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Reading the dog and the handler · Attitude is the leading indicator

How do I know the training isn't hurting my dog?

A correct position from a flat, sad or scared dog is not a good result: how the dog looks while he works, and straight after he is released, is how the trainers judge whether the training is right.

The answer

Look at the dog, not the position. Across the case files (twelve in the first editions, twenty-five in all) the trainers treat how the dog carries himself while he is being trained as the result that matters, and a correct position from a flat, sad or scared dog as a failure. Kodak's trainer says it on a frightened dog's first walk: he could get obedience out of him today, but it would look 'gross', 'disgusting' and 'sad', and 'the happier your dog looks, that's the proof. The proof's in the pudding.' Drago's trainer calls a good attitude 'one of the main things to cultivate in dog training'. Titan's trainer, Connor, says perfect impulse control in a week is possible but 'not humane', because 'you also have to like take away their personality to do it'. Marvin's trainer has a name for the dog who looks trained because his personality has been flattened: 'generalized suppression'.

What to watch for, as the trainers point it out on film. Good signs: the dog gets 'all hype' or gets the zoomies straight after a command (Bo); he bursts out of position when released (Ace); he stops when you stop and looks up 'like am i doing it right' (Kodak); he rolls and plays at a handover (Drago); she treats obedience as 'a big game' and 'does not see it in any way as punishment' (Pepper). Warning signs: he sinks into a down 'to just suppress' instead of moving into it smoothly, or slides into a sit instead (Bo); he offers sits when nothing was asked, which Drago's trainer calls 'the wrong attitude'; his mouth hangs open on a walk that is not hot, which Kodak's trainer reads as stress, and 'that stress is a barrier'; or the release changes nothing about him.

Two guard rails come with the standard. First, it is not a ban on pressure. In the same breath as the happy-dog line, Kodak's trainer says it 'does not mean that we don't use negative reinforcement ... it just means that there's an order of operations'. Baxter's trainer puts the risk precisely: pressure without plenty of good experience afterwards gives a dog who is 'compliant yay but they're flat'. Second, the reading cuts both ways. Roxy's lead trainer gives owners one question for any correction or treat: 'Does it look like it?' If the dog is delighted while you hold her collar and tell her off, nothing happened; if she ignores the treat, it was not a reward. Her arc treats this as a prompt to watch the dog's immediate response, not as proof that behaviour has changed for good.

The standard is applied to the trainers' own work. Drago's trainer tells the family that in the last five days Drago was 'a little too suppressed' with him and other trainers and looked scared, and that he switched him to a flat collar. Titan's trainer holds a down under heavy distraction and says to the dog, 'I don't want to do that to you.' Baxter's trainer will sometimes let a mistake go 'if their emotional state stays high' and fix it later. Beo's trainer releases a lagging dog early, on a brief correct heel, 'because i want to preserve a good emotional state' (watch 37:30), and Kelton meets the next lag with encouragement instead of pressure (watch 19:22). Kane's trainer checks himself after every correction: he wants the dog to 'recover quickly and run off', and if the effect lingers he plays with the dog and takes 'a hard look at the severity' of what he did (watch 11:02, 11:48).

A wider reading of the session record adds thirteen dogs and a third reason to the two below. Kali's trainer argues that happier reps are faster, not just kinder: three reps the dog is even 'marginally happier' about, with negative reinforcement still in them, count for more - 'it feels like it takes longer but it's faster'. Connor at Cosmo's evaluation puts the cost of boredom the same way: less training gets done, and joyless work 'just becomes like a mean like suppression thing'. The checks themselves get shorter and more frequent: 'Make sure she's not suppressed' between reps (Stormy); 'she still has a great attitude, which is what we want' after a nope (Hattie); 'not seeing like a lot of negative affect he looks happy' (Kelton, with Bandit); and Rocky's family hears the contrast with 'yank and crank' - 'you don't want an obedient dog that's super flat'.

What is said and what is inferred. Three reasons are given on film. Bo's trainer says attitude 'is what makes him able to learn'. He also explains that a release the dog does not really enjoy means 'They learn the down slower'. Kali's trainer gives the third: happier reps count for more. Nobody on film says how flat is too flat. For what to do when the dog's attitude does not come back, the record shows resting him and easing off, and one trainer's two steps when a correction's effect lingers: play and run to lift the dog, then review whether the penalty was too much (watch 11:32, 11:48). Those gaps are real.

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What to do

After each command, look at the dog, not the position. A bounce, a shake-off, bursting out on the release or looking up to check with you are the good signs the trainers point out (watch 00:58; watch 13:40; watch 09:33). Sinking into the down, sitting when you didn't ask, an open mouth on a cool walk, or no change at the release are the warning signs (watch 09:22; watch 15:25; watch 03:14; watch 08:48). After you tell him off, ask 'does it look like it?' (watch 11:33). When the dog looks unhappy, the trainers back off: they rest him and don't drill it (watch 07:29; watch 17:19). If your dog looks flat under your handling, tell your trainer.

What the trainers say

We want a happy-looking dog, ideally. So the happier your dog looks, that's the proof. The proof's in the pudding.

Kelton - the trainer handling Kodak on his first public outing; never reliably named in Kodak's record (titled edit of the vlNc9b51egA walk) · Kodak · Watch at 2:06 ↗

could i get obedience out of it yeah sure i could teach him obedience but how would it look it would look gross it would look disgusting um it would look sad right

Kelton - Kodak's trainer; unnamed · Kodak · Watch at 7:11 ↗

yeah it would be be really, really sad, depressed-looking, forced-looking obedience. And man, we don't want that.

Kelton - Kodak's trainer; unnamed · Kodak · Watch at 7:22 ↗

That does not mean that we don't use negative reinforcement or we don't require them to do things, or that we don't create boundaries or penalize things, it just means that there's an order of operations.

Kelton - Kodak's trainer; unnamed · Kodak · Watch at 2:13 ↗

he has not been sniffing right his mouth has been kind of open um not because he's hot or panting right because it's not that bad out here but uh because he's he's stressed right he's stressed just being out here on a walk and just being near me and just feeling pressure from the leash he is stressed out right um so that stress is a barrier

Kelton - Kodak's trainer; unnamed · Kodak · Watch at 3:14 ↗

one that he's becoming very proficient in the commands. But number two, and and this is actually bigger because this is what makes him able to learn and be proficient in the commands. Notice his attitude even when and if I have to use some negative reinforcement to get him to do something.

a progress clip addressed to the absent owner · Bo · Watch at 0:36 ↗

Good boy. And see, he came and he's got good manners. Sit. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now, watch that. See how he got all hype after he did it right now.

