit, down, place' ('They band-aid it with obedience'). In the same lesson he adds that credit is due for time served: a dog who gets up after forty-five minutes gets a stretch and goes back calmly, one who gets up after two minutes is simply put back. The field footage shows the portable version: a downtown bench offered as a place, and a long hold on a low platform in a park during a phone call, with dogs passing at a distance.

On film

i like the cot uh for two reasons one because he's big and stuffy and pillow versus cot in terms of temperature he's gonna prefer the cot very likely just because uh they get hot on the pillows um and then but on the cot it's raised off the ground

Watch at 38:53 ↗

that's why i recommend the cot is because one is really cool um like temperature wise and the other reason is because it's very clear for the dog like what the boundary of the place you left them is

Watch at 40:04 ↗

people's first thought is is sit, down, place. They band-aid it with obedience. Don't do that. Don't band-aid it with obedience. Instead, just tell them to stop doing that thing.

Watch at 47:47 ↗

So as an example, you can leave him on the bench.

Watch at 9:04 ↗

Alright so Kings done really good on like holding his command for a longer duration with distractions more distractions there were dogs walking by and stuff like that this whole time

Watch at 25:05 ↗

Zeus

The most complete statement of the rule is in Zeus's second owner lesson, and it starts from the owner's mistake: she asks whether place is 'just to put him somewhere to sit'. The trainer says no. Place is on top of anything raised. A mat is the worked counterexample, because a foot on the floor at the edge 'doesn't feel really any different'. He then gives the everyday picture: his own dog left on a picnic table at a park while he talks to someone or gets water. Place is for 'immobilizing them for a minute'. The criterion is all four paws on the cot and nothing else, so no sit or down is needed unless wanted. He explains why place is so often taught first: its edge is clear and consistent in a way heel's never is. Enforcement follows from that. A foot off gets the marker and, early on, the collar right away. Later the dog gets the chance to fix it on the marker alone, and a repeat soon after the first gets more (the iPad example). Zeus holds place for the rest of the day after one correction, while visibly wanting to get off because a cat is nearby.

On film

say i place him on top of this this mat that'll work because it's not very clear to him if he's on the mat or off the mat like if his feet are off on the other end or he stands up and puts his paws out on the floor it doesn't feel really any different it's not very clear to him where the boundaries are

Watch at 1:26:05 ↗

not very clear to him where the boundaries are if he steps his foot off that he knows the difference between being on top of that thing and not being on top of it or you could place him on top of something like this or on a park bench or on a picnic table actually I leave my dog on a picnic table relatively frequently

Watch at 1:26:26 ↗

you can break down something like that don't matter as long as all four paws are on the cot then there's that's it that's that's what the command means um so you don't have to say place and then sit or placing them down unless you want him to do that for some reason

Watch at 1:27:32 ↗

of the reasons that a lot of times one of the first things we do with the dog is teaching place just because it's like a nice intro to like the whole idea of having to do something and it's very clear like if I start with heel heel is harder to make clear right

Watch at 1:29:19 ↗

Luna

Connor gives Luna's family the rule as one fact the owner can check without judgement: 'the paws can't touch the ground'. Any position is fine and two paws can hang over the edge, but the moment one touches the floor she has broken it. Everything else in the lesson is proofing against that edge in her own house: the door opened and closed, the owner walking out, the trainer running across the room. She breaks it a few times and runs back to the cot on her own, which he reads as her knowing what she did. Two further pieces belong to this concept. Whining on the cot is read as her reaching the top of her current threshold, which rises with repetition, not as distress. And he gives the duration standard: about fifteen to twenty minutes before go-home, with twenty to forty left for the family to build. His reason is practical: 'monitoring them for like 40 minute reps is just like unrealistic in terms of like a work day'. He also says he doesn't train place much any more because staff 'run drills on place' all day.

On film

so the rule with the place is that the paws can't touch the ground so like she can hold whatever position she wants in there okay as long as four paws are not on the ground so she can hang two paws off but the second they touch the ground she breaks the rules

Watch at 33:17 ↗

tested like we're testing her threshold the threshold gets higher but every single time you hit that like max threshold she's gonna whine

Watch at 41:47 ↗

like that's kind of the and I will say like I don't train place much anymore because we have like our own people that like just all day like run drills on place but what but we try to keep it about like try to get the dog about 15 to 20 minutes on place before they go home

Watch at 43:06 ↗

Sage

Sage's file only adds the word leaving the training room. In a park the handler walks her to a rock, cues place repeatedly with 'up here', and waits until she is 'all the way' up before praising her and moving on. The standard doesn't change with the object: partly up is not place.

On film

rock. Come on. Stay. Place. Up here. Come on. Place. Come on. Up here. Place. Come on.

Watch at 4:20 ↗

Good girlie. All the way.

Watch at 4:46 ↗

Bo

Bo is the case the 'never a punishment' rule comes from, and the place in question is his crate, not a cot. Bo growls and guards when people other than his trainer open his crate. Kelton, by the case record, stops partway through the session to explain the reasoning: Bo thinks the crate is where he gets sent for punishment 'because that's happened to him'. So 'we can't act like these places are punishments for him we don't do time out with the dogs in these cases', said with the emphasis he asks for. The crate is to become somewhere with nothing to fight about, where obedience is asked and rewarded. The file keeps two things apart: the spot a dog has to live in is protected from punishment, and place itself still has a rule that gets enforced.

