The answer
The trainers describe what they deliver in consistent terms, and it is less than a finished dog and more than a list of commands. Clark Kent's trainer, Evan, calls it a two-step process: staff teach the dog, then teach the owners to keep reinforcing what the dog has learned until it is habitual - "the dog's new default personality" - and he tells them plainly that they are no longer just dog owners but dog handlers.
What is bought, in Roxy's trainer's words, is a language: "the big difference between an untrained and a trained dog is you have a language now" - before training you are out there saying please stop; after it you can say what you like and do not like, clearly. Dogs are biological organisms, not computers; they will still make mistakes. Kalypso's file shows a hybrid version of the same deal: private lessons first so she has the basics, then the board-and-train does the hard proofing - recalling her off the most distracting things possible - and then the family is shown how to maintain it. Reaper's file shows the same deal fitted to the dog in front of the trainer. The owners had graded his obedience as good, and the trainer, who says he usually takes those grades with a huge grain of salt, found them "actually pretty accurate"; the only time Reaper blew off a command was when he was reactive. So the program's two priorities were one job: "he needs his commands proofed in circumstances when he blows them off, which is when he's reactive. And then he needs to stop being reactive."
The finish line is set in the family's future. Luna's trainer says it three times: the training should look good when she comes home, and look much better in a year or two, because by then the family has been reinforcing it; he uses the analogy of a musician in their twenties against the same musician in their forties. Oscar's trainer gives the same forecast at handover - his recall 'should get better not worse but that's going to be dependent on you guys' (watch 09:45) - and Max's gives the division of labour as engine against oil change: the family need not become expert trainers, 'otherwise why hire us in the first place', only use the commands properly in daily life (watch 08:17). Dutchess's trainer compares a promise of a finished dog to promising a five-year-old will not be excited. The scope is stated both ways: Roxy's household routine has to be built at home, by the family, because she now understands the language; a name-discrimination exercise is work in progress, not a promise. And quality has two tracks - what the body is doing and how the dog feels - with the finished behaviour where both match. Kelton (Reaper's trainer) states the end result in the owners' terms, as a forecast from what he has seen so far rather than a promise: walks at parks and on trails, even into a store, trusting that he will be neutral.
Said on film: all of the above. Inferred: that these statements add up to a single house account of what is sold; they come from at least five handlers over half a year.
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What to do
Expect a dog who knows the words and a lot of practice ahead. Your job changes from owning the dog to handling him: use the same words, in the same way, across ordinary days, so what was taught becomes his default. Build the home routines yourself - the trainer cannot do those for you. Expect mistakes; the difference now is that you have a way to tell him. And judge the result a year from now, not on the first week.
What the trainers say
it's like promising that a five-year-old isn't going to be excited it's like i mean if they're having a good day maybe but like if not versus the more training that the kid gets right eventually it's solid
throughout this it's not like a it's not working it's just like how can I make everything as smooth as possible before she goes home which is relatively soon
Basically, we're trying to, you know, training dogs with us is a two-step process.
Step two, we hand it back to its owners, and we teach the owners how to continue reinforcing the things that the dog has already learned so they become habitual.
So that way they become, you know, second nature, and it's the dog's new default personality.
please be patient with yourself. You have always been a dog owner up to this point, but now you're going to be a dog handler. And those are two very different responsibilities.
and that's why like with the hybrid um that's why we space it that way so that when by the time she
the most distracting possible and like recall her off of that right start proofing that um we do
and we train you to train them right with our boarding trains it's a little different we have a little more time to get to know them
And so, dog training isn't about programming like a computer, because they're biological organisms. They're going to do dumb things. They're going to make mistakes.
the big difference between an untrained and a trained dog is you have a language now. You can communicate with the dog, and you can take things that you like or that you don't like and communicate that clearly to the dog whereas before training you're just out there like please like stop doing that
that's the most important thing, right? You guys don't need to become professional dog trainers. that's unnecessary right otherwise why hire me but you do need to have a good like solid understanding of how to maintain the training
it's not something I can really do for you in my in my context. It's something that will have to be done here with you guys. Yeah. But you have the tools to do it cuz she understands the language now.