Bo · Watch at 0:58 ↗

A lot of times he actually gets the zooies when I uh after I give him a command. Uh he's super happy about it, right?

Bo · Watch at 1:37 ↗

And And I don't know why he's shaking his head. I did not use the e-collar or anything else. He He did that without any kind of pressure.

Bo · Watch at 1:08 ↗

Yeah, I don't want that. I don't want him to just suppress and go into the down I want him just to go smoothly into the position.

filming himself for the channel · Bo · Watch at 9:22 ↗

We don't want that. I want him to go smoothly there from standing. If I can get one nice rep, then I'll be able to let him go.

Bo · Watch at 10:04 ↗

was that pretty no no it was not it was ugly Ugly, ugly, that's okay. First rep, just a little bit of physical manipulation. Good job.

Bo · Watch at 11:06 ↗

huh, well all of a sudden Bo's mood of Yay, I got released happiness from the down gets messed up and if that gets messed up then what happens? Well They learn the down slower, right? Because the release command wasn't real.

Bo · Watch at 17:00 ↗

you're having a lot of fun with your dog and they they're happy to comply because the uh criteria for success is super clear

Bo · Watch at 12:21 ↗

and when i stopped he stopped and looked up at me like am i doing it right and i confirmed with an okay and tossed the ball for him

Kelton - Kodak's trainer; unnamed · Kodak · Watch at 9:33 ↗

i can improve his drive a little bit which will make the obedience less um i don't want it to look like where where where he's kind of like, as much as I can eliminate that, the better.

Rocko · Watch at 10:10 ↗

Um, essentially, if you want to know, all right, was the dog penalized or not, you need to think uh about only one factor. Does it look like it?

Kelton - the lead trainer at Roxy and Ramsey's go-home lesson · Roxy · Watch at 11:33 ↗

If it does, success. If it does not, it it didn't work. Right. So, if you go, don't you ever do and and Roxy's like, right? while you're holding her by the collar. Yeah, it didn't work at all.

Kelton - the lead trainer · Roxy · Watch at 11:46 ↗

back when I used to train with treats, that would happen to me with some dogs is like I'd be trying to like train them and I give them a treat and they just they I didn't really get and they just they I didn't really get like I wasn't rewarding them with the treat. It it wasn't rewarding for them, right? So, same thing in both directions, right?

Kelton - the lead trainer · Roxy · Watch at 12:27 ↗

Yep, he understood. That's how you know he understood that he was supposed to be in a certain position, namely the heel, is if you say okay and he he sprints out of it. Otherwise, you're probably just working with generalized suppression, which is not what you want.

the trainer handling Ace · Ace (Chihuahua-terrier mix) · Watch at 13:40 ↗

and you see like how he's geared up to go as soon as I say okay he's not like suppressed afterwards

Ace's trainer; unnamed · Ace (Chihuahua-terrier mix) · Watch at 8:19 ↗

if you don't see an excited dog obviously that's gonna be relative depending on the dog right so you might see like ace lake is like boom right but if you don't see at least something some kind of change when you release them then perhaps they don't actually they don't actually know their release command that well right

Ace's trainer; unnamed · Ace (Chihuahua-terrier mix) · Watch at 8:48 ↗

sometimes it actually ends up being the right way to do it because sometimes it's worth doing it the wrong way if or letting something go if their emotional state stays high right because then if you do that then later on you can fix it right once things are clear

the trainer at Baxter's private lesson in the owner's home · Baxter · Watch at 25:13 ↗

having a lot of positive reinforcement after you can end up with a dog that listens they're compliant yay but they're flat yeah they're flat and they're sad right

Baxter's trainer; unnamed · Baxter · Watch at 33:39 ↗

and so this is where the emotional state matters where okay he's never felt the e-collar before right he doesn't know me that well so he can be playing playing playing and then he feels the e-collar or he has to do a command and he goes and then he gets a little less engaged with the play

Baxter's trainer; unnamed · Baxter · Watch at 14:31 ↗

right and so then I try to pay attention to that it's like oh let's see if we can change that emotional state

Baxter's trainer; unnamed · Baxter · Watch at 15:03 ↗

And so really, one of the main things to cultivate in dog training is you wanna see a really good attitude.

Drago · Watch at 6:30 ↗

did you see there how he thought what he needed to be doing was sitting, right? We don't want that, right? That's, that's the wrong, the wrong attitude that I want to develop because he didn't need to come sit to me.

Drago · Watch at 15:25 ↗

Because I don't want to get generalized suppression. That's the opposite of what we want. We want a happy attitude. We want a strong release command where he's like, oh yeah, I get to go now.

Drago · Watch at 18:03 ↗

I'm not feeling too happy about that thing. He's feeling unhappy.

Drago · Watch at 7:02 ↗

So we'll do successive approximations with that, and we'll make it look a little happier, make it look nicer, improve the emotion around it, because obviously he didn't like that very much.

Drago · Watch at 4:07 ↗

boy oh you want to roll you want to roll good boy come on come on so you can see he's a happy boy right um he hasn't lost any of his personality we haven't suppressed him

go-home instructional video for the family · Drago · Watch at 2:22 ↗

to see it i had a little bit of an issue with him only in the last like five days and this was one of the issues that was existing a little bit of an issue with him where he was with me specifically and um and sometimes with a couple of our other trainers he was a little too suppressed

go-home lesson with the family · Drago · Watch at 25:33 ↗

i'll tell you what that is though it's generalized suppression that's all it is so like i and you you can make it look like the dog's trained because they're suppressed

Kelton - the lead trainer at Marvin's go-home lesson; unnamed · Marvin (Giant Schnauzer) · Watch at 23:34 ↗

impulse control just needs more like refining i can't just like i mean you can make a dog having like perfect impulse control in a week but it's also like not humane i'm not like about yeah because you also have to like take away their personality to do it

Connor, Titan's lead trainer, at the first in-program lesson with the owner · Titan · Watch at 15:12 ↗

i just want to show the dog like you're still you you can be you you don't have to like repress anything you just have a job that you have to do and after work you can be you