On film

we're trying to show how you can change his perspective of the the crate right because right now he thinks that the crate is a place where he gets sent for punishment because that's happened to him so we can't send him to the crate for punishment we can't act like these places are punishments for him we don't do time out with the dogs in these cases that's a very very very very bad idea I want to emphasize that

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instead what we're doing is we're changing that to an area where it's like hey dude like we don't need to fight why are we fighting like there's there's nothing to fight about here everything's cool right

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just tell him place which obviously means that if you if he gets off you gotta put him back

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Finn

Finn is a nervous dog, still shaking a little early in his program. For him place is justified the other way round: not as a stay but as 'a secure area for them to feel more relaxed and comfortable'. It is slotted between sit reps, which are hard for him in their own right. He holds a sit beside the handler and breaks it the moment the handler steps away. The trainer reports he is doing really well on place and suggests the next rep with a little more duration. For a fearful dog the same exercise is offered as a refuge, not a demand.

On film

Place can be a secure area for them to feel more relaxed and comfortable.

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You're doing really well with that place. You might do another one with a little bit more duration.

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Louie

Louie's home-context session is the plainest statement that place is for calm, not just for staying put. The trainer says the video will be boring. He puts Louie on the cot to see how long it takes him to settle, and holds back on purpose. Then he gives the reason: settling and chilling on the place cot 'can transfer over to all kinds of things' and is 'very useful for developing calm behavior in the house'. The measure is when the dog lies down of his own accord, not a set time. The transfer claim is stated here and not shown.

On film

So, I want to see how long it takes for him to just kind of settle on the place cut.

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But I also just want to have him be able to settle and chill on the place cot cuz that can transfer over to all kinds of things and it's very useful for developing calm behavior in the house.

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Stormie

Stormie is a six-month-old puppy with poor impulse control. Connor calls place work his main tool for her and the door his main test: his job is getting the dog to wait until told. She fails it 'many a time'. Her best is about ten minutes, which he calls his usual goal time, and now distractions are being added one at a time. He describes the end state in household terms: tell her place when you walk out the front door or cook, 'without it being like every two seconds'. The facility footage shows the same thing in use by staff. A kennel and admin staff member records herself cleaning with Fiona parked on the cot, and on another cleaning day puts Stormie away instead because 'she's not there yet without me having to constantly correct her'. Deciding who is ready to be left on the cot is part of the concept.

On film

the good news is stormy what i work with them mostly is their impulse control because of course the door opens and like oh who's there yeah you know my main job is getting them to be like oh i'm gonna wait until i'm told i can go

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i think the longest i've had her stay on place successfully was about 10 minutes or so which is really great that's like a goal time usually that i go for

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you know like say let's say you're gonna walk out the front door you know you can tell her place place and she'll go she'll sit there and she'll wait and say you go cook something in the kitchen real quick because you don't want her in the kitchen while you're cooking you know the idea is that that is something that can happen without it being like every two seconds

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hello i figured um i'd record while i am cleaning um i have fiona on the place cot right now um

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Callie

Callie's file has both halves of the concept's second question, and it is where the choice idea is put most clearly. At go-home her trainer contrasts the cot with the crate. In a crate the dog is 'physically locked in', but on the cot she isn't, so 'she makes a decision whether or not she can come off'. Staying teaches patience and lets an excited dog 'be present, be around' when guests come, while she settles herself. When she gets off she is told 'nope' and put back. A correct release is followed by 'yes' and petting. The family are told to practise place while they watch TV and eat. In the program the choice is tested hard: a house lesson near the end runs long place-cot stays while the trainer goes to another room, the fridge and outside, headphones off to hear if she gets up. The second go-home part deals with the family's gated area. It had been where she went when she jumped or acted up, so she didn't want to be there. The trainer renames it 'my sanctuary', with 'no timeouts unless she does something that's absolutely not acceptable'. Her field sessions put place on a rock on a state-park trail.

On film

there being on the cot is helps them to learn how to be patient because unlike the kennel right or the crate inside the crate they are physically locked in there and they can't come out but here they aren't physically locked in and are able to come out so she makes a decision whether or not she can come off or not

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It allows her to be present, be around, but also regulate her emotions and stay on the cot, right?

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something from the fridge and we'll see how Callie does with it. I'm going to take my headphones off so that if I hear her get up I can reinforce her staying in position.

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about the gate like her little safe space where she gets to chill and it's comfortable and that's her place to sit down right as before it used to be when she was jumping when she was acting bad she went in there so it was like she didn't want to be in there because it was time out for her

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but now it's like this is my spot this is my sanctuary this is my area if I want to calm down

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Kelly place place place get on the rock mama get on the rock up here place place

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Fiona

Fiona is a small chihuahua-pug mix, and her file shows the surface problem at home. A week after go-home her owner reports that 'bed' held right through a family dinner and then stopped working the next morning: she sits and stares 'like i hear you but i'm not doing it', and creeps off before release. The trainer's first fix is the equipment. The home bed is low to the floor, so she fetches her own portable cot from the car, because 'the cot helps because it's raised from the floor' and 'she can't scoot scoot off of it'. The field trip shows the other direction: in a Bass Pro Shops she is coaxed onto a fixture ('you can do it') and the trainer states the rule for the camera: 'you can place on any elevated object, doesn't matter what it is'. At the facility the kennel staff use her as the dog who can be trusted to stay on the cot through mopping and a carpet cleaner.

