The answer
By changing what the dog does with the feeling rather than squashing the dog. The trainers are blunt that there are two ways to get a quiet dog. The other is building a complete alternative over the old pattern while the arousal underneath comes down, so the dog stops reaching for the old behaviour. The house approach for a behaviour problem is described as phases: not going in and punishing the behaviour, but changing the dog's emotional state around the thing and making it cooperative.
The hard part is that you cannot tell the two apart by looking at a still dog. A trainer on day one with a nervous dog says it is very easy to make a nervous dog look opened up when in reality you have repressed her; another says that putting a dog in a down addresses the body - she is stationary now - but what is happening inside may not have changed at all. So compliance is refused as the measure. The signs the trainers point to instead are things a checklist would miss: a fearful dog who starts sniffing people and vocalising, a dog whose hackles no longer go up at the dog he used to bark at, a dog who is still goofy, still bouncing, and listens.
They draw the line by degree: a smidgen of repression of a behaviour is acceptable; repression of the personality is not. The quality bar they state to owners is the same dog, just he listens - not a dog who comes home sad.
One case pushes back on the tidy version. Bane's protection training did not take away his fear of strangers; by the trainer's account he is probably still a little afraid, but he learned a different solution. There the emotion stayed and the strategy changed. Bandit's trainer, on the go-home-day walk past a dog park, sets the goal lower and states a limit: with other dogs the program needs neutrality and the ability to stop a behaviour, not friendliness - not every dog can or needs to get there - and "the point of the program is never to change their baseline temperament". Read beside the rest of this page, the target there is the reaction and the dog's control of it, not who the dog is. And one trainer rejects 'manageable' as a word for his own results, because manageable means the dog learned to live with the problem rather than the problem being fixed.
Said on film: the decay prediction, the look-alike problem, the phases, the degree line, 'same dog, just he listens'. Inferred: that the week-or-two timescale is a trainer's prediction, not a measurement, and no footage follows a suppressed dog home to test it.
A wider reading of the session record adds twelve dogs from their session notes. Most strengthen the signs above: a dog who used to be standoffish now seems interested in saying hi (Astro), a lake that frightened a dog on day one is re-tested and he is a lot more relaxed (Bullet), a dog in survival mode has to start acting like a dog - sniffing, exploring, being curious - before he can be trained (Jack), and Piglet's trainer is not satisfied with a heel entry she does sadly. Two add to the limit Bane and Bandit set. Ozzy still does not want to be touched, and not freaking out is counted as the progress.
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What to do
Judge progress by whether your dog is still himself - curious, playful - while choosing differently, not by how still or quiet he is.
On film
himself, uh, we do that on purpose. Cause what I don't want is a dog coming back, like just really suppressed all the time and just kind of sad.
you don't want to hit the e-collar every time they see a dog because what does the dog learn
a week or two after she comes home and the repression goes away what happens the training goes away
What the trainers say
because emotional state change is the key to actually making progress in these kinds of areas not just oh look I can make her sit and make her down
ends because that's a band-aid if you band-aid it over with just like putting her down you are addressing the physical state of her body we're like okay she's stationary now but what's happening in here that's the question
we typically do something like this in a few phases we don't just go in and punish the behavior we try to change their emotional state surrounding the the thing and make it into something that's cooperative and that involves authority and obedience
instead what we're doing is we're changing that to an area where it's like hey dude like we don't need to fight why are we fighting like there's there's nothing to fight about here everything's cool right
so sometimes it does take a little bit longer in the program than we'd like it to but i would rather her just learn the impulse control be very comfortable with it as opposed to like traumatizing or repressing her into the to the impulse control
a week or two after she comes home and the repression goes away what happens the training goes away
smidgen of repression is not bad because it's more just like you're repressing that behavior but then it gets to the point where you're actively like repressing the personality and everything and That's not cool
look i trained her but she's still gonna be a goofy like i don't honestly i i wouldn't want to like make her not goofy you know what i mean i still want them to be them
The big thing with a nervous dog is that it's very easy to make a nervous dog look opened up, when in reality you've repressed them and aren't managing it well. To get a nervous dog truly opened up, you have to not repress at all, because obviously repressing is a form of, you know, closing the dog up.
there's a fine line and we don't ever repress because that means when the dogs go home that they just automatically like go back to their old behavior
trainers turn their dogs into robots. They They repress them for two weeks and then the dog loses it soul. And I'm not about that life.