Connor · Titan · Watch at 15:39 ↗

that buddy I don't want to do that to you

Connor, on a walk with Kelton present · Titan · Watch at 17:18 ↗

so that's why when i got him back in the heel we walked a little bit we stopped and then i released him right because i want to preserve a good emotional state and i don't want to start to lack confidence that he knows where the heel position is

Beo's trainer, narrating a park-trail walk · Beo · Watch at 37:30 ↗

he looked like he just needed like a little bit of reassurance when he went around to the right side again and when he lagged back so instead of pressuring when he lagged back i just um i just encouraged and he took that right away and and found the right spot

Kelton (named on audio at 08:47 of this session) · Beo · Watch at 19:22 ↗

so i try to um as best i can um as i mature as a trainer and get better and better i try to make sure that i um that i never use pressure when i put in courage right

Kelton · Beo · Watch at 19:38 ↗

I always want to see that positive effect especially after I've had to use the e-collar or any other kind of negative reinforcement is that you know they recover quickly and they run off right I don't want to see it stick with them for too long

Kane's trainer, narrating a park walk · Kane · Watch at 11:02 ↗

the second thing that I need to do is I need to take a hard look at the severity and penalty was it too much

the same trainer · Kane · Watch at 11:48 ↗

really smart and she's really motivated and she thinks this is all a big game in her head this is just a game that we play right like i mean she does not see it in any way as punishment to do obedience

Pepper's trainer at her second in-program owner lesson · Pepper · Watch at 11:17 ↗

is down here good job it looks like a happy dog it's a happy dog right there

Apollo's trainer (unnamed) · Apollo (the Sharkie) · Watch at 18:46 ↗

sit there and go right so that's what we want to see when i see him start to act like a dog

Astro's trainer (unnamed) · Astro · Watch at 15:40 ↗

and i'm not seeing like a lot of negative affect he looks happy good boy bandit

Kelton · Bandit · Watch at 11:05 ↗

that's ridiculous why does he still want to play with me hmm why is he such a

Bernie's trainer (unnamed) · Bernie · Watch at 28:01 ↗

like okay yeah he's still the same dog he's still happy and like having a good time yeah

Bernie's trainer (unnamed) · Bernie · Watch at 2:51 ↗

he gets it correct though boom big happy big happy that's essential big happy is essential

Bun's trainer (unnamed) · Bun · Watch at 35:04 ↗

last thing you want to do is bore a dog that is how you get a significantly less amount of

Connor · Cosmo · Watch at 27:49 ↗

getting anything at some point it just becomes like a mean like suppression thing i'm really

Connor · Cosmo · Watch at 28:01 ↗

for this dog yeah um yeah but what i'm interested in is total welfare right i want for her to be

Fiona's trainer (unnamed) · Fiona · Watch at 16:51 ↗

But she still has a great attitude, which is what we want

Hattie's trainer (unnamed) · Hattie · Watch at 0:49 ↗

positive right and they're happy about it even if you use negative reinforcement right which

Kali's trainer (unnamed) · Kali · Watch at 8:53 ↗

so i need to make the heel a little bit more positive in her mind when she hears it

Kali's trainer (unnamed) · Kali · Watch at 12:36 ↗

flat the whole time because you don't want an obedient dog that's super flat you want an

Rocky's trainer (unnamed) · Rocky · Watch at 31:23 ↗

yeah he's very entertaining yeah i think he's still as entertaining as when i first met him

Shadow's trainer (unnamed) · Shadow (Siberian Husky) · Watch at 13:52 ↗

Make sure she's not suppressed.

Stormy's trainer (unnamed) · Stormy · Watch at 30:24 ↗

i don't know how many reps that was but it wasn't very many um and he's having fun still look he's

Thor's trainer (unnamed) · Thor · Watch at 15:34 ↗

How it looks, dog by dog

Kodak

Kodak is where the standard is stated, and the circumstances matter. He is a flight risk, frightened of sounds, people and at first of the trainer himself, on his first outing off the property. The trainer explains to camera why he will not drill him. He could get obedience today; it would look gross, disgusting, sad, depressed and forced; so it waits. Then comes the guard rail: this is not a refusal to use negative reinforcement, boundaries or penalties but 'an order of operations', and exploration on a long line comes first. The same walk supplies the failure sign in its plainest form: a mouth that has been open for most of the walk on a day that is not that hot, no sniffing, and 'that stress is a barrier'. Weeks later, in an evening session, the positive sign arrives. Kodak falls into heel with only a little leash clarification, no e-collar and the ball out of sight on the far side of the handler's body. He stops when the handler stops and looks up 'like am i doing it right'. The trainer answers with 'okay' and throws the ball.

On film

could i get obedience out of it yeah sure i could teach him obedience but how would it look it would look gross it would look disgusting um it would look sad right

Watch at 7:11 ↗

We want a happy-looking dog, ideally. So the happier your dog looks, that's the proof. The proof's in the pudding.

Watch at 2:06 ↗

he has not been sniffing right his mouth has been kind of open um not because he's hot or panting right because it's not that bad out here but uh because he's he's stressed right he's stressed just being out here on a walk and just being near me and just feeling pressure from the leash he is stressed out right um so that stress is a barrier

Watch at 3:14 ↗

and when i stopped he stopped and looked up at me like am i doing it right and i confirmed with an okay and tossed the ball for him

Watch at 9:33 ↗

Rocko

Rocko, Kodak's housemate, is the case where the standard drives a decision that looks unrelated to obedience. The trainer plays hard tug, notes that the quality of the tug was different from last time, and says why he keeps pushing it: more drive will change how the finished obedience looks. He trails off before naming the quality he wants to eliminate. Here the look of the finished work is treated as something you plan for, with play scheduled ahead of the obedience to change it.

On film

i can improve his drive a little bit which will make the obedience less um i don't want it to look like where where where he's kind of like, as much as I can eliminate that, the better.