working on like getting them to distinguish like commands between like hearing their name first right not promising that that will be done but I am working on it because I think that it is a useful skill although it is not included right
the training funny enough it should look good when they come home but in the grand scheme of things it should look way more messy than two years down the road right because you've been reinforcing it for two years it should look like really tight
right let me slow down so which again the training that we provide for the dogs looks good when they go home but truthfully it should look twice as better or twice as better twice as good
you think of it like there's two tracks there is what the body what the physical body of the dog is doing
where the emotional state and the like position of the physical body like match where where they're um where they're in both a positive mental state and also doing the correct thing
it was actually pretty accurate like his obedience was already pretty darn good right it was not bad at all across the things that he knew
the only thing that made him break obedience or not recall or not do things was reactive reactivity towards things that's the only time he blew off commands
So then the two things that were the biggest priorities for the program are kind of the same thing, right?
Which is like, okay, well, he needs his commands proofed in circumstances when he blows them off, which is when he's reactive. And then he needs to stop being reactive. So you can kind of address both at the same time.
like the end result based on everything that I've seen so far, um, I don't see any reason that you won't be able to take him on walks at parks and in trails or even in the store. Um, and trust that he will be neutral.
let's have the you see your dog lesson and we'll just go over basic training concepts and how how the program works and how you can maintain it and use it
an expert dog trainer now yeah yeah that's not going to happen right otherwise why hire us in the first place right yeah instead it's more like like changing the oil
How it looks, dog by dog
Dutchess
Where the program is described with a shape on it. About two weeks in she knew every command, some only part of the time, and everything after that is reinforcement in random scenarios. Her late sessions are named as smoothing, not repair - how to make everything as smooth as possible before she goes home. And the limit on promises is put as an analogy: promising a finished dog is like promising a five-year-old won't be excited. The two-week and percentage figures are the trainer's account of this dog, not a timetable for all dogs.
On film
throughout this it's not like a it's not working it's just like how can I make everything as smooth as possible before she goes home which is relatively soon
it's like promising that a five-year-old isn't going to be excited it's like i mean if they're having a good day maybe but like if not versus the more training that the kid gets right eventually it's solid
Clark Kent
The two-step model, said to the owners through the camera in a store: staff teach commands and behaviour modification; then hand the dog back and teach the owners to keep reinforcing until it is habitual - the dog's new default personality. Understanding a word is not the same as doing it every time, and closing that gap is proofing, which takes time with the owner. At the recorded go-home lesson Evan tells the owners they are becoming handlers, not just owners, and to be patient with themselves.
On film
Step two, we hand it back to its owners, and we teach the owners how to continue reinforcing the things that the dog has already learned so they become habitual.
So that way they become, you know, second nature, and it's the dog's new default personality.
please be patient with yourself. You have always been a dog owner up to this point, but now you're going to be a dog handler. And those are two very different responsibilities.
Kalypso
The hybrid, spelled out. Private lessons first, so that by the time she comes to the trainer she has the basics and understands each command; then the board-and-train does the hard proofing - recalling her off the most distracting thing possible - and then the family is shown how to maintain it. A substitute trainer at an earlier lesson draws the same line from the other side: in lessons we train you to train them; board-and-train gives staff time to get to know the dog.
On film
and that's why like with the hybrid um that's why we space it that way so that when by the time she
the most distracting possible and like recall her off of that right start proofing that um we do
and we train you to train them right with our boarding trains it's a little different we have a little more time to get to know them
Roxy
Where the deliverable is named positively and the limits named honestly in the same minute. What the family has is a language - before training you are out there saying please stop; now you can say what you like and do not like, clearly - and dogs are organisms, not computers, so mistakes continue. The family does not need to become trainers but must understand maintenance. The morning routine has to be built at home by them, because the trainer's context cannot reproduce it; they have the tools because she understands the language. A name-discrimination exercise is described as work in progress, not included and not promised.
On film
the big difference between an untrained and a trained dog is you have a language now.
And so, dog training isn't about programming like a computer, because they're biological organisms. They're going to do dumb things. They're going to make mistakes.
it's not something I can really do for you in my in my context. It's something that will have to be done here with you guys. Yeah. But you have the tools to do it cuz she understands the language now.
working on like getting them to distinguish like commands between like hearing their name first right not promising that that will be done but I am working on it because I think that it is a useful skill although it is not included right
Luna
The finish line set in the family's future, said three times in nine days: the training should look good when she comes home and considerably better a year or two later, because the family will have been reinforcing it. The musician analogy is attached: good in your twenties, a monster on the instrument in your forties.