On film

yeah yeah that's why we uh we mostly do cots sit i have a portable cot in my car i can probably bring it out to see if that helps fiona stop because of that same reason because the bed is lower to the um to the floor and the cot helps because it's raised from the floor and um and it It helps him to stay there longer. And that's why we train with cots.

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they're they're um like what size they are they come in different sizes so see having her like that she can't scoot scoot off of it

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So you can place on any elevated object, doesn't matter what it is. And Fiona is very good at place.

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this is not a session if you know what i mean um so i'm gonna leave fiona there because she's gonna just stay in there um i'm gonna see how she reacts with the big whistle

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Sputnik

Sputnik is the counterexample. At the go-home lesson in the family's yard, this high-drive cattle dog goes at the older dog, Bear, during ball play. Kelton, by the case record, answers with a string of 'nope's and a correction. Then he puts Sputnik on the place cot in a down, choosing it because 'the boundaries are clear'. He points out that the dog is now lying differently. The house rule he gives the family is explicit: whenever Sputnik spoils play, 'his fun ends he gets punished... and then he gets put on the place cut', waits, and is let back out. He calls it by its name: 'basically punishing him and then putting him in timeout'. He also says openly what was never trained: Sputnik has not been asked to hold place while other dogs play, which he calls 'almost insanely hard'. Here the cot is a waiting spot after a correction, a short spell before the dog goes back to play. It is not the dog's bed or a place he is shut in, and the fun is given back.

On film

The place is good for this kind of exercise because it's very the boundaries are clear

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You see how he's laying differently now?

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Yeah, basically any time you notice something like that happened just cancel Sputnik's fun His fun ends he gets punished the way I punished him the first time and then he gets put on the place cut And he has to wait, but then you let him back out

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That was probably a good length of time. We're like nope. Nope. Now you're you're basically punishing him and then putting him in timeout

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full transparency we haven't had him stay on place while playing with another dog that's almost insanely hard

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Kali

Kali (new in this update; said of Kali and Kane together, in their home). Asked about cots, the trainer gives the raised-edge reason in his own words: place is only distinguishable from a sit or a down if it is raised, and a blanket on the floor lets the dog drift half off without registering any difference. A blanket on top of the cot is fine; he likes mesh cots because they are comfy and breathe. The only rule is all four paws on the pad - no sit, no down required - and a paw stepped off can be corrected. He explains why place often comes first in the program (on or off the cot is easy to make clear) and that its duration can scale to hours without being hard on the dog. He also calls place 'kind of like a band-aid' that can still be useful.

On film

place is only distinguishable from down or sit or something like that if it's raised

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it's about whether or not how how hard is it for them to tell if they are on it or top of it right so like look at the blanket on the ground and their foot touching the ground on the other side and then like over time they like move around a little bit now they're holding half their bodies off of it they can't they don't register a big difference

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like am i saying like no dog could like get that understanding yeah you can put a blanket up there if you want um i found that dogs like these because like they're comfy and then also because they're meshed it breathes

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you can negatively reinforce the place if they step a paw off because that's the only rule the only rule is all four paws on the place pad there's no there's literally no other rules they don't have to be sitting they don't have to be laying down

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you're either up there or you're not up there it's not that hard to make the difference clear to them like are you on that cot or not on that cot

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yeah so that's that's the one that like the duration can scale to like multiple hours and it's not hard on the dog

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now the place command um is like a kind of like a band-aid but it can be expanded we use them right sometimes right they can be useful

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Pepper

Pepper (new in this update). At her second in-program owner lesson the owner asks what counts as place. The trainer's answer: always something a little off the ground - a cot a couple of inches up, a park bench - because anything directly on the ground is just a down. A bed-bag type of bed can cross over, but the dog has to be shown that it is what you want.

On film

it's always something that's a little off the ground so like a cot that's a couple inches off or like a park bench or something like that could be a place right um and like and because like it's anything that's not on the ground directly because anything on the ground is then just a command like a down or something like that

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so like um so like if it's gonna be on like a bed bag type thing then it crosses over it can be used but well you'll have to like show her like that's what you want it to be right

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Reaper

Reaper (new in this update). On a walk in the owner's neighbourhood the trainer gives the whole idea: being raised matters because on a towel the dog cannot tell his body being fully on it from being on the floor. A bed can work but squishes down. The rule is simple - all four paws up, or a foot on the ground - and very clean: hanging paws are fine, a paw put out means he is put back. Nothing else is required (he can stand, spin round, lie a different way), and that is why place, unlike a sit, can be extended to almost any duration.

On film

the main idea behind the place command and the reason that it being raised like elevated makes a difference is that like say you did it on like a towel right if you are on a towel and you tell your dog right place and he's on the towel it's hard for him to distinguish his body being fully on the towel for his body being on the floor there's not that much of a difference to him right so it's not that clear

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you can do it on top of anything like a bed can work only thing about beds is like sometimes they're squishy and so you squish down

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the rule like between being on the place and not being on the place is simple it's are all four paws on there right are you all the way up on it or is one of your feet on the ground

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like hanging paws off that's fine right they're going to dangle in the air that's not the deal but like putting a paw out okay now you're not in place anymore and i'm going to go put you back in place right so it's very very clean

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He can stand up, spin around, lay down a different way.