Watch at 10:10 ↗

Bo

Bo's file turns the standard into a claim about learning. Kelton reports progress to an owner who is not there and lists two things. Proficiency comes first. Attitude when negative reinforcement is used is 'actually bigger', because it is 'what makes him able to learn'. The evidence is on the tape: Bo recalls, sits, is released and goes 'all hype', and often gets the zoomies after a command. In the same minute Kelton guards against over-reading: Bo shakes his head, and Kelton says out loud that the e-collar was not used. A second session applies the standard to a single position. Teaching a down without food, he rejects a down that is a suppression and a slide into a sit, and holds out for 'one nice rep'. Ninety seconds later he takes an ugly first rep of physical manipulation and says 'Good job'. If the handler spends the dog's released happiness on his own convenience, 'They learn the down slower', because the release was not real.

On film

one that he's becoming very proficient in the commands. But number two, and and this is actually bigger because this is what makes him able to learn and be proficient in the commands. Notice his attitude even when and if I have to use some negative reinforcement to get him to do something.

Watch at 0:36 ↗

A lot of times he actually gets the zooies when I uh after I give him a command. Uh he's super happy about it, right?

Watch at 1:37 ↗

Yeah, I don't want that. I don't want him to just suppress and go into the down I want him just to go smoothly into the position.

Watch at 9:22 ↗

huh, well all of a sudden Bo's mood of Yay, I got released happiness from the down gets messed up and if that gets messed up then what happens? Well They learn the down slower, right? Because the release command wasn't real.

Watch at 17:00 ↗

Roxy

Roxy's go-home lesson has the version an owner can take home. The lead trainer reduces the question of whether a penalty worked to 'only one factor. Does it look like it?' His example is deliberately awkward: you hold her collar and tell her never to do it again, she is thrilled, and 'it didn't work at all'. He then applies the same test to rewards, using himself as the example. Back when he trained with treats, a dog would take a treat she did not care about, and that was not a reward. The Roxy arc's second edition narrows the claim. It is a prompt to watch the dog's immediate response instead of assuming your consequence landed. It is not a tested one-factor measure of lasting behaviour change.

On film

Um, essentially, if you want to know, all right, was the dog penalized or not, you need to think uh about only one factor. Does it look like it?

Watch at 11:33 ↗

If it does, success. If it does not, it it didn't work. Right. So, if you go, don't you ever do and and Roxy's like, right? while you're holding her by the collar. Yeah, it didn't work at all.

Watch at 11:46 ↗

back when I used to train with treats, that would happen to me with some dogs is like I'd be trying to like train them and I give them a treat and they just they I didn't really get and they just they I didn't really get like I wasn't rewarding them with the treat. It it wasn't rewarding for them, right? So, same thing in both directions, right?

Watch at 12:27 ↗

Ace (Chihuahua-terrier mix)

On 'okay' a dog who understood the position 'sprints out of it'. Otherwise, the trainer says, 'you're probably just working with generalized suppression'. After a correction on a later outing he points at the same thing: Ace is 'geared up to go' and 'not like suppressed afterwards'. Then he qualifies it himself. Excitement is relative to the dog, and a dog who shows no change on release may simply not know the release word well. When Ace once sits on release instead of taking off, the trainer wonders about barking in the distance and concludes 'he knew he was free'. On this dog the release is a measurement, and the trainer reads it in context rather than as a verdict.

On film

Yep, he understood. That's how you know he understood that he was supposed to be in a certain position, namely the heel, is if you say okay and he he sprints out of it. Otherwise, you're probably just working with generalized suppression, which is not what you want.

Watch at 13:40 ↗

and you see like how he's geared up to go as soon as I say okay he's not like suppressed afterwards

Watch at 8:19 ↗

if you don't see an excited dog obviously that's gonna be relative depending on the dog right so you might see like ace lake is like boom right but if you don't see at least something some kind of change when you release them then perhaps they don't actually they don't actually know their release command that well right

Watch at 8:48 ↗

Well, I guess he knew he was free, so that's good.

Watch at 1:53 ↗

Baxter

Baxter's file has the standard taught to an owner in her own home, first as theory, then live. On the slides the trainer names the failure mode. Negative reinforcement that is too strong, without good experiences straight after it, gives a dog who is 'compliant yay but they're flat'. He says he will sometimes take the technically wrong option, 'letting something go', if the dog's emotional state stays high, and fix it later once things are clear. In the backyard it happens on camera. Baxter is playing, meets the e-collar and a command from a man he barely knows, and becomes 'a little less engaged with the play'. The trainer stops to lift him with loud praise: 'let's see if we can change that emotional state'. After one effortful down he declines a second rep, and says he will wait perhaps ten minutes before the next trial.

On film

having a lot of positive reinforcement after you can end up with a dog that listens they're compliant yay but they're flat yeah they're flat and they're sad right

Watch at 33:39 ↗

sometimes it actually ends up being the right way to do it because sometimes it's worth doing it the wrong way if or letting something go if their emotional state stays high right because then if you do that then later on you can fix it right once things are clear

Watch at 25:13 ↗

and so this is where the emotional state matters where okay he's never felt the e-collar before right he doesn't know me that well so he can be playing playing playing and then he feels the e-collar or he has to do a command and he goes and then he gets a little less engaged with the play

Watch at 14:31 ↗

right and so then I try to pay attention to that it's like oh let's see if we can change that emotional state

Watch at 15:03 ↗

Drago

Drago is the case where the standard is applied to the trainers' own results, and where it catches something. Early on, after a long standoff over a sit, the trainer names a good attitude as one of the main things to cultivate. He refuses to drill the sit fifteen more times, and warns against 'generalized suppression'. He reads a sit offered at liberty as 'the wrong attitude', because nothing was asked. On the next clip he says outright that Drago is 'feeling unhappy' and lets him rest longer. When Drago first reaches a rough down, the plan is to 'make it look a little happier ... improve the emotion around it'. At the handover the two statements sit side by side. The instructional video shows Drago rolling and playing, 'we haven't suppressed him'. At the go-home lesson the trainer tells the family that in the last five days Drago was 'a little too suppressed' with him and with other trainers, looked scared in some videos, and was switched to a flat collar. Whether that resolved is not on film.

On film

And so really, one of the main things to cultivate in dog training is you wanna see a really good attitude.

Watch at 6:30 ↗

did you see there how he thought what he needed to be doing was sitting, right? We don't want that, right? That's, that's the wrong, the wrong attitude that I want to develop because he didn't need to come sit to me.

Watch at 15:25 ↗

So we'll do successive approximations with that, and we'll make it look a little happier, make it look nicer, improve the emotion around it, because obviously he didn't like that very much.