And if you fix just excitement, over-excitement issues, you shouldn't have to repress at all. You just teach the obedient.
I noticed it's very manageable, right? And I don't like the word manageable cuz that means that the problems aren't really fixed. She just learned how to live with them.
think of it like there's two tracks there is what the body what the physical body of the dog is doing
in sync yeah where the emotional state and the like position of the physical body like match
has to know recall um but i'd rather him go home and not know those things at all if he's capable of coping with those dogs barking without panic
my my thing is like i want the dogs to keep their personality just make them obedient
doesn't try anything it's like that's not actually obedient I'd rather have like okay you got the same dog and they're like like super happy and like hyper and looking at stuff but they don't make those decisions
but not be different in the wrong ways so what i mean by that is like i want it to still be boom the same happy dog and like the same personality and everything like that
instead what we want is same bubble gum everything's the same so she might still have the desire to jump but uh you have the tools to quickly go let's not do that
that's a problem good boy good job buddy and when you don't allow the action that's what gives room for the emotions to change in the first place anyway
But he learned a different solution.
we just need neutrality and we need the ability to stop a behavior but we don't need you know friendly towards all dogs right not not every dog is going to get there um not every dog needs to get there and not every dog can get there
the point of the program is never to change their baseline temperament
with him, he's still in survival mode, where he's constantly looking for threats instead of exploring the world and feeling safe
they can feel however they want but they need to not do those actions
Porque ya eso es el comportamiento y entonces es ahí cuando uno castiga el comportamiento y no el sentimiento.
English meaning (our translation): because that is already the behaviour, and that is when you punish the behaviour and not the feeling.
How it looks, dog by dog
Lola
The case where the distinction is the quality bar for everything, stated on day one before a command is taught. The claim is diagnostic: a nervous dog is easy to make look opened up when she has in fact been repressed, so Lola gets fewer reps and lighter corrections, and even a hint of repression is ruled out. The same trainer, working her housemate Archie, says there is a fine line between working a dog intensely and suppressing it, and that suppressed dogs revert at home.
On film
The big thing with a nervous dog is that it's very easy to make a nervous dog look opened up, when in reality you've repressed them and aren't managing it well.
but the thing is you really can't even do even a hint of it on a dog like her so we're going to fully open her up by being very clear on what we're doing right
she's already like kind of borderline suppressed enough we're trying to like keep her open
there's a fine line between working a dog intensely and suppressing a dog and i made sure that the latter was not happening and that we were just working really hard
Stormie
The argument made twice to one family, in two currencies. At the go-home Connor draws the moral line by degree - a smidgen of repression of a behaviour is fine, repressing the personality is not - and cashes it out: she will still be goofy.
On film
so sometimes it does take a little bit longer in the program than we'd like it to but i would rather her just learn the impulse control be very comfortable with it as opposed to like traumatizing or repressing her into the to the impulse control
a week or two after she comes home and the repression goes away what happens the training goes away
smidgen of repression is not bad because it's more just like you're repressing that behavior but then it gets to the point where you're actively like repressing the personality and everything and That's not cool
so like when you're younger if you're like yeah i got a job and then i realized funds for losers you'd be like oh man that person like lost themselves
Bo
The constructive half. Bo's crate aggression is described as two installed patterns - fight, or make people back off - and the treatment is not to remove them but to layer a complete alternative over them: nobody leaves, obedience is asked for and reinforced in the crate, and then he comes out to play. The trainer states it as the house method: phases that change the emotional state around the thing, not going in and punishing.
On film
we typically do something like this in a few phases we don't just go in and punish the behavior we try to change their emotional state surrounding the the thing and make it into something that's cooperative and that involves authority and obedience
instead what we're doing is we're changing that to an area where it's like hey dude like we don't need to fight why are we fighting like there's there's nothing to fight about here everything's cool right
Sage
The principle in its shortest and sharpest forms, at opposite ends of the program. In a store: emotional state change is the key, not being able to make her sit. At handover: putting her in a down is a band-aid on the body; what is happening inside may not have changed.