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the reason that that's nice is because that means that place is a command that you can extend out to almost any duration right so like i would not leave a dog in a sit for longer than like five minutes normally

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Astro

Astro's place drills state the one rule. He may do whatever he wants on the cot, turn round to watch the other dogs included, as long as his paws stay up there.

On film

placing do whatever he wants on the place cut as long as he doesn't get his

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That's allowed. He can turn, he can move wherever he wants as long as he stays up there, which I've made clear to him.

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Beo

At Beo's lesson the trainer describes how he usually builds place: a few rounds of up and sit, then, around the third or fourth time, a shift to asking for a settle. He says bully breeds settle 'really fast'.

On film

is go through a couple rounds where I have them go up there and I tell them to sit

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and then after somewhere around the third or fourth time I flip it to just

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Bernie

Bernie places on a park rock on film. At his owner lesson the cot is sized as well as raised: it has to be high enough that the line between ground and cot is clear, and wide enough that his paws don't hang off the edge.

On film

Placing on a rock.

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it's elevated off the ground that's so like sufficiently elevated that it's clear that

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there's a distinction between the ground and the thing that he's on so like think about it this way

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Bubba Gum

Bubba Gum's trainer calls place 'the most black and white command possible': all four paws are on or they're not. Off without a release earns a nope and a put-back, then a consequence. If she wasn't asked to place, getting off costs nothing.

On film

The place command is the most black and white command possible because either all four paws are on or they're not

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So if she gets off, there's no consequence because I didn't ask her to

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Kalypso

Kalypso's family have no cot yet and are told to use anything raised and big enough for her. A dog who doesn't know place yet may head for the couch instead, so get creative.

On film

you can just use anything that's like raised at all like if you guys have like something that's

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Louie

The other Louie's cot is described as 'an object lifted off the ground slightly', used for impulse control while trucks go by. The family are told to get one as a control spot for when guests come in, with put-backs until the release.

On film

impulse control and teach him to stay on an object lifted off the ground slightly

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like a control spot when people come in the house maybe we make him go to his place yeah you're like

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Major

At Major's lesson, talk about keeping a heavy dog cool brings out a reason for the cot: it is lifted, so air reaches the dog from underneath, unlike 'the cute little beds'.

On film

say he's cool yeah yeah i use a cot for all my dogs because it's it's lifted and then they can

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receive the air from the bottom if they're airflow yeah stay there yeah i don't use the cute little

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Max (Goldendoodle)

Before a store visit Kelton puts Max on a bench for a place stay, checking the surface first. If it were too slippery he wouldn't make him do it, but it is wide and flat enough.

On film

But if it's too slippery, I won't make him do it.

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But it looks like it's wide enough and flat enough to do it pretty easily.

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Ozzy

At Ozzy's go-home the family hear why the cot matters. Clients who try place on the bare floor get a dog who doesn't know what is wanted, while an elevated surface is 'very clear'.

On film

place on the ground and the dogs like I don't know what you want from me so the

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cotton is important because it's an elevated surface it's very clear like

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Penny

Kelton prefers the raised mesh cots for Penny because they are comfy and cool. He tells the family not to feel bad about long evening holds, where she ends up asleep up there.

On film

like it's comfy you know and it's cool it's not too hot that's why i like the raised place dots

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because they're they got the mesh so that's one option uh yeah but don't feel bad about leaving

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Peque (PK)

For PK, place is 'usually something that's like raised like this', and she stays on it until released. It is used through dinner or with guests, and unlike a locked crate it makes her practise regulating her emotions and patience.

On film

little cot usually something that's like raised like this and then you just put her in that area

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yeah um but it helps it helps the dog to um regulate its its emotions and like practice

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Rocky

Rocky's trainer gives both halves. Anything elevated can be place (a picnic table, a park rock), and he will not use flat dog beds, because with paws on the floor it gets harder for the dog 'to distinguish whether they're on the cot or off the cot in their minds'. He adds that some dogs do fine on them, but many don't.

On film

If it's elevated off the ground.

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Because then it becomes harder for the dog to distinguish whether they're on the cot or off the cot in their minds.

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them on the rock um you can put them on top of anything as the place got um as long as it's

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Shadow (German Shepherd puppy)

At the GSD puppy Shadow's home, Connor re-teaches place on the family's own bed, because 'it is like a texture different' from the cots used in training, and he has to make the rules the same there. This is the first time the texture claim is acted on, not just explained.

On film

get her on it a few times just because it's different from like the cops we use and so like

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i just have to make the rules the same here for the cot right because it is like a texture

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Teddy

On a walk Teddy is placed on a picnic table, and because the command is place he may walk around on the table.

On film

Remember, he's on the place command,

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so he can walk around on the table.

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Thor

Thor works on a place cot in the yard, and because he likes to get up on the picnic table, the trainer sometimes places him there instead.

On film

picnic table so sometimes I place him on the picnic table.