Watch at 4:07 ↗

boy oh you want to roll you want to roll good boy come on come on so you can see he's a happy boy right um he hasn't lost any of his personality we haven't suppressed him

Watch at 2:22 ↗

to see it i had a little bit of an issue with him only in the last like five days and this was one of the issues that was existing a little bit of an issue with him where he was with me specifically and um and sometimes with a couple of our other trainers he was a little too suppressed

Watch at 25:33 ↗

Marvin (Giant Schnauzer)

Marvin's go-home lesson is where the family raises the standard before the trainer does. They say they were worried when they sent him away that he would come back 'this army dog' instead of the family dog he was, and they thank the trainer that he is still a happy boy. The trainer answers with his term for what they feared: 'generalized suppression', a dog who looks trained because he has been suppressed. He adds that a trained dog is not a calm, neutral dog who does nothing, and that he wants Marvin to sniff and to pee on things.

On film

i'll tell you what that is though it's generalized suppression that's all it is so like i and you you can make it look like the dog's trained because they're suppressed

Watch at 23:34 ↗

something we were both worried about when we sent him away was he's such a good family dog yeah um he's fabulous with our daughter and like we were like gosh i hope we don't get back and he's just like this army dog

Watch at 22:36 ↗

Titan

At Titan's first owner lesson Connor sets the limit. He could get perfect impulse control in a week, but it would not be humane, because it takes the dog's personality away. The owner says she can still see Titan's personality in the videos, down to his habit of sitting on your feet. Connor states the aim: the dog has a job, and 'after work you can be you'. Late in the program the other side shows. Titan is fixated on another dog, and Connor holds a down under distraction until Titan gives in, calling it 'forcing him into it'. In the middle of it he tells the dog 'I don't want to do that to you'. Titan's arc files this entry under personality kept and no smoke and mirrors: Connor will not send him home on a performance that only looks trained.

On film

impulse control just needs more like refining i can't just like i mean you can make a dog having like perfect impulse control in a week but it's also like not humane i'm not like about yeah because you also have to like take away their personality to do it

Watch at 15:12 ↗

i just want to show the dog like you're still you you can be you you don't have to like repress anything you just have a job that you have to do and after work you can be you

Watch at 15:39 ↗

so that was forcing him into it even though in the distraction which he really needed

Watch at 15:19 ↗

wanted to know i was just like is he gonna like will he know like i'm not cool with sending him

Watch at 8:38 ↗

Beo

Beo is proofed on heel on two September 2026 walks, and both times the trainer reads the lag as the dog's state rather than as disobedience. On a long, hard run of pace changes Beo starts lagging, as if unsure he is right; the trainer gets him back into heel, walks a few steps, stops and releases, to 'preserve a good emotional state' and keep his confidence that he knows the position. Pushing further, he says, risks a dog who stops enjoying it, and then the criteria have to come way down - so take a quick win and start just below it next rep. The next day Kelton meets another lag with encouragement instead of pressure, Beo finds the spot at once, and Kelton states his rule: never pressure and encouragement together.

On film

so that's why when i got him back in the heel we walked a little bit we stopped and then i released him right because i want to preserve a good emotional state and i don't want to start to lack confidence that he knows where the heel position is

Watch at 37:30 ↗

and that's much less efficient and less enjoyable for the dog and for me so instead you get him in the right position even just momentarily and then end it get him a quick win on that repetition

Watch at 38:21 ↗

he looked like he just needed like a little bit of reassurance when he went around to the right side again and when he lagged back so instead of pressuring when he lagged back i just um i just encouraged and he took that right away and and found the right spot

Watch at 19:22 ↗

so i try to um as best i can um as i mature as a trainer and get better and better i try to make sure that i um that i never use pressure when i put in courage right

Watch at 19:38 ↗

Kane

On a park walk late in Kane's program, after proofing a down with an e-collar correction, the trainer says what he looks for next: the dog recovers quickly and runs off. If the effect lingers - outside a major offence where a longer penalty is part of it - he does two things: plays and runs with the dog to get him feeling good, and takes a hard look at whether the severity of the penalty was too much.

On film

I always want to see that positive effect especially after I've had to use the e-collar or any other kind of negative reinforcement is that you know they recover quickly and they run off right I don't want to see it stick with them for too long

Watch at 11:02 ↗

i need to do two things one i need to do something that can help them help them to recover so we need to play we need to run

Watch at 11:32 ↗

the second thing that I need to do is I need to take a hard look at the severity and penalty was it too much

Watch at 11:48 ↗

Pepper

Pepper's trainer reads her attitude to the family at her second in-program lesson: she is smart and motivated, treats obedience as a big game, and 'does not see it in any way as punishment'. In the backyard part of the same lesson he says he has used that, rather than forcing her into a restricted game, to build her patience in holding positions.

On film

really smart and she's really motivated and she thinks this is all a big game in her head this is just a game that we play right like i mean she does not see it in any way as punishment to do obedience

Watch at 11:17 ↗

i've noticed she sees all of everything i'm doing more as a game so instead of like forcing her more into like a restricted game um i've been having her just kind of like use that intelligence to increase that patience of like holding those positions

Watch at 20:20 ↗

Apollo (the Sharkie)

After a proofing down in heel work the trainer reads the result off the dog, not the position: it looks like a happy dog.

On film

is down here good job it looks like a happy dog it's a happy dog right there

Watch at 18:46 ↗

Astro

In behaviour-modification work the sign the trainer waits for is ordinary dog behaviour: once Astro drinks water and does other things with people around, he is acting like a dog, and only then do commands start.

On film

Now he's doing something normal.

Watch at 15:32 ↗

sit there and go right so that's what we want to see when i see him start to act like a dog

Watch at 15:40 ↗

Bandit

Mid-session, after Bandit comes off leash pressure, Kelton checks the dog's affect as part of the result: not a lot of negative affect, he looks happy.

On film

and i'm not seeing like a lot of negative affect he looks happy good boy bandit

Watch at 11:05 ↗

Bernie

On a walk the trainer answers critics of collars with the dog himself - in a mock voice: 'so shut down', yet he still wants to play - and states the standard as long-term welfare, not momentary negative affect. At handover he checks the family is happy and says Bernie is still the same happy dog, not terrified of everybody.