On film
because emotional state change is the key to actually making progress in these kinds of areas not just oh look I can make her sit and make her down
ends because that's a band-aid if you band-aid it over with just like putting her down you are addressing the physical state of her body we're like okay she's stationary now but what's happening in here that's the question
Finn
The model rather than the slogan: two tracks, what the body is doing and what the mind is doing, and the aim is the two in sync. The trainer says he has gone too far in both directions, and prefers to build impulse control with encouragement rather than getting the picture fast with the collar and repressing him.
On film
think of it like there's two tracks there is what the body what the physical body of the dog is doing
in sync yeah where the emotional state and the like position of the physical body like match
thing good job good boy let's go because you could go too far in either direction i've done both
Kodak
The trainer puts a price on it by offering to give up the obedience: he would rather Kodak went home not knowing heel or down, as long as he knows recall and can cope with barking dogs without panic. After a bad rep, relief and the ball arrive the moment he finds the right answer - a lesson he calls far beyond obedience: that he can cope with stress.
On film
has to know recall um but i'd rather him go home and not know those things at all if he's capable of coping with those dogs barking without panic
him being in happy town directly after feeling like freaked out teaches him a lesson that is far beyond obedience and more important than obedience and that's that he can cope with stress
Dutchess
The mechanism claim, and a falsifiable one: her bites came out of over-excitement, so fix the over-excitement and there is nothing to repress. The same trainer refuses the word 'manageable' for his own result - it means the problem was lived with, not fixed - while the family and later the marketing settle on exactly that word.
On film
Well, here's the other thing, too, is I haven't, like, I don't repress dogs.
And if you fix just excitement, over-excitement issues, you shouldn't have to repress at all. You just teach the obedient.
I noticed it's very manageable, right? And I don't like the word manageable cuz that means that the problems aren't really fixed. She just learned how to live with them.
Yeah, yeah. She's like manageable now.
Luna
The bluntest version, delivered right after telling the owner not to expect a perfect dog: trainers who repress a dog for two weeks hand back something that has lost its soul. The go-home adds how suppression gets built by accident - hitting the collar every time a dog appears teaches a nervous dog that dogs are what hurt.
On film
Some people assume that when you train the dog, they should just come home and be absolutely perfect and have no issues whatsoever. It's not how dogs work, right? They're not robots.
trainers turn their dogs into robots. They They repress them for two weeks and then the dog loses it soul. And I'm not about that life.
you don't want to hit the e-collar every time they see a dog because what does the dog learn
Dory
A fearful dog whose progress is read from what she offers: starting to sniff people, vocalising more as she gets comfortable. The markers of success in the fear stage are things an obedience checklist would count as problems.
On film
Starting to want to sniff other people. It's always a great sign.
She has started vocalizing a lot more, like, now that she's gotten more comfortable.
Zeus
The physiological evidence, because hackles are not a decision. At the handover the resident dogs have their hackles up; Zeus looks, ignores it, and his hackles stay down - which, the trainer says, is not what he was doing for the first three quarters of the program.
On film
yeah he actually did really good his hackles didn't go up and he just kind of ignored it he looked but he didn't do anything which I will say that's not what he was doing for the first three quarters of the program
Apollo (the Sharkie)
The owner-facing quality bar at a Malinois's go-home: he is still very much himself on purpose; the program does not want a dog coming back suppressed and sad. The same dog, just he listens.
On film
himself, uh, we do that on purpose. Cause what I don't want is a dog coming back, like just really suppressed all the time and just kind of sad. Um, we want the same dog, just he listens.
Bun
Offered to an owner whose friend's dog came back from another program miserable: different in the right ways, not in the wrong ones - the same happy dog, without the crazy stuff.
On film
but not be different in the wrong ways so what i mean by that is like i want it to still be boom the same happy dog and like the same personality and everything like that
Bubba Gum
The jumping fix described against its failure mode: not a sad dog who does nothing for fear of being punished, but the same Bubba Gum with an owner who can say let's not do that, so the habit fades.