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Thumper

Gemma places Thumper on an object outdoors and notes that it is 'probably too small for you'. Size is part of whether a raised thing works as place.

On film

good boy place yeah sit down nope sit down i know this one's probably too small for you

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Why it works

The trainers give one mechanism, from four handlers in five dogs' files (and again, in the September update, in Kali and Kane's and Reaper's owner lessons: a blanket or towel on the floor gives no felt edge, watch 22:37; watch 37:27), and it is about what the dog can perceive, not what he wants. The dog has to be able to tell from his own body whether he is on place. A raised edge gives him that. A mat or a low bed doesn't: a paw on the floor at the edge 'doesn't feel really any different' (watch 86:05). With the edge he 'knows the difference between being on top of that thing and not being on top of it' (watch 86:26). Three things follow, each stated on film. First, the correction makes sense to the dog: 'it's like clear as day to them like why they're getting penalized' (watch 39:48). Second, the rule is easy to keep consistent ('easy to make clear and consistent', watch 90:16). That is why place is often the first thing taught, when heel's edge is 'a little bit more gray' (watch 89:19). Kali and Kane's trainer gives the same sequencing reason: 'you're either up there or you're not up there' (watch 26:29). A fourth consequence is stated in September: because the rule asks for nothing but the four paws, place can be held far longer than a sit (watch 39:11; watch 25:52). Third, a raised cot physically holds a small dog better than a low bed ('she can't scoot scoot off of it', watch 28:29). Sputnik's trainer uses the same logic for choosing the cot as the waiting spot after a correction (watch 17:54).

A second mechanism, weaker and from one handler, explains how place travels. If every cot feels the same, the dog learns to look for a feel, not a thing: 'their brains recognize like find that texture' (watch 25:52). That is his explanation. What the footage shows is only the result: place taken on a rock, a store fixture, park benches, a low platform, and a picnic table in the trainer's account. Another trainer says of elevated objects that it 'doesn't matter what it is' (watch 00:53). That points to height, not texture, as what the dog is reading.

Why place should mean choice rather than confinement is stated too. On a cot 'they aren't physically locked in', so staying is the dog's decision, which is what teaches patience (watch 09:05). Why a space used for punishment goes bad is shown, not explained. Callie didn't want to be in the gated area 'because it was time out for her' (watch 00:54), and Bo's crate is where he guards 'because that's happened to him' (watch 09:46). The claim that calm on the cot carries over to calm in the house is stated (watch 02:29) but not explained or shown. Coverage pass, 1 Oct 2026: the clarity mechanism is restated in the trainers' words, 'harder for the dog to distinguish whether they're on the cot or off the cot in their minds' (watch 42:50) and 'it's an elevated surface it's very clear' (watch 19:26). The texture account now has an action behind it. A trainer re-teaches place on a home bed because its texture differs (watch 16:42). Still inferred: that texture, not elevation or the handler's cue, is what carries place to new objects.

Where the trainers differ

Can place be used as a time-out after a correction?

One view

No, at least for the space a dog has to live in. In Bo's crate-aggression case: 'we can't act like these places are punishments for him we don't do time out with the dogs in these cases'. Callie's go-home trainer renames the family's gated area from time-out to sanctuary, with time-outs kept for the absolutely unacceptable.

On film

we're trying to show how you can change his perspective of the the crate right because right now he thinks that the crate is a place where he gets sent for punishment because that's happened to him so we can't send him to the crate for punishment we can't act like these places are punishments for him we don't do time out with the dogs in these cases that's a very very very very bad idea I want to emphasize that

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know just feeling feeling happy spaces right no timeouts unless she does something that's absolutely not acceptable

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Another view

Yes, as a short wait after the correction. When Sputnik spoils another dog's play he is corrected, then put on the place cot to wait, then let back out. The trainer calls it a time-out and chooses the cot because its boundaries are clear.

On film

Yeah, basically any time you notice something like that happened just cancel Sputnik's fun His fun ends he gets punished the way I punished him the first time and then he gets put on the place cut And he has to wait, but then you let him back out

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That was probably a good length of time. We're like nope. Nope. Now you're you're basically punishing him and then putting him in timeout

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How to read it

Not resolved. Differences in the evidence, laid out rather than weighed: Bo's rule is about a crate in a crate-guarding case ('in these cases'). Callie's is about an enclosure and allows an exception. Sputnik's is a cot used for a short spell after a correction already given, then release back to play. By the case records, the Bo and Sputnik lessons are the same trainer (Kelton).

Does the dog have to sit or lie down on place?

One view

No. The whole rule is four paws off the floor, and any position is fine.

On film

you can break down something like that don't matter as long as all four paws are on the cot then there's that's it that's that's what the command means um so you don't have to say place and then sit or placing them down unless you want him to do that for some reason

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so the rule with the place is that the paws can't touch the ground so like she can hold whatever position she wants in there okay as long as four paws are not on the ground so she can hang two paws off but the second they touch the ground she breaks the rules

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you can negatively reinforce the place if they step a paw off because that's the only rule the only rule is all four paws on the place pad there's no there's literally no other rules they don't have to be sitting they don't have to be laying down

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the rule like between being on the place and not being on the place is simple it's are all four paws on there right are you all the way up on it or is one of your feet on the ground

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He can stand up, spin around, lay down a different way.