On film
the training funny enough it should look good when they come home but in the grand scheme of things it should look way more messy than two years down the road right because you've been reinforcing it for two years it should look like really tight
up it will get even tighter like and I say like the training should look good when they come home however if I come back here a year from now it should look look better than the four weeks she was with me.
early 20s but when they're in their 40s they've had all this time of practicing this advanced repertoire and going crazy that like they should be significantly better and frankly like a monster on whatever instrument they're playing
Finn
The quality bar: two tracks, what the body is doing and what the dog feels, and the finished behaviour is where they match.
On film
you think of it like there's two tracks there is what the body what the physical body of the dog is doing
where the emotional state and the like position of the physical body like match where where they're um where they're in both a positive mental state and also doing the correct thing
because you could go too far in either direction i've done both
Reaper
The deliverable fitted to the intake. Asked what the plan is from here, Kelton (Reaper's trainer) answers from the intake: the owners had marked his obedience as good and reliable, and although history has taught him to be very sceptical of those grades, these were accurate. The only time Reaper blew off a command was when he was reactive, so the two biggest priorities - proofing the commands where they broke, and ending the reactivity - were the same thing and were worked together. He describes the lesson itself as part of what is delivered: a first lesson where the owners see their dog and go over the basic concepts, how the program works and how to maintain it. And he gives the end result as a forecast from what he has seen so far, not a promise: walks at parks and on trails, even into a store, trusting that he will be neutral. Reaper was still in the program when this was filmed.
On film
it was actually pretty accurate like his obedience was already pretty darn good right it was not bad at all across the things that he knew
the only thing that made him break obedience or not recall or not do things was reactive reactivity towards things that's the only time he blew off commands
Which is like, okay, well, he needs his commands proofed in circumstances when he blows them off, which is when he's reactive. And then he needs to stop being reactive. So you can kind of address both at the same time.
let's have the you see your dog lesson and we'll just go over basic training concepts and how how the program works and how you can maintain it and use it
like the end result based on everything that I've seen so far, um, I don't see any reason that you won't be able to take him on walks at parks and in trails or even in the store. Um, and trust that he will be neutral.
Max (Goldendoodle)
The division of labour, as Max's trainer puts it to the family: a new engine needs an expert, an oil change doesn't. The owners are not expected to become expert trainers - 'otherwise why hire us in the first place' - or to run drills; they need a few basic things understood and the commands used properly in daily life, which keeps them from going away, like keeping up a muscle.
On film
to i can change it so it's a similar thing like that where the maintenance isn't you need to be
an expert dog trainer now yeah yeah that's not going to happen right otherwise why hire us in
to do is use it properly if you know how to use it properly it will never go away because as long
Oscar
At Oscar's handover the trainer calls his recall pretty strong but says the family will have to maintain it: what they take home is not as good as it will be for the rest of his life, and it should get better, not worse - which depends on them. He then shows a harder recall test, away from the owners.
On film
second thing is like okay we did do the recall right so his recall command is pretty strong
better not worse but that's going to be dependent on you guys right so to improve his recall and
Why it works
The staff can install understanding and begin proofing; only the family's repetition over months turns it into the dog's default (watch 07:33), which is why the result should improve after handover rather than decay (watch 35:21). Some behaviours depend on a context only the home supplies, so they cannot be done by the trainer (watch 46:37). The shared language is what lets the family keep reinforcing: the dog understands the words and how pressure and release work (watch 33:01). Quality is judged on two tracks, body and feeling (watch 19:44; watch 08:45). Where a dog already knows the words, what is left is the context in which they break, and for Reaper that context was the presenting problem itself (watch 67:20). Inferred: that the improvement-after-handover claim holds; it is an expectation, and no one- or two-year follow-up is on film.
Where the trainers differ
Is the late stage smoothing, or where the real work happens?
One view
Smoothing: two weeks installs the vocabulary; later sessions are not repair.
On film
throughout this it's not like a it's not working it's just like how can I make everything as smooth as possible before she goes home which is relatively soon
Another view
The hard work: proofing against the most distracting things is what the board-and-train exists for.