On film
instead what we want is same bubble gum everything's the same so she might still have the desire to jump but uh you have the tools to quickly go let's not do that
Deuce
The moral line in another handler's mouth about a very different dog - a big personality who would get visibly frustrated by heel grinding - which makes it a company position rather than one person's phrase.
On film
my my thing is like i want the dogs to keep their personality just make them obedient
when i when i do reply i gotta do it i'm my goal is to not like repress you into this dog that's just like frozen
Bandit
The mechanism from the other side: penalise the action, allow the emotion - and disallowing the action is what gives room for the emotion to change at all. At the owner lesson the same trainer says taking one choice away opens up other acceptable ones. On the go-home day (28 Sep 2026), walking past a dog park, the trainer repeats the split - looking is fine, the reaction is what gets penalised - and then states the program's limit: neutrality and the ability to stop a behaviour, not friendliness to all dogs, and never a change to the dog's baseline temperament. That is recorded under Conflicts as a tension with this page's claim, not resolved.
On film
that's a problem good boy good job buddy and when you don't allow the action that's what gives room for the emotions to change in the first place anyway
that's perfectly fine reaction right um so it helps because it opens up the possibility for them to make other choices because you penalize that choice you took it away
He's just looking. Looking's fine, basically.
the point of the program is never to change their baseline temperament
Bane
The counter-case. A fearful dog who used to hide was given protection training; by the trainer's account he is probably still a little afraid, but his solution changed from hiding to driving the stranger off - and the next job is putting that solution under the owner's control.
On film
He's probably still afraid a little bit.
But he learned a different solution.
Roxy
Why a command is not a pattern change: a dog who obeys every command and then goes straight back to the thing has learned nothing about the thing. The fix is to answer the act itself, so that after a few repetitions the walks become simple.
On film
around you there you go even if they did follow the command every single time but then they went right back to the thing they were doing
instead of saying come first is because I want them to think that running over to that dog is bad. Mhm. Not just that they need to recall.
Astro
At the go-home Kelton reads the change from body language rather than obedience: Astro no longer seems geared up to do anything with anybody, and where he used not to approach and was very standoffish, he now seems interested in saying hi. Kelton still stops short of greetings with children, because of Astro's history.
On film
and like his body language like everything recently he's just doesn't seem like he's geared up to do anything with anybody um like when he walks up to somebody like that he just seems interested now whereas before he one didn't normally approach and he was very standoffish
Bullet
On a later walk the trainer re-tests the lake that frightened Bullet on his first day, to see whether his feeling about it has changed rather than to train him past it, and finds him a lot more relaxed and interested.
On film
go good job buddy i want to see if he has any more interest in the lake than he had last time
might be a little bit more open to it than he was let's go bud come on yep he's a lot more relaxed
Bumblebee
His progress report is given as a change of state, not of commands: his nerves have calmed down and he adapts faster to dogs, people and random things going on around him.
On film
and so his nerves have calmed down he's much more comfortable just with a lot of random things happening
Dolce
For a dog doing defence work, the public test checks the inside as well as the behaviour: the trainer first gets her to open up and sniff, then watches that she is checking things out rather than fixating or becoming overly defensive just because people are around.
On film
She gets excited, she sniffs, she checks things out.
She's going into defense work, but we just want to make sure she's not becoming overly defensive with random scenarios or anything like that.
Jack
On film
get him acting like a dog around me. Because if I can't get him to act like a dog around me, I can't train him.
with him, he's still in survival mode, where he's constantly looking for threats instead of exploring the world and feeling safe
Josephine
The trainer frames her change in terms of emotional systems (he credits a book by Jaak Panksepp): she spent too long in fear and panic, and the aim is to get her seeking system online instead. Leaving a store, he says she is still a little shy, which is common in Corsos, but nothing problematic is going on: she is not reactive or panicking, and her seeking system is online.
On film
There's a rage system, there's a panic system, there's a fear system.
real deal is that there's nothing problematic going on anymore at this point, she's not being reactive or panicking or anything like that
Murphy
The trainer tells an owner what the change looks like in a leash-reactive dog after a clear nope with real consequences and then lots of freedom on a long flexi: the dog stops caring, does not bark, looks around and stays interested in things.