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That's allowed. He can turn, he can move wherever he wants as long as he stays up there, which I've made clear to him.

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so he can walk around on the table.

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Another view

A position is asked for on the cot as part of how the dog stays on.

On film

nope place sit and so then when she's on here you ask her to sit or down and then that means that she stays on

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is go through a couple rounds where I have them go up there and I tell them to sit

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How to read it

Zeus's trainer allows for side B ('unless you want him to do that for some reason'), so this may be a difference of habit, not of rule. Fiona's follow-up uses 'bed, sit' and 'place sit down', but in a low-narration stretch. Coverage pass 1 Oct 2026: Astro's and Teddy's handlers allow any movement on the object; Beo's trainer builds place with a sit for the first few rounds and then asks for a settle, which reads as a teaching stage rather than the rule.

What makes place travel: the same texture, or any elevation?

One view

Keep the cots the same so the dog learns to find that texture wherever it goes.

On film

because they all feel the same, roughly, like the texture's the same. When we say place, then they know like, oh, find that texture too. And so like their brains recognize like find that texture so it can move locations where they can still find it.

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i just have to make the rules the same here for the cot right because it is like a texture

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Another view

Any raised object will do, whatever it is.

On film

So you can place on any elevated object, doesn't matter what it is. And Fiona is very good at place.

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place is on top of anything he runs there it can be on top of anything um i normally initially teach them on like just like a place cot like that like a bed like this a raised place cot's the best the reason that it you can place a dog on top of anything as long as it is raised off the ground a little bit

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it's always something that's a little off the ground so like a cot that's a couple inches off or like a park bench or something like that could be a place right um and like and because like it's anything that's not on the ground directly because anything on the ground is then just a command like a down or something like that

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you can do it on top of anything like a bed can work only thing about beds is like sometimes they're squishy and so you squish down

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them on the rock um you can put them on top of anything as the place got um as long as it's

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you can just use anything that's like raised at all like if you guys have like something that's

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How to read it

Probably complementary: identical cots at home, and anything raised in public. Bullet's own field trips put place on a store fixture and a bench, which are not cots. No session tests texture against height. September adds two more 'anything raised' statements (Pepper: a cot or a park bench, but nothing on the ground; Reaper: a bed can work). Kali and Kane's trainer prefers mesh cots for comfort and air, not for a shared texture. Still no test of texture against height. Coverage pass 1 Oct 2026: Connor re-teaches place on the GSD puppy Shadow's home bed because its texture differs from the training cots - a new surface treated as something to re-teach; still not a test of texture against height. Rocky's and Kalypso's trainers add more 'anything raised' statements.

Common owner mistakes

  • Thinking place means 'go and sit somewhere'.
    On film

    So is place the same thing? And place is just to put him somewhere to sit.

    Watch at 1:25:40 ↗

    you can break down something like that don't matter as long as all four paws are on the cot then there's that's it that's that's what the command means um so you don't have to say place and then sit or placing them down unless you want him to do that for some reason

    Watch at 1:27:32 ↗

    it's always something that's a little off the ground so like a cot that's a couple inches off or like a park bench or something like that could be a place right um and like and because like it's anything that's not on the ground directly because anything on the ground is then just a command like a down or something like that

    Watch at 24:58 ↗
  • Using a low dog bed or pillow, which leaves the edge unclear and lets the dog creep off.
    On film

    yeah yeah that's why we uh we mostly do cots sit i have a portable cot in my car i can probably bring it out to see if that helps fiona stop because of that same reason because the bed is lower to the um to the floor and the cot helps because it's raised from the floor and um and it It helps him to stay there longer. And that's why we train with cots.

    Watch at 1:24 ↗

    i like the cot uh for two reasons one because he's big and stuffy and pillow versus cot in terms of temperature he's gonna prefer the cot very likely just because uh they get hot on the pillows um and then but on the cot it's raised off the ground

    Watch at 38:53 ↗

    it's about whether or not how how hard is it for them to tell if they are on it or top of it right so like look at the blanket on the ground and their foot touching the ground on the other side and then like over time they like move around a little bit now they're holding half their bodies off of it they can't they don't register a big difference

    Watch at 22:37 ↗

    the main idea behind the place command and the reason that it being raised like elevated makes a difference is that like say you did it on like a towel right if you are on a towel and you tell your dog right place and he's on the towel it's hard for him to distinguish his body being fully on the towel for his body being on the floor there's not that much of a difference to him right so it's not that clear

    Watch at 37:27 ↗
  • Sending the dog to his crate or gated area as a punishment, so it becomes a place he doesn't want to be.
    On film

    about the gate like her little safe space where she gets to chill and it's comfortable and that's her place to sit down right as before it used to be when she was jumping when she was acting bad she went in there so it was like she didn't want to be in there because it was time out for her

    Watch at 0:54 ↗

    we're trying to show how you can change his perspective of the the crate right because right now he thinks that the crate is a place where he gets sent for punishment because that's happened to him so we can't send him to the crate for punishment we can't act like these places are punishments for him we don't do time out with the dogs in these cases that's a very very very very bad idea I want to emphasize that