On film

that's ridiculous why does he still want to play with me hmm why is he such a

Watch at 28:01 ↗

happy boy he's just that good boy good job Bernie we care about long-term

Watch at 28:07 ↗

like okay yeah he's still the same dog he's still happy and like having a good time yeah

Watch at 2:51 ↗

Bun

After a rep taught with negative reinforcement the trainer names the other half as essential: when he gets it correct, big happy - without it, he says, the training will not work.

On film

he gets it correct though boom big happy big happy that's essential big happy is essential

Watch at 35:04 ↗

Cosmo

At Cosmo's evaluation Connor keeps the walk exciting and says why: boring a dog gets less training done, and at some point joyless work just becomes a mean suppression thing he is not willing to do.

On film

last thing you want to do is bore a dog that is how you get a significantly less amount of

Watch at 27:49 ↗

getting anything at some point it just becomes like a mean like suppression thing i'm really

Watch at 28:01 ↗

Fiona

At the go-home lesson, after showing that a low setting held briefly does the job, the trainer states the goal as total welfare: Fiona happy, the owner happy, the dog bringing joy rather than chaos.

On film

for this dog yeah um yeah but what i'm interested in is total welfare right i want for her to be

Watch at 16:51 ↗

happy which is going to be hard to make her not happy um and i want you to be happy right i want

Watch at 17:06 ↗

Hattie

Two Shorts check attitude straight after a correction: after a nope on the down she still has a great attitude, 'which is what we want'; after stopping a duck chase the handler wants her nice and happy and looking at things.

On film

But she still has a great attitude, which is what we want

Watch at 0:49 ↗

her to be nice and happy and go look at stuff good girl good job baby good but she probably

Watch at 0:05 ↗

Kali

The trainer argues that happier reps are the faster route even with negative reinforcement: three reps the dog is even a little happier about count for more, though it feels slower. After a heel that looked stressful, he sets out to make the heel more positive in her mind.

On film

because you if you just get a positive feeling and you only do three reps but it's positive

Watch at 8:47 ↗

positive right and they're happy about it even if you use negative reinforcement right which

Watch at 8:53 ↗

so i need to make the heel a little bit more positive in her mind when she hears it

Watch at 12:36 ↗

Rocky

At an in-program lesson the family hears the contrast: a tap and a ball throw bring the dog's 'move right back', whereas 'yank and crank' gets a dog that listens but is flat - and you do not want an obedient dog that is super flat.

On film

flat the whole time because you don't want an obedient dog that's super flat you want an

Watch at 31:23 ↗

obedient dog that looks you know peppy like like looks like this where they're like having a good

Watch at 31:29 ↗

Shadow (Siberian Husky)

At an in-program lesson the trainer says the husky is still as entertaining as when they met, just more controlled - the last thing he would want is to push a big personality down and suppress it.

On film

yeah he's very entertaining yeah i think he's still as entertaining as when i first met him

Watch at 13:52 ↗

yeah is like to the last thing i'd want to do is have this dog that's like got this big personality

Watch at 14:02 ↗

and then just like push it down and suppress it because even though maybe the dog is good it's

Watch at 14:10 ↗

Stormy

In a private lesson, after a run of leash-guided sits, the trainer checks the dog before asking again: make sure she is not suppressed.

On film

Make sure she's not suppressed.

Watch at 30:24 ↗

Thor

At Thor's first down without any touch or collar, the trainer points to the other half of the result: it took few reps, and he is still having fun.

On film

i don't know how many reps that was but it wasn't very many um and he's having fun still look he's

Watch at 15:34 ↗

Why it works

Three explanations are stated on film, and they are not the same one. (1) Attitude enables learning. Bo's trainer says the attitude under negative reinforcement is 'bigger' than proficiency because 'this is what makes him able to learn' (watch 00:36). In a second session he gives the causal path. The release is paid in the dog's happiness; if the handler spoils that happiness, the release 'wasn't real' and 'They learn the down slower' (watch 17:00). The dog is 'happy to comply because the uh criteria for success is super clear' (12:21). (2) Stress blocks learning. An open mouth on a walk that is not hot is stress, and 'that stress is a barrier' (watch 03:14), so exploration and decompression come before obedience in 'an order of operations' (02:13). (3) Pressure without payoff flattens the dog. Baxter's trainer says that negative reinforcement that is too strong, with no good experiences straight after, yields a dog who is 'compliant yay but they're flat' (watch 33:39). He will trade mechanical correctness for emotional state and fix the mechanics later (25:13). A fourth idea is diagnostic rather than causal. Whether a consequence or reward happened is read off the dog's visible response, not the handler's intention (watch 11:33, 12:27). The release is read the same way: bursting out means understanding, no change means suppression or an unlearned release (watch 13:40; watch 08:48). What is inferred and not stated: that the visible signs predict long-term welfare or reliability. Nobody on film tests the look against later outcomes. Roxy's arc explicitly treats the 'does it look like it' test as a prompt, not a validated measure. And no one gives a threshold for how flat is too flat, beyond the remedies shown: resting the dog, spacing trials, dropping pressure, in Drago's case changing the collar, and for Kane playing to lift the dog and then reviewing the severity of the penalty (watch 11:32, 11:48). Beo's trainer adds an efficiency argument to the welfare one: a dog pushed into not enjoying a behaviour forces the criteria way down, which is 'much less efficient and less enjoyable for the dog and for me' (watch 38:21).

Where the trainers differ

Whether an ugly rep is a failure. The standard says a suppressed or collapsed rep is not the behaviour; the same handler takes an ugly one and praises it.

One view

Refuse it. A down arrived at by suppression, or a slide into a sit, is not the rep being trained, and the handler holds out for one smooth one.

On film

Yeah, I don't want that. I don't want him to just suppress and go into the down I want him just to go smoothly into the position.

Bo · Watch at 9:22 ↗

We don't want that. I want him to go smoothly there from standing. If I can get one nice rep, then I'll be able to let him go.

Bo · Watch at 10:04 ↗

Another view

Take it and pay it. On the first rep of physical manipulation the handler names the rep as ugly and marks it as good work anyway.

On film

was that pretty no no it was not it was ugly Ugly, ugly, that's okay. First rep, just a little bit of physical manipulation. Good job.