On film
what they're going to do and then i let them make choices all of a sudden they just don't care anymore they'll they won't bark at the dog they'll just like look look around and they're still interested in stuff
Ozzy
Like Bane, the target is the reaction rather than the personality: a dog came right up to Ozzy and he did not panic. He still does not want anyone touching him, and the trainer accepts that - not every dog is a people dog - and counts not freaking out as the progress.
On film
came right up to him he didn't panic so that's good he doesn't want anybody touching him but that's okay that's okay not everybody's a people person not every dog is a people dog
yeah but hey you're not freaking out every time and that's progress
Peque (PK)
The counter-case, on a refresher: the trainer says Peque's problem with dogs is not an emotional issue, so treat-shovelling counter-conditioning accomplishes nothing. She can feel however she wants; she needs to not do the actions, and that needs a choice allowed.
On film
counter-conditioning but the problem the dog has isn't an emotional issue with dogs
they can feel however they want but they need to not do those actions
Piglet
Piglet's trainer holds a compliant command to the same standard: Piglet does the heel entry but looks sad doing it, and he wants her comfortable and happy when she hears it, reflecting her general disposition as a happy dog.
On film
I want her actually to be comfortable and happy when she hears that command.
Sofia
At Sofia's first owner lesson Gemma explains the line to the family in Spanish: it is fine for Sofia to feel angry or sad, but acting on it is the behaviour, and the behaviour is what is punished, not the feeling. She compares it with a person who is not punished for being angry but for hitting someone.
On film
Porque ya eso es el comportamiento y entonces es ahí cuando uno castiga el comportamiento y no el sentimiento.
English meaning (our translation): because that is already the behaviour, and that is when you punish the behaviour and not the feeling.
Why it works
Three explanations are given on film. (1) Repression expires: a behaviour held in place by suppression fades at home and the training with it (Stormie, Archie, Poseidon). (2) Layering: an installed pattern is not removed but outcompeted by a complete alternative sequence, practised in the same place until the old one is no longer reached for (Bo). (3) Fuel: where the problem behaviour is driven by over-arousal, lowering the arousal takes the behaviour's fuel away, so there is nothing left to suppress (Dutchess). A fourth, from the action side: when the action is not allowed, the dog has to choose something else, and that is what gives the emotion room to change (Bandit). What makes this hard to judge is stated too: body and mind are two tracks (Finn), and a stationary body tells you about only one of them (Sage).
On film
a week or two after she comes home and the repression goes away what happens the training goes away
we typically do something like this in a few phases we don't just go in and punish the behavior
And if you fix just excitement, over-excitement issues, you shouldn't have to repress at all.
that's a problem good boy good job buddy and when you don't allow the action that's what gives room for the emotions to change in the first place anyway
think of it like there's two tracks there is what the body what the physical body of the dog is doing
Inferred
The decay timescale is a trainer's prediction; no recording follows a suppressed dog home.
Where the trainers differ
'Manageable' as a result
One view
The trainer rejects the word for his own work: manageable means the dog learned to live with the problem.
On film
I noticed it's very manageable, right? And I don't like the word manageable cuz that means that the problems aren't really fixed.
Another view
At the home visit the same case's result is described as manageable, and the marketing edit uses it.
On film
Yeah, yeah. She's like manageable now.
How much repression is acceptable
One view
In very light doses it is okay - a smidgen, of a behaviour (Connor, Stormie).
On film
smidgen of repression is not bad because it's more just like you're repressing that behavior
Another view
With a nervous dog, not even a hint (Lola).
On film
but the thing is you really can't even do even a hint of it on a dog like her
How to read it
Probably scaled to the dog rather than a disagreement; recorded as stated.
Changing the emotion, or not changing the temperament
One view
The goal with a reactive dog is a change in his emotional state, not just a stationary or compliant body (the trainer at Sage's store field trip; Bandit's own trainer earlier says stopping the action is what gives the emotion room to change).