    Watch at 9:46 ↗
  • Letting a break go: the dog leaves before release and isn't put back.
    On film

    not really or was she just like super excited and running around she just doesn't yeah she just doesn't do it she'll sit there and stare at me like i hear you but i'm not doing it

    Watch at 4:02 ↗

    just tell him place which obviously means that if you if he gets off you gotta put him back

    Watch at 2:29 ↗
  • Re-cueing place every few seconds instead of expecting it to hold.
    On film

    you know like say let's say you're gonna walk out the front door you know you can tell her place place and she'll go she'll sit there and she'll wait and say you go cook something in the kitchen real quick because you don't want her in the kitchen while you're cooking you know the idea is that that is something that can happen without it being like every two seconds

    Watch at 6:23 ↗
  • Expecting long holds without building them; the long durations are the family's to build.
    On film

    thing of like you gotta like reinforce it to get it there because honestly with the time that we train the dogs getting a dog to stay on a place for like monitoring them for like 40 minute reps is just like unrealistic in terms of like a work day

    Watch at 42:37 ↗

Questions owners ask

Does it have to be a cot? Can I use a mat or his dog bed?

The trainers use raised cots and say why: the dog has to be able to feel the edge. With a mat, a paw on the floor at the edge 'doesn't feel really any different', so the dog can't tell when he has broken the rule. A low bed also lets a small dog creep off, which is why Fiona's trainer brought her own cot to the house. Cots are also light, portable and cooler than a pillow for a big dog. Anything raised can be place, including a bench or a rock outside, but at home the trainers recommend a cot. A towel or blanket on the floor has the same problem; a blanket on top of the cot is fine.

On film

say i place him on top of this this mat that'll work because it's not very clear to him if he's on the mat or off the mat like if his feet are off on the other end or he stands up and puts his paws out on the floor it doesn't feel really any different it's not very clear to him where the boundaries are

Watch at 1:26:05 ↗

yeah yeah that's why we uh we mostly do cots sit i have a portable cot in my car i can probably bring it out to see if that helps fiona stop because of that same reason because the bed is lower to the um to the floor and the cot helps because it's raised from the floor and um and it It helps him to stay there longer. And that's why we train with cots.

Watch at 1:24 ↗

that's why i recommend the cot is because one is really cool um like temperature wise and the other reason is because it's very clear for the dog like what the boundary of the place you left them is

Watch at 40:04 ↗

the main idea behind the place command and the reason that it being raised like elevated makes a difference is that like say you did it on like a towel right if you are on a towel and you tell your dog right place and he's on the towel it's hard for him to distinguish his body being fully on the towel for his body being on the floor there's not that much of a difference to him right so it's not that clear

Watch at 37:27 ↗

like am i saying like no dog could like get that understanding yeah you can put a blanket up there if you want um i found that dogs like these because like they're comfy and then also because they're meshed it breathes

Watch at 22:58 ↗

Does my dog have to lie down on place?

Not by the rule as two trainers state it. Place means all four paws on the cot, or no paws on the floor. He can stand, sit, lie down or turn around, and two paws hanging over the edge is fine. Some handlers do ask for a sit or a down on the cot as well. Zeus's trainer says that's up to you: you don't need to 'unless you want him to do that for some reason'. Ask your trainer which version your dog learned so you enforce the same rule. Two more trainers say the same in September owner lessons: no sit and no down are required, and the dog can stand, spin round or lie a different way.

On film

you can break down something like that don't matter as long as all four paws are on the cot then there's that's it that's that's what the command means um so you don't have to say place and then sit or placing them down unless you want him to do that for some reason

Watch at 1:27:32 ↗

so the rule with the place is that the paws can't touch the ground so like she can hold whatever position she wants in there okay as long as four paws are not on the ground so she can hang two paws off but the second they touch the ground she breaks the rules

Watch at 33:17 ↗

nope place sit and so then when she's on here you ask her to sit or down and then that means that she stays on

Watch at 11:38 ↗

you can negatively reinforce the place if they step a paw off because that's the only rule the only rule is all four paws on the place pad there's no there's literally no other rules they don't have to be sitting they don't have to be laying down

Watch at 23:57 ↗

He can stand up, spin around, lay down a different way.

Watch at 38:47 ↗

Can I use place as a time-out?

The trainers disagree on film, so this page doesn't pick a side. In a crate-aggression case the trainer is emphatic that the dog's crate must never be a punishment and that time-outs are 'a very very very very bad idea' in such cases. Callie's family were told to stop using her gated area as a time-out and to treat it as her sanctuary instead. But at Sputnik's go-home, after correcting him for spoiling another dog's play, the trainer put him on the place cot for a short spell, called it a time-out, and let him back out to play. If you use the cot this way, keep it short and separate from the correction, and don't do it with a dog whose problem is his own space. Check with your trainer first.

On film

we're trying to show how you can change his perspective of the the crate right because right now he thinks that the crate is a place where he gets sent for punishment because that's happened to him so we can't send him to the crate for punishment we can't act like these places are punishments for him we don't do time out with the dogs in these cases that's a very very very very bad idea I want to emphasize that

Watch at 9:46 ↗

but now it's like this is my spot this is my sanctuary this is my area if I want to calm down

Watch at 1:09 ↗

That was probably a good length of time. We're like nope. Nope. Now you're you're basically punishing him and then putting him in timeout

Watch at 26:14 ↗

How long should my dog be able to stay on place?