Bo · Watch at 11:06 ↗

How to read it

Same handler, same session, same command, about ninety seconds apart. The label he gives it, a first rep of a new method, suggests the bar applies to the finished behaviour and is relaxed while a technique is introduced. Drago's 'successive approximations ... make it look a little happier' (watch 04:07) fits the same reading. Nobody states it as a rule.

How much the dog's emotional state should cost in correctness or pressure.

One view

Protect the state first. Let something go if the dog's emotional state stays high, and fix it later. Stop and lift a dog who is going flat.

On film

sometimes it actually ends up being the right way to do it because sometimes it's worth doing it the wrong way if or letting something go if their emotional state stays high right because then if you do that then later on you can fix it right once things are clear

Baxter · Watch at 25:13 ↗

right and so then I try to pay attention to that it's like oh let's see if we can change that emotional state

Baxter · Watch at 15:03 ↗

so that's why when i got him back in the heel we walked a little bit we stopped and then i released him right because i want to preserve a good emotional state and i don't want to start to lack confidence that he knows where the heel position is

Beo · Watch at 37:30 ↗

the second thing that I need to do is I need to take a hard look at the severity and penalty was it too much

Kane · Watch at 11:48 ↗

Another view

Finish the rep. Once a down is cued under a strong distraction, the handler keeps the pressure on until the dog gives in, and says the dog needed it, while saying he does not want to do it.

On film

so that was forcing him into it even though in the distraction which he really needed

Titan · Watch at 15:19 ↗

that buddy I don't want to do that to you

Titan · Watch at 17:18 ↗

How to read it

Different handlers and different stages: Baxter's first lesson, day one with a new person; Titan near go-home, where the down has to hold.

What a flat release means.

One view

A dog who does not burst out on 'okay' is probably working under generalized suppression.

On film

Yep, he understood. That's how you know he understood that he was supposed to be in a certain position, namely the heel, is if you say okay and he he sprints out of it. Otherwise, you're probably just working with generalized suppression, which is not what you want.

Ace (Chihuahua-terrier mix) · Watch at 13:40 ↗

Another view

A dog who shows no change on release may just not know the release word well, and 'excited' is relative to the dog. A single sit on release can be the environment.

On film

if you don't see an excited dog obviously that's gonna be relative depending on the dog right so you might see like ace lake is like boom right but if you don't see at least something some kind of change when you release them then perhaps they don't actually they don't actually know their release command that well right

Ace (Chihuahua-terrier mix) · Watch at 8:48 ↗

Well, I guess he knew he was free, so that's good.

Ace (Chihuahua-terrier mix) · Watch at 1:53 ↗

How to read it

The same trainer on the same dog gives both readings.

Was the dog suppressed? Drago, handover week.

One view

No. At the go-home instructional video he is shown rolling and playing and 'we haven't suppressed him'.

On film

boy oh you want to roll you want to roll good boy come on come on so you can see he's a happy boy right um he hasn't lost any of his personality we haven't suppressed him

Drago · Watch at 2:22 ↗

Another view

Yes, for a stretch. At the go-home lesson the family is told he was 'a little too suppressed' in the last five days, with the trainer and with other trainers, and was moved to a flat collar.

On film

to see it i had a little bit of an issue with him only in the last like five days and this was one of the issues that was existing a little bit of an issue with him where he was with me specifically and um and sometimes with a couple of our other trainers he was a little too suppressed

Drago · Watch at 25:33 ↗

How to read it

Probably not a contradiction so much as a snapshot and a history: happy on one day after a change of equipment, too suppressed over the preceding days. Drago's arc cannot identify which uploads show the scared dog, and nothing after the handover exists.

Common owner mistakes

  • Grading the position, not the dog. A body in the right shape, arrived at by suppression, is refused as a rep.
    On film

    Yeah, I don't want that. I don't want him to just suppress and go into the down I want him just to go smoothly into the position.

    Bo · Watch at 9:22 ↗
  • Assuming a telling-off landed because you meant it. If she is delighted while you hold her collar, it did not work.
    On film

    If it does, success. If it does not, it it didn't work. Right. So, if you go, don't you ever do and and Roxy's like, right? while you're holding her by the collar. Yeah, it didn't work at all.

    Roxy · Watch at 11:46 ↗
  • Assuming a treat is a reward. A dog who does not care about the food was not rewarded.
    On film

    back when I used to train with treats, that would happen to me with some dogs is like I'd be trying to like train them and I give them a treat and they just they I didn't really get and they just they I didn't really get like I wasn't rewarding them with the treat. It it wasn't rewarding for them, right? So, same thing in both directions, right?

    Roxy · Watch at 12:27 ↗
  • Reading a calm, neutral dog who does nothing as a trained dog. The trainer calls that generalized suppression.
    On film

    i'll tell you what that is though it's generalized suppression that's all it is so like i and you you can make it look like the dog's trained because they're suppressed

    Marvin (Giant Schnauzer) · Watch at 23:34 ↗
  • Keeping the dog in heel for the whole walk. Drago's trainer says the way to get that is to suppress the dog, and that it creates reactivity.
    On film

    What's the point of it, going out on a walk, if you're just going to make him walk here the whole time? The way to get that is you could suppress the heck out of them.

    Drago · Watch at 6:33 ↗
  • Reading an open mouth as heat. On a mild day the trainer reads it as stress, and stress as the barrier.
    On film

    he has not been sniffing right his mouth has been kind of open um not because he's hot or panting right because it's not that bad out here but uh because he's he's stressed right he's stressed just being out here on a walk and just being near me and just feeling pressure from the leash he is stressed out right um so that stress is a barrier

    Kodak · Watch at 3:14 ↗
  • Spending the dog's release on your own convenience, such as dragging him round a pole you could have walked round. It spoils the release and slows the learning.
    On film

    huh, well all of a sudden Bo's mood of Yay, I got released happiness from the down gets messed up and if that gets messed up then what happens? Well They learn the down slower, right? Because the release command wasn't real.

    Bo · Watch at 17:00 ↗

Questions owners ask

How do I know the training isn't breaking my dog's spirit?

Watch how he looks while he works and in the seconds after he is released. The trainers here treat that as the result, not a side effect. Kodak's trainer calls the happier-looking dog 'the proof', and Bo's calls attitude under negative reinforcement 'bigger' than proficiency. The good signs they point to are a bounce or the zoomies after a command, bursting out on the release, and looking up to check with you. The warning signs are sinking into positions, offering sits when nothing was asked, and no change on release. If you see the warning signs, raise them with your trainer. On film, the response to an unhappy dog is to rest him and ease off, not to push.