On film
because emotional state change is the key to actually making progress in these kinds of areas not just oh look I can make her sit and make her down
that's a problem good boy good job buddy and when you don't allow the action that's what gives room for the emotions to change in the first place anyway
Another view
On Bandit's go-home day the program's goal with other dogs is stated as neutrality and the ability to stop a behaviour, and the program is said never to aim at changing the dog's baseline temperament.
On film
we just need neutrality and we need the ability to stop a behavior but we don't need you know friendly towards all dogs right not not every dog is going to get there um not every dog needs to get there and not every dog can get there
the point of the program is never to change their baseline temperament
How to read it
Possibly two different targets rather than a disagreement - the emotional reaction to a trigger versus the dog's underlying temperament (whether he likes other dogs at all) - and Bane's case already shows a fear that stayed while the strategy changed. That reading is inference; the trainer does not draw the distinction on film. Recorded as stated, not resolved.
Common owner mistakes
- Correcting the trigger instead of the act - tapping the collar every time a dog appears - which teaches a nervous dog that dogs are what hurt.
On film
you don't want to hit the e-collar every time they see a dog because what does the dog learn
Luna · Watch at 34:29 ↗ - Using a command as a band-aid: the dog obeys, then goes straight back to the thing, and nothing about the thing has changed.
On film
around you there you go even if they did follow the command every single time but then they went right back to the thing they were doing
Roxy · Watch at 21:36 ↗ - Being the dog's restrainer on every walk, so you are a source of restraint rather than of freedom.
On film
is your role end up being in the walk restrainer restrainer exactly restrainer um and so then you're not a source of freedom you're a source of restraint
Lola · Watch at 30:37 ↗ - Sending a crate-aggressive dog to the crate as punishment or using timeout.
On film
we can't send him to the crate for punishment we can't act like these places are punishments for him
Bo · Watch at 9:56 ↗
Questions owners ask
My dog was calm when he came back from training, then it all fell apart. Why?
That is his stated reason for running longer programs.
On film
a week or two after she comes home and the repression goes away what happens the training goes away
How can I tell a changed dog from a suppressed one?
Not by stillness. The trainers look for the dog being himself - playful, curious, sniffing people, hackles down around dogs he used to react to - and warn that a nervous dog is easy to make look opened up when she has been repressed.
On film
The big thing with a nervous dog is that it's very easy to make a nervous dog look opened up, when in reality you've repressed them and aren't managing it well.
yeah he actually did really good his hackles didn't go up and he just kind of ignored it
Will training take away my dog's personality?
The trainers say that is the line they will not cross. Connor tells one family that a little repression of a behaviour is fine, repressing the personality is not, and that she will still be goofy; another trainer's bar is 'the same dog, just he listens'.
On film
look i trained her but she's still gonna be a goofy like i don't honestly i i wouldn't want to like make her not goofy
himself, uh, we do that on purpose. Cause what I don't want is a dog coming back, like just really suppressed all the time and just kind of sad. Um, we want the same dog, just he listens.
Does my dog have to stop being afraid?
Not necessarily. In Bane's protection case the trainer says he is probably still a little afraid but learned a different solution; in other cases the trainers aim to lower the arousal underneath. The record holds both. Bandit's trainer adds a limit for dog-reactive dogs: the program needs neutrality and the ability to stop a behaviour, not a dog who is friendly with every dog, and it never aims to change his baseline temperament.
On film
But he learned a different solution.
the point of the program is never to change their baseline temperament
The lesson
The goal
The owner can tell a dog who is holding still from a dog who has changed, and knows the signs the trainers use.
Learn first
The drill
As run on film with Bo's crate aggression: the people he used to drive off do not leave when he growls; obedience is asked for inside the crate and reinforced there; then he comes out to play and walk. Repeated with a second handler so the new sequence belongs to more than one person. The alternative is built over the old pattern rather than the old pattern being punished out.
Watch out for
- Measuring success by stillness (Sage 21:37).
- Correcting the trigger rather than the act (Luna 34:29).
- Using the crate or timeout as punishment in a crate-aggression case (Bo 09:56).
Check yourself
Is your dog still himself - curious, playful - while choosing differently? Or just quiet?