Figures given on film: about ten minutes is one trainer's usual goal for a puppy. About fifteen to twenty minutes is the standard another trainer aims for before a dog goes home, and twenty to forty is a realistic target for the family to build up to. Near the end of a program, long holds are practised with the trainer out of the room. Expect whining as he reaches his current limit. That limit rises with practice. Because place asks for nothing but four paws up, it is the command that can be stretched furthest: one trainer would not hold a sit beyond about five minutes but says place extends to almost any duration, and another that it can scale to hours without being hard on the dog.

On film

i think the longest i've had her stay on place successfully was about 10 minutes or so which is really great that's like a goal time usually that i go for

Watch at 6:02 ↗

like that's kind of the and I will say like I don't train place much anymore because we have like our own people that like just all day like run drills on place but what but we try to keep it about like try to get the dog about 15 to 20 minutes on place before they go home

Watch at 43:06 ↗

This is a very long duration, but she's toward the end of her program, so I'm going to make sure it's really good.

Watch at 38:13 ↗

the reason that that's nice is because that means that place is a command that you can extend out to almost any duration right so like i would not leave a dog in a sit for longer than like five minutes normally

Watch at 39:11 ↗

yeah so that's that's the one that like the duration can scale to like multiple hours and it's not hard on the dog

Watch at 25:52 ↗

What is place actually for?

On film it's for the parts of the day when you need the dog settled and out of the way without shutting him in: the front door, cooking, guests, meals, TV, cleaning. Trainers also describe it as teaching patience, because nothing physically keeps the dog there, and as a secure, relaxing spot for a nervous dog. One trainer treats calm on the cot as practice for calm in the house generally. That last point is his reasoning, not something the film shows.

On film

you know like say let's say you're gonna walk out the front door you know you can tell her place place and she'll go she'll sit there and she'll wait and say you go cook something in the kitchen real quick because you don't want her in the kitchen while you're cooking you know the idea is that that is something that can happen without it being like every two seconds

Watch at 6:23 ↗

there being on the cot is helps them to learn how to be patient because unlike the kennel right or the crate inside the crate they are physically locked in there and they can't come out but here they aren't physically locked in and are able to come out so she makes a decision whether or not she can come off or not

Watch at 9:05 ↗

But I also just want to have him be able to settle and chill on the place cot cuz that can transfer over to all kinds of things and it's very useful for developing calm behavior in the house.

Watch at 2:29 ↗

Will it work away from home?

The trainers take place off the cot and onto whatever is raised: rocks, park benches, store fixtures, a picnic table. One says the cots all feel the same, so the dog learns to find that texture. Another says any elevated object works, whatever it is. Expect the first try on a new object to take some coaxing. Bullet needed several cues to get onto a store fixture and a bench, and his handler thought about using 'up up' to get him on and 'place' to keep him there. Pepper's trainer: a cot or a park bench, anything a little off the ground - but not something on the ground, which is just a down.

On film

So you can place on any elevated object, doesn't matter what it is. And Fiona is very good at place.

Watch at 0:53 ↗

because they all feel the same, roughly, like the texture's the same. When we say place, then they know like, oh, find that texture too. And so like their brains recognize like find that texture so it can move locations where they can still find it.

Watch at 25:52 ↗

I might just tell him up up instead and then tell him place to stay on it

Watch at 30:55 ↗

it's always something that's a little off the ground so like a cot that's a couple inches off or like a park bench or something like that could be a place right um and like and because like it's anything that's not on the ground directly because anything on the ground is then just a command like a down or something like that

Watch at 24:58 ↗

The lesson

The goal

The owner can set up place on a raised surface, state and enforce its one rule consistently, and use it as a calm spot in daily life without turning it into a punishment site.

Learn first

See it done

  • The rule explained to an owner: raised, all four paws, position free; why a mat fails; the trainer's own dog on a picnic table. Watch at 1:25:44 ↗
  • The rule stated as a checkable criterion, then proofed in the family's room with the door, the owner leaving and the trainer running past. Watch at 33:17 ↗
  • A small dog coaxed onto a store fixture: place on a new raised object. Watch at 0:43 ↗
  • Long place-cot hold with the handler out of the room, listening for her to get up. Watch at 14:17 ↗
  • Place explained to a family as a choice, not a lock, with the correction and the praise after release. Watch at 9:05 ↗

The drill

As run on film: put a raised cot where the household actually needs the dog. Cue place and send him up ('up here') until all four paws are on it (watch 04:20; watch 00:46). Ask for nothing else unless you want a position (watch 87:32). If a paw touches the floor before release, mark it and put him back (watch 02:29; watch 90:16). Release with your release word and praise (watch 00:37; watch 09:05). Build duration first, then add distraction one piece at a time: people coming in and out, the door, the handler leaving the room (watch 05:41; watch 33:17; watch 14:17). Then use it in real life: TV, meals, cooking, the front door (watch 25:22; watch 06:23). Away from home, send him onto a bench or rock the same way (watch 30:55).

Watch out for

Check yourself

Your dog is lying on his cot with his front paws hanging over the edge, and one back paw steps onto the floor. Has he broken place, and what do you do?

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