On film

We want a happy-looking dog, ideally. So the happier your dog looks, that's the proof. The proof's in the pudding.

Kodak · Watch at 2:06 ↗

one that he's becoming very proficient in the commands. But number two, and and this is actually bigger because this is what makes him able to learn and be proficient in the commands. Notice his attitude even when and if I have to use some negative reinforcement to get him to do something.

Bo · Watch at 0:36 ↗

I'm not feeling too happy about that thing. He's feeling unhappy.

Drago · Watch at 7:02 ↗

Does 'we want a happy dog' mean you don't use corrections?

No. The trainer who says the line heads off that reading in the next sentence: negative reinforcement, requirements, boundaries and penalties all stay, and what the standard governs is the order. Baxter's trainer puts the risk the other way round. Pressure without plenty of good experience after it gives a dog who is 'compliant' but 'flat'. The happy dog is not the alternative to pressure; it is the state the pressure is supposed to leave him in.

On film

That does not mean that we don't use negative reinforcement or we don't require them to do things, or that we don't create boundaries or penalize things, it just means that there's an order of operations.

Kodak · Watch at 2:13 ↗

having a lot of positive reinforcement after you can end up with a dog that listens they're compliant yay but they're flat yeah they're flat and they're sad right

Baxter · Watch at 33:39 ↗

Will my dog come back a different dog?

That is the fear the trainers name themselves. Marvin's family said they were afraid of getting back 'this army dog'. The trainer called that outcome generalized suppression, a dog who only looks trained. Titan's trainer, Connor, said perfect impulse control in a week would not be humane because it takes the personality away, and that the aim is a dog with a job who gets to be himself after work. The record also shows the program noticing when it went too far: Drago's trainer told the family he had been too suppressed for a few days and had changed his collar.

On film

i'll tell you what that is though it's generalized suppression that's all it is so like i and you you can make it look like the dog's trained because they're suppressed

Marvin (Giant Schnauzer) · Watch at 23:34 ↗

i just want to show the dog like you're still you you can be you you don't have to like repress anything you just have a job that you have to do and after work you can be you

Titan · Watch at 15:39 ↗

to see it i had a little bit of an issue with him only in the last like five days and this was one of the issues that was existing a little bit of an issue with him where he was with me specifically and um and sometimes with a couple of our other trainers he was a little too suppressed

Drago · Watch at 25:33 ↗

How do I know whether my correction actually worked?

Roxy's trainer gives owners one question: does it look like it? If the dog is delighted while you hold her collar and tell her off, nothing happened. The same goes for treats: a treat she does not care about was not a reward. Treat this as a way of watching the dog's immediate response, not as proof of lasting change. The lesson does not say what to do when the answer is no; ask your trainer.

On film

Um, essentially, if you want to know, all right, was the dog penalized or not, you need to think uh about only one factor. Does it look like it?

Roxy · Watch at 11:33 ↗

back when I used to train with treats, that would happen to me with some dogs is like I'd be trying to like train them and I give them a treat and they just they I didn't really get and they just they I didn't really get like I wasn't rewarding them with the treat. It it wasn't rewarding for them, right? So, same thing in both directions, right?

Roxy · Watch at 12:27 ↗

My dog doesn't get excited when I release him. Is he suppressed?

Possibly, but not necessarily. Ace's trainer says a dog who understood the position sprints out of it on 'okay', and one who doesn't may be working under generalized suppression. The same trainer adds that excitement is relative to the dog and that a dog who shows no change may just not know the release word well. When Ace once sat on release, the trainer put it down to barking in the distance. Bring it to your trainer. What the release means to your dog is a question about your dog.

On film

Yep, he understood. That's how you know he understood that he was supposed to be in a certain position, namely the heel, is if you say okay and he he sprints out of it. Otherwise, you're probably just working with generalized suppression, which is not what you want.

Ace (Chihuahua-terrier mix) · Watch at 13:40 ↗

if you don't see an excited dog obviously that's gonna be relative depending on the dog right so you might see like ace lake is like boom right but if you don't see at least something some kind of change when you release them then perhaps they don't actually they don't actually know their release command that well right

Ace (Chihuahua-terrier mix) · Watch at 8:48 ↗

The lesson

The goal

Footage-reading objective: score a repetition twice, once for the position and once for how the dog looks during and after it, and say which signs on film the trainers point to, without claiming more than the footage shows.

Learn first

See it done

  • The standard stated as the reason for not drilling a frightened dog, with the order-of-operations guard rail attached. Watch at 7:11 ↗
  • Attitude named as bigger than proficiency, then shown: hype after a sit, the zoomies after a release, a head shake explicitly not caused by the collar. Watch at 0:32 ↗
  • A suppressed down and a slide into a sit refused, then an ugly first rep taken and named. Watch at 9:17 ↗
  • The release used as a test of understanding. Watch at 13:40 ↗
  • The owner-facing 'does it look like it' question, applied to corrections and to treats. Watch at 11:33 ↗

The drill

Watch the demonstration passages. For each repetition, record two things separately: whether the position happened, and what the dog did during it and in the seconds after the release. Use only signs named on film: hype or zoomies, bursting out on release, the look up at the handler, sinking or suppressing into a position, sliding into another position, an open mouth without heat, no change at release. Note where the trainer says what caused a sign (Bo's head shake, 'I did not use the e-collar') and where he does not. For any flat release, list both readings the Ace trainer gives. Then write one sentence on what the footage does not establish, for example lasting change or welfare over time. This exercise is for reading footage. It is not a prescription for handling a dog; questions about your own dog go to the trainer responsible for its plan.

Watch out for

  • Scoring the position and not the dog.
  • Treating a single flat release as proof of suppression, when the same trainer also reads it as an unlearned release word.
  • Reading post-release zoomies as the dog not taking it seriously.
  • Attributing a behaviour to a tool the handler says was not used.
  • Treating the immediate response to a correction as proof of lasting behaviour change.

Check yourself

A dog goes into a down on cue, holds it, and on release gets up looking exactly as before. What two explanations do the trainers on film give for that, and what else would you need to see to tell them apart?

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