On film
the most distracting possible and like recall her off of that right start proofing that um we do
Which is like, okay, well, he needs his commands proofed in circumstances when he blows them off, which is when he's reactive. And then he needs to stop being reactive. So you can kind of address both at the same time.
How to read it
Compatible if 'smoothing' means the dog already knows the words; but a family hearing both could expect different things of the last weeks.
Who finishes the dog?
One view
The family: reinforcement at home is what makes it the dog's default.
On film
So that way they become, you know, second nature, and it's the dog's new default personality.
Another view
The program: proofing is done during the board-and-train, then the family is shown how to maintain it.
On film
the most distracting possible and like recall her off of that right start proofing that um we do
How to read it
Different emphasis rather than contradiction; it matters for how a family is briefed.
Common owner mistakes
- Expecting a machine. Dogs will still make mistakes; what changes is that you can now tell them.
On film
And so, dog training isn't about programming like a computer, because they're biological organisms. They're going to do dumb things. They're going to make mistakes.
Roxy · Watch at 33:24 ↗ - Staying an owner instead of becoming a handler - and being impatient with yourself while you learn.
On film
please be patient with yourself. You have always been a dog owner up to this point, but now you're going to be a dog handler. And those are two very different responsibilities.
Clark Kent · Watch at 23:36 ↗ - Waiting for the trainer to fix a home routine only the family can build.
On film
it's not something I can really do for you in my in my context. It's something that will have to be done here with you guys.
Roxy · Watch at 46:37 ↗ - Judging the program by week one at home instead of a year on.
On film
up it will get even tighter like and I say like the training should look good when they come home however if I come back here a year from now it should look look better than the four weeks she was with me.
Luna · Watch at 14:20 ↗ - Accepting a position the body holds while the dog is plainly not calm.
On film
so ultimately you have kind of two different tracks that you're looking along one track is like what is their physical body doing right
Roxy · Watch at 8:45 ↗
Questions owners ask
Will my dog be perfectly trained when he comes home?
No, and the trainers say so. Dutchess's trainer compares that promise to promising a five-year-old won't be excited. What comes home is a dog who knows the words and a family who knows how to use them; reliability comes from repetition in real life.
On film
it's like promising that a five-year-old isn't going to be excited it's like i mean if they're having a good day maybe but like if not versus the more training that the kid gets right eventually it's solid
What am I actually paying for, then?
A shared language and the skill to use it. Roxy's trainer: before training you are saying please stop; after it you can tell the dog clearly what you like and do not like. Clark Kent's trainer: staff teach the dog, then teach you to keep reinforcing until it is his default.
On film
the big difference between an untrained and a trained dog is you have a language now.
Step two, we hand it back to its owners, and we teach the owners how to continue reinforcing the things that the dog has already learned so they become habitual.
Will it get worse after he comes home?
The trainers expect the opposite if the family keeps practising: Luna's trainer says it should look much better in a year or two than on the day she comes home. That is an expectation; no long-term follow-up is on film.
On film
the training funny enough it should look good when they come home but in the grand scheme of things it should look way more messy than two years down the road right because you've been reinforcing it for two years it should look like really tight
Why do private lessons first and then a board-and-train?
In Kalypso's hybrid, lessons give the dog and family the basics; the board-and-train then does the hard proofing against the most distracting situations; then the family is shown how to maintain it.
On film
and that's why like with the hybrid um that's why we space it that way so that when by the time she
Do I need to become a dog trainer?
No. Roxy's trainer: you do not need to become professional trainers, but you do need a solid understanding of how to maintain the training.
On film
that's the most important thing, right? You guys don't need to become professional dog trainers.
My dog already knows his commands. What would a program add?
Proofing where the commands break, and the problem that breaks them. Kelton (Reaper's trainer) found the owners' obedience grades accurate; the only time Reaper blew off a command was when he was reactive, so proofing the commands in exactly those moments and ending the reactivity were treated as one job, worked together.
On film
the only thing that made him break obedience or not recall or not do things was reactive reactivity towards things that's the only time he blew off commands
Which is like, okay, well, he needs his commands proofed in circumstances when he blows them off, which is when he's reactive. And then he needs to stop being reactive. So you can kind of address both at the same time.